Moderators Zico Posted March 21 Moderators Share Posted March 21 59 minutes ago, bolton va va said: West Ham's support has changed markedly, a few years back, they were largely from rough, east end areas of London but now they seem to mostly be Essex gobshites..........& that wanky crossed arms thing they do now, the old school lot didn't do that. that's because they all moved out the east end into essex and all the ethnic minorities moved into the east end to replace them got to say though, I think Forest are argubaly bigger than West Ham - certainly in honours - top flight presence is about the same, whislt West Ham do them on crowds, but only since they moved to the new ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, bolton va va said: West Ham's support has changed markedly, a few years back, they were largely from rough, east end areas of London but now they seem to mostly be Essex gobshites..........& that wanky crossed arms thing they do now, the old school lot didn't do that. If you look at KUMB, posts suggest half the crowd are tourists. Literally tourists. QPR are a local team for local people - used to live a few miles away in Acton. Chelsea fans came in from miles away - not surprising considering their location as most Fulham Road occupants who went there were rich and did it the rich way. The standard fans travelled in. And then in not necessarily great numbers. Wasn't there 17k or summat on to witness Sasa's wonder goal against them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 23 hours ago, gonzo said: Think we are in the most populated with football club area in world football. Aye, in addition to the 19 mentioned Barrow are also in the old Lancashire boundary and Southport were in the third tier for 72-73 after promotion in a year that saw NW teams win all 4 divisions (them, us, Burnley and Liverpool). The combined size of Leicestershire, Notts and Derbyshire equaled that of Lancashire. But all they've had post war is Leics, Forest and Derby as major players, County a level down and then Chesterfield and Mansfield as also rans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Leicester you say..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWFC_LOVE Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Bigger than Leicester up until they won the league. Reckon they’ve jumped several places in the last decade, above the likes of us, Rovers, Sheff Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 21 Moderators Share Posted March 21 7 minutes ago, gonzo said: Leicester you say..... Level pegging prior to them winning the PL and FA cup They did alright in the league cup in the 90s mind, 3 finals and 2 wins in 4 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Like Ipswich & brum better supported than us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 13 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Like Ipswich & brum better supported than us Are they though? In the grand scheme of things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: Are they though? In the grand scheme of things? For me it’s about the now not what a club won 100 years ago etc Ipswich & Leicester away support has been phenomenal for years we could only dream of taking some of their numbers these are the types of clubs who wouldn’t not sell out for semi finals & finals, brum are a funny one but when it matters can turn out with the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Considering where we've been and where we are I reckon our numbers in past 10 years stack up to most. Better numbers than latter stages of Prem. Reckon folk will view us as pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, gonzo said: Considering where we've been and where we are I reckon our numbers in past 10 years stack up to most. Better numbers than latter stages of Prem. Reckon folk will view us as pretty decent. We are but imo others are a notch higher and do it consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, SatanGreavsie said: If you look at KUMB, posts suggest half the crowd are tourists. Literally tourists. QPR are a local team for local people - used to live a few miles away in Acton. Chelsea fans came in from miles away - not surprising considering their location as most Fulham Road occupants who went there were rich and did it the rich way. The standard fans travelled in. And then in not necessarily great numbers. Wasn't there 17k or summat on to witness Sasa's wonder goal against them? The whole getup of London clubs and where their fans come from etc is just beyond me. Especially when we’ve had a few away games in recent months where Midlands stations have been mobbed with Arsenal and Spurs fans. Coming back from Luton and there was a train rammed with West Ham fans coming out of St Pancras that didn’t have its first stop until somewhere daft like Grantham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The crowd factor has been massively swayed by massive population increase with massive wealth increase in the south east and London in particular. There's just loads of people there with a lot of disposable income to watch football, any football, doesn't matter who. I've sat in the "neutral stand" at Fulham before. Absolutely packed with people just looking for something to do on a Saturday. Doesn't make those clubs massive now, but over time these massive crowds will slowly filter through to more money and better chances of being in the premier league and winning stuff, and therefore being massive in this debate in 30 years time. We're fighting a losing battle on demographics and wealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted March 22 Members Share Posted March 22 22 hours ago, L/H White said: Liverpool? Where do they rank in the world? Depends on what we are ranking them on. Terrace mayhem involving death, clear no. 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 13 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Depends on what we are ranking them on. Terrace mayhem involving death, clear no. 1. Self pity league they’re also well clear at the top of that league as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 5th or 6th Liverpool for me. In the AC Milan bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 minutes ago, gonzo said: 5th or 6th Liverpool for me. In the AC Milan bracket. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 22 Moderators Share Posted March 22 Real Madrid Man Utd Barcelona Liverpool AC Milan Juventus Bayern Munich Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Zico said: Real Madrid Man Utd Barcelona Liverpool AC Milan Juventus Bayern Munich Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest Anyone else? Big argument for Ajax. For me theres no place at the top table for PSG..... yet. Edited March 22 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 22 Moderators Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, Underpants said: Big argument for Ajax. For me theres no place at the top table for PSG..... yet. yeah, did think about Ajax, they'd be on that list, but probably 8th PSG are nowhere near, they have done fuck all in Europe, 1 CWC back in the 90s they've a lot of catching up to do to get near any of those teams domestically, they've won 11 titles, 9 of those have come since 2012/13 after the money started rolling in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zico said: Real Madrid Man Utd Barcelona Liverpool AC Milan Juventus Bayern Munich Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest Anyone else? . Edited March 22 by L/H White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 22 Moderators Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, L/H White said: Barca over LIverpool? no chance fucking hell give it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Casino said: fucking hell give it up You don't get players leaving Barca for Liverpool. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, gonzo said: You don't get players leaving Barca for Liverpool. Simples. players choose money over history, it's not how it used to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 22 Site Supporter Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, L/H White said: players choose money over history, it's not how it used to be Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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