DirtySanchez Posted May 19, 2024 Posted May 19, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, deeane Koontz said: Doubt we will be inundated with offers for Santos after some of his performances this season. A colossal on his day but they're becoming more like rocking horse shit these days. Seems to have become extremely complacent for some reason. Thing is, if we did want to sell then who to? Can't see a championship club coming in and who in league one would offer what we'd probably be looking for? Edited May 19, 2024 by DirtySanchez Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted May 19, 2024 Posted May 19, 2024 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: Thing is, if we did want to sell then who to? Can't see a championship club coming in and who in league one would offer what we'd probably be looking for? Someone offering £20 puts us in profit tbh Quote
Biggish Dave Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Nixon reporting we want to sign Ashworth. Is that a sign of altering our pattern? I like Ashworth but seemed behind the rest in the pecking order. Defensive midfielder next to GT maybe? Plays there for Wales kids and did so for Burton Quote
Steejay Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 24 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: Nixon reporting we want to sign Ashworth. Is that a sign of altering our pattern? I like Ashworth but seemed behind the rest in the pecking order. Defensive midfielder next to GT maybe? Plays there for Wales kids and did so for Burton Amazed at that, but pleasantly surprised. I think he's had a raw deal tbh. Showed some balls for the headed equalizer against Barnsley, then a lovely cushioned volley against Carlisle. He wasn't afraid to get stuck in either, more so than our other options. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Steejay said: Amazed at that, but pleasantly surprised. I think he's had a raw deal tbh. Showed some balls for the headed equalizer against Barnsley, then a lovely cushioned volley against Carlisle. He wasn't afraid to get stuck in either, more so than our other options. I'd be delighted. But it runs counter to how we've used him. I'd have Caleb back, on loan I guess. Quote
Mantra Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 I hope we cash in on a few this summer. Not got anyone in mind particularly but I’d like to see us generate some profit and use it to refresh the team. We’ve been missing something all season. Baxter, Toal, Thomason, Collins and CMG I hope we keep. The rest I am less bothered about. Quote
Stig Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 31 minutes ago, Mantra said: I hope we cash in on a few this summer. Not got anyone in mind particularly but I’d like to see us generate some profit and use it to refresh the team. We’ve been missing something all season. Baxter, Toal, Thomason, Collins and CMG I hope we keep. The rest I am less bothered about. I'm hoping decent bids come in for Santos and Charles, not that I think they're bad, just that we could use the money to reinvest in problem areas of the team, and they'd probably command the biggest fees. Although if someone wants to offer us money for Vic or Nlundulu I'd be more than happy. Quote
Whitesince63 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 We need to see who the manager is first before we start considering this or that player. Hopefully that will be resolved soon so we can get on with the rebuild? Quote
Stig Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 Marc Iles reporting we may pay to keep Ashworth, as some of you have mentioned already. Has he been injured the last third of the season? I don't understand why we'd pay money for him otherwise as we've hardly played him. FWIW I actually posted a couple of months ago he looked far better than Ogbeta, but having all these specialist wing backs has really locked us into 532, so I wouldn't be keen on spending money on those positions. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 10 minutes ago, Stig said: Marc Iles reporting we may pay to keep Ashworth, as some of you have mentioned already. Has he been injured the last third of the season? I don't understand why we'd pay money for him otherwise as we've hardly played him. FWIW I actually posted a couple of months ago he looked far better than Ogbeta, but having all these specialist wing backs has really locked us into 532, so I wouldn't be keen on spending money on those positions. Ashworth isn't a specialist wing-back Quote
MickyD Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 On 17/05/2024 at 12:04, Steejay said: Wigan would love him. Shame he’s gone to Bradford then because he ticks all the boxes for becoming a Wigan player Did Wigan’s potential signing ever spend time as a Bolton player? ✅ Quote
radcliffe white Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 17 hours ago, Mantra said: I hope we cash in on a few this summer. Not got anyone in mind particularly but I’d like to see us generate some profit and use it to refresh the team. We’ve been missing something all season. Baxter, Toal, Thomason, Collins and CMG I hope we keep. The rest I am less bothered about. There’s a player in Forrester for me Quote
Stig Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 35 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Ashworth isn't a specialist wing-back Doesn't look anywhere near strong enough to play left back, same as Ogbeta, Williams and Cogley. If we went to a back 4 none of them could play in it Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Stig said: Doesn't look anywhere near strong enough to play left back, same as Ogbeta, Williams and Cogley. If we went to a back 4 none of them could play in it Fair enough but I disagree Quote
masi 51 Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 We dont know yet if Evatt will be here next year or a new manager who will play a back four would not pay a fee for Ashworth, better being released Quote
Rizlar Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 Don’t understand why we would sign him Evatt as him as 4th choice LWB so really baffles me this link with signing him. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 I wouldn't lose any sleep if I didn't see any of Ashworth, Ogbeta, Williams, Iredale again, on the other side same with Jones and Cogley. I might be minded to give Jones another season but as RWB with a better, quicker right sided CB behind him. Evatt needs a radical rethink in the WB positions, if he's still here and still sticking resolutely to his preferred shape. None of what we have are robust enough to do both aspects of the job equally effectively. Quote
Stig Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 49 minutes ago, masi 51 said: We dont know yet if Evatt will be here next year or a new manager who will play a back four would not pay a fee for Ashworth, better being released Well exactly. I'm not sure why we'd be after him either way. If Evatt is here Ashworth was way down the pecking order, if Evatt leaves we can't have a squad so full of wing backs for the next manager to inherit. Realistically we need to make some space in the squad across the board to allow either Evatt or a new manager to freshen up a few positions and with the long contracts most are on, buying 4th choice wing backs seems really odd Quote
Wiso Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 If. And it's a big if, there's a change (ether in manager or style), would it be worth at a switch to a 4-2-3-1 type of system? Baxter Cogs / RB Toal Johnston LB Sheehan Ball winner CMG CAM Collins Dion I'd look to sell Rico, would let Geth / Randell, GT, Morley, possibly Dempsey and Adebeyejo go. Free JDB and Jerome. Becomes a massive rebuild then though Quote
Zog1 Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Wiso said: If. And it's a big if, there's a change (ether in manager or style), would it be worth at a switch to a 4-2-3-1 type of system? Baxter Cogs / RB Toal Johnston LB Sheehan Ball winner CMG CAM Collins Dion I'd look to sell Rico, would let Geth / Randell, GT, Morley, possibly Dempsey and Adebeyejo go. Free JDB and Jerome. Becomes a massive rebuild then though Think Randell can work in that formation, in a Ricardo Gardner esque role. Quote
JimmyRiddle Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 Just spoken to a mate who is big Ipswich fan, he says their preferred formation is 4-2-3-1, although they do occasionally got to a back 3 when needs must. So why the fuck does Evatt persist in Santos as this QB type role, rarely paying dividends attacking wise and leaving us exposed at the back. I just don't understand the strategy at all, it's high risk for little reward. Ipswich have done back to back promotions with a proper manager in high demand but Evatt knows best. Get a back 4 with two rugged centre halves to get us out of this division and a couple of shit houses in midfield. I just hope Evatt just fucks off tbh, he isnt half as clever as he thinks and tells people. Many people from Saturday have got their receipts too Ian, and will be quick to get on your back for day one. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 Back to the topic. From "left field", Adam Lallana left Brighton. Not a midfield twat, but maybe an experienced old head who could pull strings, especially against a well organised team? 36 now, which doesn't help, but surely he could do a job, even just to help us up. Quote
DazBob Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Back to the topic. From "left field", Adam Lallana left Brighton. Not a midfield twat, but maybe an experienced old head who could pull strings, especially against a well organised team? 36 now, which doesn't help, but surely he could do a job, even just to help us up. There's absolutely no chance he's moving up north for what we'd be offering to pay him. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 9 hours ago, radcliffe white said: There’s a player in Forrester for me I agree, but looks uncomfortable to me playing on the right of 3 centre backs, he looks like a bone fide centre back in a 4-4-2 who is fine in possession, but being expected to proactively get involved in attacks like Jones does, isn't his natural game. I expect him to leave due to lack of game time because Santos, Toal, Johnstone and Jones are ahead of him and that's without re-signing Taylor. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 9 hours ago, Stig said: Doesn't look anywhere near strong enough to play left back, same as Ogbeta, Williams and Cogley. If we went to a back 4 none of them could play in it If IE stays we aren't playing anyone at left back, and if IE goes we aren't signing Ashworth (IMO). If he signs for IE he needs his head testing TBH, he won't play other than as occasional stand in and pizza cup games (again, IMO). Quote
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