RIP Sven

[athywhite1958]

RIP to Sven Goran Eriksson, good manager, good bloke, liked his shagging

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

He batted well above his average

An inspiration

And seemingly a good, well-liked man to boot

RIP

[batton carrier]

Top shagger . RIP

[FrancisFogarty]

Apart from an impresive shagging rcord he was just what England needed. A change from the like for like suits we'd had before.

[Alf Hartigan]

I liked him, but let’s be honest he was a disaster for England. Although I’d take into account all the players from different clubs not getting on. RIP Sven.

Edited August 26, 2024 by Alf Hartigan
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27 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

I liked him, but let’s be honest he was a disaster for England. 

Definitely no Southgate

If the players didnt get on, thats on him to sort

[Alf Hartigan]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Definitely no Southgate

If the players didnt get on, thats on him to sort

He should definitely have won something with that group he had.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

24 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

He should definitely have won something with that group he had.

They were never the best squad in any tournament he managed

[Alf Hartigan]

He had better players than Southgate has had. But GS achieved far more. We’ve still won fuck all though.

Edited August 26, 2024 by Alf Hartigan

[Casino]

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

They were never the best squad in any tournament he managed

Quite probable

But last 8 mustve been a bare minimum?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

20 minutes ago, Casino said:

Quite probable

But last 8 mustve been a bare minimum?

I think for a country like England tournament progression mostly depends on how the draw pans out

[Tonge moor green jacket]

25 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

He had better players than Southgate has had. But GS achieved far more. We’ve still won fuck all though.

Not sure I agree with that.

One thing Southgate has done is manage to erase club loyalties from getting in the way.

Sven didn't have the advantage of looking after the u21s first though, and I doubt he'd have been given the time to do that, and bring players through from it before clubs could build a wall around their own.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

For what it's worth, I think Sven would've got us to the final in 2018

[Alf Hartigan]

I think that generation around 2002 far exceeds what we’ve got now 

[bolty58]

Hard to forgive that friendly against Australia at Upton Park. Years of grief from that.

Seemed a very nice bloke though. RIP.

 

[jayjayoghani]

6 hours ago, Alf Hartigan said:

I think that generation around 2002 far exceeds what we’ve got now 

Agreed. Certainly the first 11 anyway. 

Sven was hampered by club rivalries. Man Utd and Arsenal clearly fucking hated each other back then and he never really got on top of that. Plus there's Chelsea and the Scousers (Terry and Gerrard axis). 

You have to conquer the rivalries otherwise you're fucked at international level. Aragones and then Del Bosque did it with Spain and the big two and won 3 tournaments in a row.

[SalCity Biggie]

I had the pleasure of meeting him back in the early 2000s when I worked at the Lowry Hotel in Manchester, he seemed like a really nice bloke. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 hours ago, Alf Hartigan said:

I think that generation around 2002 far exceeds what we’ve got now 

Each to their own, but we've got and had some truly top lads now.

Kane past his best, but the leading England goalscorer has been a huge asset for example.

For me, some of the previous greats were just that for club, but weren't consistent at international level.

Be that becasue of club rivalries or not quite as good as they were made out, who knows.

[Sweep]

I think he always came across quite well, but let's not pretend he was a good England manager, he was shit

[tomski]

12 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

They were never the best squad in any tournament he managed

He had to manage a bunch of absolute Tossers.

[tomski]

11 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I think he always came across quite well, but let's not pretend he was a good England manager, he was shit

3 Q-F’s wasn’t shit. May only be be looked back now with our recent final appearances as shite but it wasn’t then.

[deeane Koontz]

Rip Sven

Always came across like a decent bloke and super calm.

Shame that generation of England players were a gaggle of absolute whoppers

[Sweep]

15 minutes ago, tomski said:

3 Q-F’s wasn’t shit. May only be be looked back now with our recent final appearances as shite but it wasn’t then.

the players he had at the time, we should have done so, so much better - I know the players were utter tossers, but that was down to him to manage.

In the grand scheme of things though, you're probably right, as a QF team is pretty much the level that England should be at, I just thought back then, we could/should have won something, as I think the players he had were better than what Southgate has had (of course, he's won fuck all as well)

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

the players he had at the time, we should have done so, so much better - I know the players were utter tossers, but that was down to him to manage.

In the grand scheme of things though, you're probably right, as a QF team is pretty much the level that England should be at, I just thought back then, we could/should have won something, as I think the players he had were better than what Southgate has had (of course, he's won fuck all as well)

People say this but look at the matches he lost.

Plus, I don't think the 'Golden Generation' were as good as what we've had for the last few years.

This is with the caveat that I can't stand either Gerrard or Lampard, or Terry or Ferdinand etc. Didn't even watch that match we lost to Germany, just wasn't bothered about that team at all.

[Dimron]

RIP and thanks for the 5-1 mate