Johnnyrotten Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 25 minutes ago, royal white said: Anyway. £5 million a year. Just let that sink in And no crunch games for another 2 years. Not GS's fault, good luck to him, but it beggars belief how overrated the job is. You can under perform, pick the wrong team and tactics, be unlucky and still qualify for tournaments and get to the Q-Fs minimum as long as the draw isn't cruel (same applies to Germany, Spain, Italy etc). Bellamy at Wales could over perform, pick exactly the right team and tactics, have some luck and still not qualify for the WC or Euros, just because they might be playing Spain and Belgium or whoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: And no crunch games for another 2 years. Not GS's fault, good luck to him, but it beggars belief how overrated the job is. You can under perform, pick the wrong team and tactics, be unlucky and still qualify for tournaments and get to the Q-Fs minimum as long as the draw isn't cruel (same applies to Germany, Spain, Italy etc). Bellamy at Wales could over perform, pick exactly the right team and tactics, have some luck and still not qualify for the WC or Euros, just because they might be playing Spain and Belgium or whoever. 💯 I’d kind of get it if they were employing a Pep or Jose, but he’s not, he’s far from that. Baffling why the FA have decided to pay him so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 How much have the FA made from all these finals and semis, much more than £5m I’m sure so that may be why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 17 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: How much have the FA made from all these finals and semis, much more than £5m I’m sure so that may be why? That would make perfect sense if they had appointed a world class manager. They didn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Annoying aside, not that I think it would have made much difference, but the ball was in play during that 4 minutes stoppage time for 1.06 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 So Kane was carrying a knock after all. Who'd ave thunked it eh? What a fucking shit show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 15 Site Supporter Share Posted July 15 (edited) 13 minutes ago, gonzo said: So Kane was carrying a knock after all. Who'd ave thunked it eh? What a fucking shit show. Another similarity to Evatt. Persisting with a player who has a back injury and is well below par. Watkins, Toney et al will rightly be pissed off. Edited July 15 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 48 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Annoying aside, not that I think it would have made much difference, but the ball was in play during that 4 minutes stoppage time for 1.06 minutes. Agree with that. Scandalous lack of injury time played when you think of all the subs, the 3 goal celebrations, and as you say once we got in the 4 minutes injury time (which should have been at least 8), the ball was hardly in play and the ref just looked like he wanted it to be all over. Same scenario v Slovakia and we would have gone home in relative disgrace, GS would have gone already and we would have been robbed of the great memories of Bellingham's overhead kick, Saka's goal, the pen shootout win, Watkins amazing winner and the wonderful Palmer goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJG Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 16 hours ago, Mantra said: Spain played the more positive football and were better on the night, no complaints about the result. Don't think it would've made any difference but blowing for a foul on Cucurella at the end was a disgrace when we were in a good position, then Spain took 45 seconds to actually take it, then the ref blew this whistle on 90+4 exactly before we could even take our free kick. If that was in Qatar we would have got 10 mins injury time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 47 minutes ago, gonzo said: So Kane was carrying a knock after all. Who'd ave thunked it eh? What a fucking shit show. So why start him in the last group game when we'd already qualified? It was the perfect opportunity to give 2 or 3 a try or a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 12 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: So why start him in the last group game when we'd already qualified? It was the perfect opportunity to give 2 or 3 a try or a rest. I think these questions are all coming. We were saying the same last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 You could tell that Kane was injured, but actually knowing that now pisses me off more than it should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 15 Site Supporter Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, mickbrown said: You could tell that Kane was injured, but actually knowing that now pisses me off more than it should And asking him to plod about up front, on his own, while the other ten drop off 50 yards to get behind the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Southgate now blaming fatigue, he had 23 fucking players to choose from, yet hardly utilised any to give fatigued players a rest, fucking lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, gonzo said: exactly my thoughts and feelings Aye Spot on. Southgate did seem to admit that we weren’t great after we got back in it. Bellingham should have come off when we scored & it was left too late. He was fcked. Too many times we were on the ropes. After their first goal & then again after ours when the momentum was there to be pounced upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Glad is wasn’t just me. I was proper chuntering at the telly at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 39 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Southgate now blaming fatigue, he had 23 fucking players to choose from, yet hardly utilised any to give fatigued players a rest, fucking lunatic. Golden opportunity in the Slovenia game to give the likes of Gordon, Toney or Watkins and Wharton some minutes. If Kane was less than fully fit it should have been made clear that if he started he only did an hour and Toney or Watkins would do the rest of the shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 15 Site Supporter Share Posted July 15 49 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Southgate now blaming fatigue, he had 23 fucking players to choose from, yet hardly utilised any to give fatigued players a rest, fucking lunatic. Meanwhile, Spain etc were all fresh as fuckin daisies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) A Spain win was probably the fair result based on the tournament as a whole and the match. However .. there's no question that for a spell after our equaliser we got on top. A quickfire second during that phase was far from impossible. Instead we did what we did against Italy three years ago at Wembley ... sat back Oh well. That win over Holland in the semi will long live with me. Edited July 15 by paulhanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Bellamy at Wales could over perform, pick exactly the right team and tactics, have some luck and still not qualify for the WC or Euros, just because they might be playing Spain and Belgium or whoever. I can live with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 As stated earlier in the thread we are not as good as we think we are. Kane was a waste of space in every game Bellingham very poor except for the goal.I don't see what all the fuss was about Foden tried to get into games but mostly failed Trippier square pegs in round holes so not entirely his fault Saka see Foden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Has he fucked off yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeane Koontz Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Didn't realise the Euros was 8 teams prior to 1996. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 12/07/2024 at 19:08, Cheese said: He's "not liked" by fucking morons. I'm sure he'll be able to live with that. Looks like those “morons” were right. No manager should be starting with an injured player especially when you have players who are as good on the bench ready to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 so, who do we all want him replaced with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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