Barnsley (A)

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Really don't know what to make of it all

I get new manager bounce and lots of credit to SS (and JD) for making a team that could play well, win and adapt, and come from behind, and all that 

On the back of the run and form up to Brum play offs were well on 

There were plenty opportunities in those games for the players to wilt if that's the issue 

But they didn't 

Then it's all just gone to shit and we're back to playing evatt formations and football 

But

The spirit was there v Wigan 

The result was there v Bristol 

The effort was there v Rotherham 

Then today 

Absolute dog wank 

For me it's difficult to pinpoint the issue 

For All the talk of a clear out anyone under contract will be here next season you'd have thought 

So if it's a mentality issue that is going to linger 

SS gets the summer and the opportunity to bring in new faces 

But on the evidence of his reign so far I've no idea what to expect 

The recruitment is going to have to be the best window we've had in a while

Seems reasonable. 

Probably nothing but coincidence, but did it go to ratshit around the time they announced the appointment of the director of football?

 

[woolli]

1 hour ago, thebells said:

He has money to spend this summer. 

Now, if i would of said, i would have been fuckin slated, " how do you know that? proof? and Blah blah blah, so, you much be Sharons side kick for the inside knowledge? I hope you are right, having money to spend doesnt give any indication of how much? 

[gonzo]

[Tonge moor green jacket]

He may have a point, but we're still above them in the table.

Just like the Wigan mon did, hopefully this will be sufficient a spur for when we play them next.

[Ani]

SS getting away very lightly today. I wanted him as manager and I still do but he put that team out today and it was not at the races. 
 

The triple substitution felt like panic but how changing 2 full backs for 2 lesser full backs was going to change the game is beyond me. I get he is hamstrung by the IE transfer dealings but today was a massive step to nowhere. 

[Eddie]

39 minutes ago, Casino said:

I think, except Birmingham, most team in our league take GT

You’re not going to be surprised at this… but you’ve got to be kidding?

They might take him to be a back up option, but he is one of the fundamental reasons that we continue to underperform. He’s a great character, no doubt about it, but he is outplayed by so many midfields (including the team in 12th today). Morley has proved he can play centre mid for the team at the top of the league, Sheehan is playing centre mid on the international stage, GT turned down a move and became the L1 Gerrard in people’s eyes. If we start with him in centre mid next season then we aren’t getting promoted.

[Rizlar]

Just back speechless Santos and Sheehan can fuck off had enough of them both ! 

[thebells]

20 minutes ago, woolli said:

Now, if i would have said, i would have been fuckin slated, " how do you know that? proof? and Blah blah blah, so, you much be Sharons side kick for the inside knowledge? I hope you are right, having money to spend doesnt give any indication of how much? 

People said last week Santos would never play for club again. I said that was wrong. 

As far back as last pre season, I said Morley would go out on loan before he did. 

I’m no sidekick, and I’ll never share more than I know. I know some senior people (nobody on the board). 

Ive no issue with you or anyone else being cynical about my info, but I only ever share info that’s come from good sources. 

As for how much, I don’t know. But SS was a sought after manager and came because funds were to be made available. 

[burnden]

1 minute ago, thebells said:

People said last week Santos would never play for club again. I said that was wrong. 

He was on the pitch but didn't play today   not just him obvs

[noxid]

The last summer transfer window was an absolute shambles. Last season, we basically finished fourth, had a big transfer budget and have been well overtaken this year by two teams coming up from League 2, so the problem has been the board believing in Evatt s big plan which has imploded significantly.

Edited April 12, 2025 by noxid
typo

[Dr. Feelgood]

Having to return Santos, having then to move others around to fit "our best defender" in.

He's now a disruption.

I understand he's signed a contract to play abroad next season.

Bye.

[Farnywhite]

10 minutes ago, thebells said:

As for how much, I don’t know. But SS was a sought after manager and came because funds were to be made available. 

I hope you are right but remember SS first interview and he said as soon as the job came up he told is agent he wanted the job that  was before he spoke to the board . 
Funds being available could be we have the 3rd highest wage bill wheel and deal with that 

Edited April 12, 2025 by Farnywhite

[Wanderlust]

3 hours ago, bwfc6ix said:

Evatt was right. Piss weak minded players. Thing is was it was him that signed them and screwed us. 

Bullshit. Markham was in charge of recruitment.

Markham was Sporting Director. He scouted the players, negotiated the deals and signed the contracts.

But you are correct in saying Evatt was right in his assessment of the players he was landed with.

[L/H White]

this set of players have to many battle scars 

clear out needed 

another 3 years + in this league yet

[thebells]

2 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

I hope you are right but remember SS first interview and he said as soon as the job came up he told is agent he wanted the job that  was before he spoke to the board 

I know you’re not daft. Sometimes managers and players say what the fans want to hear. 

SS would have wanted the job. But of course he wouldn’t accept it until his ‘package’ was agreed. This would have included assurances about transfer budget. 

[Wanderlust]

1 hour ago, Steejay said:

Yeah, but he signed them all 🤷🏻‍♂️

No he didn’t.

He managed what he was given.

Edited April 12, 2025 by Wanderlust

[Blondi]

2 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Bullshit. Markham was in charge of recruitment.

Markham was Sporting Director. He scouted the players, negotiated the deals and signed the contracts.

But you are correct in saying Evatt was right in his assessment of the players he was landed with.

So Evatt didn't have any say about the players Markham scouted?

[woolli]

7 minutes ago, thebells said:

People said last week Santos would never play for club again. I said that was wrong. 

As far back as last pre season, I said Morley would go out on loan before he did. 

I’m no sidekick, and I’ll never share more than I know. I know some senior people (nobody on the board). 

Ive no issue with you or anyone else being cynical about my info, but I only ever share info that’s come from good sources. 

As for how much, I don’t know. But SS was a sought after manager and came because funds were to be made available. 

I said Santos woudnt play again, he wouldnt if Toal and Forrester wasnt fit, and today was an example why he shouldnt. As i said, would be great if SS as been given money to spend, recruitment is massive for this coming season.

[woolli]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Having to return Santos, having then to move others around to fit "our best defender" in.

He's now a disruption.

I understand he's signed a contract to play abroad next season.

Bye.

Londonstan!

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Wanderlust said:

No he didn’t.

He managed what he was given.

Wrong

[Wanderlust]

1 minute ago, Blondi said:

So Evatt didn't have any say about the players Markham scouted?

As I understand it, Evatt would ask Markham for a player in a certain position and Markham would go off and press some buttons on his analysis machine, make a couple of calls then come back and tell Evatt who he was getting.

[Wanderlust]

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Wrong

Prove it.

[Farnywhite]

2 minutes ago, thebells said:

I know you’re not daft. Sometimes managers and players say what the fans want to hear. 

SS would have wanted the job. But of course he wouldn’t accept it until his ‘package’ was agreed. This would have included assurances about transfer budget. 

Hopefully he can get the same backing evatt got at least . But balancing the wage bill is going to be the problem over paid  players not wanting a backward move 

[Wanderlust]

1 minute ago, Farnywhite said:

Hopefully he can get the same backing evatt got at least . But balancing the wage bill is going to be the problem over paid  players not wanting a backward move 

…or a forward move if recent performances are anything to go by.

[Farnywhite]

2 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

As I understand it, Evatt would ask Markham for a player in a certain position and Markham would go off and press some buttons on his analysis machine, make a couple of calls then come back and tell Evatt who he was getting.

Pretty sure if evatt had not bought any of them he would have said to save is reputation we had him blaming the players earlier this season and the fans at one point . Marc iles said on a podcast that he thought markham was getting undue stick for the transfers when he left the club