Rotherham United (A)

[Greg_BWFC]

9 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

We've all seen us get relegated a few times no doubt, but I can't remember getting to mid Jan with so many limp defeats where its game over after an hour.  We don't even get to see a proper game of football.  Plenty of poor seasons when we've been frustrated by late goals conceded etc, but never this limp surely?  I used to think last minute or unlucky defeats were the worst feeling, but this new era of not even joining in is far worse, because once the initial disappointment is done, you realise there's actually no hope for the next game that isn't a "gimme".  That feeling of certainty that we turn up at Huddersfield and its a carbon copy of today, they won't need to break sweat.

It's the ease with which we got brushed aside in those games.

We were never in the games at all, never.

And we should be better than that.

And yes, the players have to take responsibility and should be called out - behind closed doors.

But it all begins and ends with the manager.

[Stig]

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Cheers pal. It plays without subscription 

That is some self delusion. 

No mention of the fact he's recruited and trained these "mentally fragile" players as he calls them.

No mention that his team selection left us wide open. And his answer was to go to a 5-1-4 for the last 30mins FFS.

He's a joke, who scarpered down the tunnel as quickly as he could. He just wants a payout.

[itdiddidit?]

22 minutes ago, superjohnmcginlay said:

I was over that end, most entertaining part of the day. That fella top row weren’t for shifting. 
 

 

The kids match on at half time was the best entertainment for me. Would have gladly watched that for the 2nd half instead of the shite on offer.

Just walked the dog down past the Academy.

They really need to change the light bulbs to red around the place.

With all the fannys he's signed they can open a brothel.

Pathetic today absolutely pathetic.

[Johnnyrotten]

27 minutes ago, Greg_BWFC said:

He just has his teams playing to their strengths, simple. 

Its easy to come to that conclusion after they outplayed us today, but they had scored 2 goals in their last 5 games and are bottom half.  Their crowd was flat as a pancake because they are poor to watch.  He's doing a very average job this season with the resources he has (eg Clarke-Harris and Hugill on the bench) - beating us comprehensively at home doesn't even mean getting your team to play to their strengths, its not working against many other teams. 

[Greg_BWFC]

1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Its easy to come to that conclusion after they outplayed us today, but they had scored 2 goals in their last 5 games and are bottom half.  Their crowd was flat as a pancake because they are poor to watch.  He's doing a very average job this season with the resources he has (eg Clarke-Harris and Hugill on the bench) - beating us comprehensively at home doesn't even mean getting your team to play to their strengths, its not working against many other teams. 

Good points but that kind of makes today worse 😟

[Johnnyrotten]

21 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

Yep then Huddersfield will tear us a new one . Then a few home wins defeat at Blackpool and Wigan away You can almost predict it 

I can see us winning the next 3 - all favourable opponents that hardly ever beat us - Lincoln followed by 2 relatively easy home games, Cambridge and Charlton.  There will be fans on here, never mind Evatt, saying we are back on track and let's see if we can put a run together.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

29 minutes ago, Blondi said:

If Evatt did get sacked, how does it work with his shares? We just pay him some extra ££?

Unless there is some sort of agreement, he keeps them.

Don't think there is anything that says an unemployed manager can't have shares!

Hed have to get rid before he took another job though.

[TM Trotter]

A good, competitive, balanced game of football where either side could have won it with dazzling attacking play and resolute defending from both teams... the under 11s 6-a-side game at HT was gripping!

Rest of it was toss. 

10/10 to the Rotherham fans on the top right refusing to move for the Technicolour Dreamcoat of stewards at different supervisory levels. 

[Mounts Kipper]

It’s been apparent for a long time that we need a proper old style  centre mid and CF….. he just needs to do the honourable thing hold his hands up admit he’s failed and step aside. 

[gonzo]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Unless there is some sort of agreement, he keeps them.

Don't think there is anything that says an unemployed manager can't have shares!

Hed have to get rid before he took another job though.

Pretty sure you can have shares in who the hell you like.

His are B shares too.

I think 

[Eddie]

23 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I can see us winning the next 3 - all favourable opponents that hardly ever beat us - Lincoln followed by 2 relatively easy home games, Cambridge and Charlton.  There will be fans on here, never mind Evatt, saying we are back on track and let's see if we can put a run together.

I could see it too, we’re all too predictable and there are enough of the shit teams that we will beat regardless to just keep things ticking over, and we tend to get a couple of them in a row to save his skin.

Earlier in the season I pointed out his record in the ‘big games’ in each season - he’s averaged pretty much a point per game in them, and that’s boosted by a better record in his first season (L2).

This season, we always knew that we’d have more of those type of games, where the crowds are bigger, they’re more local or there’s added pressure on them, in my mind they were Brum, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wigan, Wrexham, Stockport, Blackpool and Barnsley. 16 games that if we carried on our typical Evatt record would see us get 16 points from them.

So far, we’ve played each of them once. Lost 6, drawn 1 and won 1 - 4 points (0.5ppg). Scored 4 goals and conceded 19!!

We really are useless in them.

It feels like there’s more than just mentality in those games that is wrong at the moment, we just look like a fundamentally poor team that has lost all idea of how we play football, but even if we do pull our act together, there are 8 games in the rest of the season that we can almost write off - we certainly won’t be picking up more than 12 points from them.

Even in the best case scenario that we pick 12 points up in those 8 games (to take us to our 1ppg average this season) it leaves us needing 28 points from the remaining 14 games in order to just about hit the play offs (based on 3 of the last 4 years). There’s not a chance we’ve got it in us.

It’s been obvious from the start of the season, I just can’t believe that an owner that is so business savvy can’t do the analysis to see what’s staring her right in the face.

[burnden]

1 hour ago, tomski said:

I think he’s here till his contract is up.

17 months to go 🫣  June 2026 

[Hoppy]

Evatt match reaction,:

If the players did as I said we would have won but they are all crap I know I brought them in but I need better players that understand what I want not cheap players the board let me have it's frustrating for me and the fans who can see what I am aiming for to get Bolton into the premier league by 2035

[bolton va va]

Just back, & that was awful.

Too many aimless long balls to McAtee & Collins who won nothing, Morley looks no better than when he left & Randall was as bad as the P/boro lot said with fancy touches that didn't come off & weak as piss (I know it's too soon to write him off but he doesn't look what we needed, a bit more physicality & pace ) & we were weak all over the pitch.

I blame the players more than the manager for this spineless performance & i doubt that another manager would get better out of them........but IE signed them.

[L/H White]

still a little credit in the bank, deserves the chance to turn it around 

[Johnnyrotten]

10 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I could see it too, we’re all too predictable and there are enough of the shit teams that we will beat regardless to just keep things ticking over, and we tend to get a couple of them in a row to save his skin.

Earlier in the season I pointed out his record in the ‘big games’ in each season - he’s averaged pretty much a point per game in them, and that’s boosted by a better record in his first season (L2).

This season, we always knew that we’d have more of those type of games, where the crowds are bigger, they’re more local or there’s added pressure on them, in my mind they were Brum, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wigan, Wrexham, Stockport, Blackpool and Barnsley. 16 games that if we carried on our typical Evatt record would see us get 16 points from them.

So far, we’ve played each of them once. Lost 6, drawn 1 and won 1 - 4 points (0.5ppg). Scored 4 goals and conceded 19!!

We really are useless in them.

It feels like there’s more than just mentality in those games that is wrong at the moment, we just look like a fundamentally poor team that has lost all idea of how we play football, but even if we do pull our act together, there are 8 games in the rest of the season that we can almost write off - we certainly won’t be picking up more than 12 points from them.

Even in the best case scenario that we pick 12 points up in those 8 games (to take us to our 1ppg average this season) it leaves us needing 28 points from the remaining 14 games in order to just about hit the play offs (based on 3 of the last 4 years). There’s not a chance we’ve got it in us.

It’s been obvious from the start of the season, I just can’t believe that an owner that is so business savvy can’t do the analysis to see what’s staring her right in the face.

There has to be something in the "big game" thing, as opposed to just the quality of the opponents.  We've gone to Oxford and Wycombe and got decent 0-0 draws (yes we were awful at Wycombe, but did defend OK), we've beaten Oxford 5-0, we regularly get results against Peterboro home and away when they've been play off challengers - because not one of these games ever has a big game feel.  They are routine, no crowd to speak of, no expectant Bolton fans treating them as pivotal/pressure games.  As soon as that scenario does exist (Oxford again), we collapse and literally don't have an attack worthy of the name.

[Farnywhite]

8 minutes ago, Hoppy said:

Evatt match reaction,:

If the players did as I said we would have won but they are all crap I know I brought them in but I need better players that understand what I want not cheap players the board let me have it's frustrating for me and the fans who can see what I am aiming for to get Bolton into the premier league by 2035

You missed out the bit were he said if he had the calibre of owners of a Manchester City or Newcastle united we wouldn’t be 10th 

[tomski]

Drama queens

[Dimron]

11 minutes ago, burnden said:

17 months to go 🫣  June 2026 

He's here for the rest of the season... the window of opportunity has gone, a new manager would need the transfer window to bring his players in... it's a shit or bust decision from the Board... looking for a late run of form, the best way to go into a play off is to scrape in on a winning streak... to be honest, I'd probably do the same if I was on the board

[Stig]

2 hours ago, Farnywhite said:

He should have gone after Wembley but he isn’t blameless the players are bottlers and sulkers you only have to look at santos at the start of the season they can fuck off as well 

It's the ethos you set as the management team though. Blaming the players only works when a manager is brought in mid season and is fire fighting 

[Farnywhite]

4 minutes ago, L/H White said:

still a little credit in the bank, deserves the chance to turn it around 

 its not actually legal to sack a manger with above a 50 percent win rate and above average XG and possession stats 

[SatanGreavsie]

Just on the brandy to try to defrost. Comes to summat when the highlight of the day was the pork barm from that wagon before the game. Top notch, but downhill from then on - to say the fucking least.

[barrycowdrill]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 Nobody can legislate for individual errors though. Golden chances, stupid defensive mistakes or shit misplaced passes. 

Well, if they happen every now and again and quite clearly a mistake then no you can’t. However, all of those happen week in week out, game in game out. Yep, they’re L1 players but I guarantee not many other sides in the league are riddled with those issues so often. 
 

Put simply, if the players cannot execute what you are asking of them and it’s causing results to be negative more often than not then you have to find another way they are comfortable with 

[burnden]

12 minutes ago, Dimron said:

He's here for the rest of the season... the window of opportunity has gone, a new manager would need the transfer window to bring his players in... it's a shit or bust decision from the Board... looking for a late run of form, the best way to go into a play off is to scrape in on a winning streak... to be honest, I'd probably do the same if I was on the board

Sadly we can't stick two decent halves together in a single game let alone go on a run of winning games.

[Whitesince63]

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

I thought McAtee was going to on his interview..

Nah, just more of the same drivel and in fact he didn’t seem unduly bothered about it which is the most disappointing thing. Either these guys can’t see how shit they are or they just don’t care. I know Evatts come in for serious stick again tonight and quite rightly but the players really must accept their part of the problem and sadly I don’t think they really do.