Moderators Casino Posted February 18 Moderators Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’d agree. But think Forrester is better player. Yeah, probably is, but would he have fancied the 22? Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 18 Moderators Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Airedale has come on a lot recently A real terrier Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 18 Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Yeah, probably is, but would he have fancied the 22? I’d think he’d of been ok with him, he’s not only good footballer but gritty. Quote
Arrested development Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I've watched back the goals and all three can be put down to collective poor defending all round, but I'm not having that Coleman doesn't get most of the blame for the second. Last couple of games he's made some good saves, and he kept us in at at Northampton with a great save before half time. That second goal though yesterday was rubbish. It's a shot from the edge of the box by a centre half, right at him. He didn't even need to dive. He has to save them. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 18 Moderators Posted February 18 Just now, Arrested development said: I've watched back the goals and all three can be put down to collective poor defending all round, but I'm not having that Coleman doesn't get most of the blame for the second. Last couple of games he's made some good saves, and he kept us in at at Northampton with a great save before half time. That second goal though yesterday was rubbish. It's a shot from the edge of the box by a centre half, right at him. He didn't even need to dive. He has to save them. I need to see another angle before i judge And thats if we ignore the bollocks leading up to the shot Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 18 Posted February 18 24 minutes ago, Zico said: Aye, definitely our most shit house defender, and doesn't take any shit either, I like him Me too, good character and (importantly) left footed. Trouble is I like all our CBs and only 3 can play (2 plus Santos). I'd be happy with him at LWB competing with Ashworth (both more effective than Williams IMO). Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted February 18 Posted February 18 13 minutes ago, Casino said: I need to see another angle before i judge And thats if we ignore the bollocks leading up to the shot We are too static at times at the back and need to attack the ball more Quote
captainmed Posted February 18 Posted February 18 24 minutes ago, Arrested development said: I've watched back the goals and all three can be put down to collective poor defending all round, but I'm not having that Coleman doesn't get most of the blame for the second. Last couple of games he's made some good saves, and he kept us in at at Northampton with a great save before half time. That second goal though yesterday was rubbish. It's a shot from the edge of the box by a centre half, right at him. He didn't even need to dive. He has to save them. He was at fault - no doubt about that. His laboured and indecisive distribution cost us lots of time throughout the game too. That said, he saved us a point with a good save (which we were right in line with) very late on. Baxter is a massive miss though. Quote
paulhanley Posted February 18 Posted February 18 42 minutes ago, Casino said: I need to see another angle before i judge And thats if we ignore the bollocks leading up to the shot I can't be 100 per cent sure that didn't get a bit of a deflection on the way through. If it did then that's his excuse. Quote
Eddie Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Other than Santos, you can make a case for any of the other options to be in the back 3, they all have better / worse parts to their game but a lot of it comes down to form. I think Jones has proved just how important he is and so he goes in the guaranteed starter category with Santos for me - that leaves one spot. Toal at his best probably takes it, but I don’t think he’s at his best at the moment. Maybe injury, maybe form - he just looks a bit hesitant, like he’s doubting himself. Forrester hasn’t put a foot wrong. Less experience and probably less comfortable on the left of the 3 but for me, if he’s fit enough then I think he plays alongside Santos and Jones at the mo. Iredale I change my mind on all the time. Ultimately I think he’s good cover for left wing back and left centre back but I don’t think he’s good enough to take the starting spot with a fully fit squad. Taylor is clearly useful for his height, and Evatt bringing him on against Wycombe because Vokes was getting the better of Toal shows his use to us, but for me he’s central or bench rather than an option next to Santos. In summary, hurry up back Rico! Quote
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted February 18 Site Supporter Posted February 18 1 hour ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Airedale has come on a lot recently and shouldn’t be dropped IMO - we need Santos back before any of present back three are rested 1 hour ago, Casino said: A real terrier A dogged defender Quote
Whitesince63 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 49 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Me too, good character and (importantly) left footed. Trouble is I like all our CBs and only 3 can play (2 plus Santos). I'd be happy with him at LWB competing with Ashworth (both more effective than Williams IMO). We haven’t seen a lot of him yet but personally on first impressions I’d have Ogbeta in at LWB before any of Iredale, Williams or Ashworth. Quote
onefinfrandsen Posted February 18 Posted February 18 12 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: We haven’t seen a lot of him yet but personally on first impressions I’d have Ogbeta in at LWB before any of Iredale, Williams or Ashworth. Ogbeta fits the evatt style of wing back, probably not up to speed as yet. Could be real asset towards the end of the season. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 18 Posted February 18 15 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: We haven’t seen a lot of him yet but personally on first impressions I’d have Ogbeta in at LWB before any of Iredale, Williams or Ashworth. Was he injured yesterday? Wasn’t on bench. Quote
TrickyTrotter Posted February 18 Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Was he injured yesterday? Wasn’t on bench. No, think same as at Northampton. 19th man and will start Tuesday. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 18 Moderators Posted February 18 27 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: We haven’t seen a lot of him yet but personally on first impressions I’d have Ogbeta in at LWB before any of Iredale, Williams or Ashworth. I suspect that in evatts mind, ashworth is first choice LWB i agree Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 18 Moderators Posted February 18 1 minute ago, TrickyTrotter said: No, think same as at Northampton. 19th man and will start Tuesday. 3 defenders on the bench yesterday, i think? Quote
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted February 18 Site Supporter Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Casino said: 3 defenders on the bench yesterday, i think? Forester, Ramsey and Taylor Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Just now, gonzo said: When is Randal fit? Needs to get fit so we can get shut. Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 18 Site Supporter Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Needs to get fit so we can get shut. Give over. Quote
radcliffe white Posted February 18 Posted February 18 57 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Needs to get fit so we can get shut. Aye he’s not the best, Ashworth much better and isn’t afraid to tackle Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 18 Posted February 18 47 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Aye he’s not the best, Ashworth much better and isn’t afraid to tackle All the more puzzling he's yet to start a league game when Williams has been available, I suspect he'll still be IEs choice when fit. Quote
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted February 18 Site Supporter Posted February 18 Williams needs to learn how to tackle, but he's good at going forward. For me Iredale's best option at Left Wing back, has a bit of steel about him too which we lack as a team. Somehow he gets away with it too. However Evatt has brought Williams in for a reason, and with him being solely wing back and Iredale a bit more flexible, I'm assuming he's his first choice. Some of Evatt's signings have been baffling at best.. Best back line would be Cogley, Jones, Santos, Johnston, Iredale. Toal doesn't seem to be developing much as a player atm. As we're back to back matches though, most players are going to struggle to get some decent training/practice in as a team. Thinking last night Baxter Williams, Johnston, Santos, Forrester(Just coming back) Charles, Ndudulu, Carty, Nearly a full team injured atm, plus any that are carrying injuries we dont know about.. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted February 18 Moderators Posted February 18 31 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: All the more puzzling he's yet to start a league game when Williams has been available, I suspect he'll still be IEs choice when fit. He was injured himself for a while then had to wait for his chance, though he did start ahead of Williams at Orient Quote
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