Ratwhite Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Just chanced a look at the league table. It seems this is now a must win! Glad I'm going now (even though I was regretting it at 10pm last night) For some strange reason I think we'll win. 1-2 Medo and CYL 327 wind swept trotters Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I take my hat off to the loyal Wanderers going down to Millwall I think holloway will have whipped the fans and players up on the back of them losing Trotter to us, I think Millwall will win comfortably they will bully us all over the pitch, an easy 3-0. Quote
Zico Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Millwall fan here. Massive game now on Saturday, after tonight's results for our respective teams. Holloway started with 4 strikers tonight & is clearly mental, & I don't expect that to change Saturday! As you now know South Bermondsey overground station is closed. However, I've never understood why most sane away (& home) fans go that way anyway. Yes, it's the quickest route from London Bridge to the ground (3 mins and a walkway), but the train is always crowded and it doesn't allow you to feel the build up to a game, ie no walking with crowds to the ground, passing hot dog stalls, programme sellers, pubs etc. Therefore you could see this as an opportunity, and enforced bump out of what's easy... I think the best route is take the Jubilee Line to Bermondsey and walk from there, maybe through the Blue. You could stop for a Pie & Mash, and a pint or two in some genuine old (non tourist) London boozers. The Blue Anchor is a good little pub, or the Ancient Forresters is on the way to the ground (a 10/15 minute walk depending on your pace) on the corner Galleywall Road - local to famous London criminal Freddie Foreman and his family (who still drink there, including his actor son Jamie). Many bank robberies have been planned in that pub, so a bit of SE London history. Pretty straight forward if you look on Google Maps. As others have said, Surrey Quays (or Docks if you are a proper local) is a similar distance, and there's some good pubs around there too, plus a big Weatherspoons (altho that gets full of not hooligans, but lairy Millwall yoof). Again, easy route on Google Maps - plus a small detour can take you to the Ancient Forresters. There's a short cut through the Silwood Estate (keep your wits about), but that might be shut too. New Cross or New Cross Gate is another option. Some decent little London boozers around there, even a studenty one near Goldsmiths (the Marques of Granby), that has an interesting mix of Millwall fans, musicians and local art students. Bit more of a walk, but not by much & you get to go down Cold Blow Lane and through it's tunnel for a nostalgic Millwall experience. Of course, I'd recommend not wearing Bolton stuff in these places or loudly moaning about southern piss when drinking your pint; not that the hooligans would take much notice, but there's always a lairy prat around that might take exception, especially when backed up by a few mates.And to be fair, being obnoxious probably deserves a slap. There is also the 'tourist option'...drink around London Bridge and bus it / taxi it in. If you're are driving google Folkestone Gardens and head there for best place to park. Try and park outside a house; there's no restrictions etc, and about 5 minute walk to ground - follow fans coming from New Cross / Deptford / Surrey Quays heading west. Hope I've been of some help. for those who couldn't be arsed reading, I'll sum this up in pictures: go here watch out for have a good old Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Top stuff. Quite possibly the best post from an opposition fan we've ever received. Have to agree or is it and thinly veiled attempt at lets meet and have a scrap on the old kent road. Quote
L/H White Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I can't wait for Saturday, that away end is going to be mayhem, when we knock in a last minute winnner Roll on Saturday, COYFWM Quote
Woodwork Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Head to the Bramcote, landlady is ace Sadly closed - after one too many drug raids & the outside being pebble dashed with bullets! Quote
Woodwork Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Woodwork, you've inspired me! Gonna head to Bermondsey and try and pub crawl it to the ground, will be more of an adventure! If you're on here again before Saturday, are there any pubs that we should particularly avoid or will we generally be sound as long as we're not in colours/mouthing off? Thanks to over sensationalism by the mass media and our historical roots many away fans misunderstand the dangers (or not) of Millwall away in the 21st century. Back when Bermondsey, New Cross etc were close knit comuntities of dockers then a northerner or any outsider probably would have come a cropper, probably in the same way as if I walked in to a working man's club in Bolton in 1962 asking for a G&T and make it snappy. Nowadays, while some of the old pockets of the traditional communtities still hang in there (why our crowds have gone from 30-40,000 in the 1950s to 9-14,000 now) the area is cosmopolitan and tranisent enough for anybody to pop into most pubs without raising an eyebrow on a weekend. I'd probably avoid most on a Friday night if I wasn't local, but again...I'm sure that would apply to most back street Bolton pubs. I digress...as for the hooligans, due to CCTV, heavy sentences etc our lot are only interested in arranged meets these days. Gone are the days of rushing away fans getting off the train etc. If you are not in a large group and bringing attention to yourself you'll be fine in most pubs. I'd say New Cross if where you are most likely to be able to relax and mix freely in pubs, maybe even with a Bolyon top on, as that's an area where all sorts of people live. The Blue, Bermondsey is still a bit more local...but as said, this is inner city London, anyone and everyone lives here now...in fact I'd imagine most would welcome an outsider, and a northern one to boot, trying a pie and mash and having a pint. The best reason to try it is the fact that drinks in Bermondsey are about £1-2 less than around London Bridge...pity the docks aren't still open, my granddad tells me that so much was stolen off the ships that Bermondsey was the only place outside of Liverpool where poor people ate grapes, oranges, bananas in the 1930-60s and washed it down with practicularly free rum! Quote
Casino Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 how old are you woody a few on here did the 70s and 80s and it was hairy to say the least only been to the new place once and it put me right off Quote
Woodwork Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 how old are you woody a few on here did the 70s and 80s and it was hairy to say the least only been to the new place once and it put me right off I'm 34. The only thing I'd say is that once upon a time trouble used to find you, nowadays you have to find trouble. Our firm are still going strong, as you are probably aware from the big offs that made the news v West Ham, Hull City, Huddersfield etc in recent years...but like I said the days of rushing away fans outside the turnstiles have been killed by CCTV, Coward's Way and ott prison sentences for just giving someone a menacing look. In fact the more spontaneous form of trouble has been exported on the road..Sheffield Wednesday last season for example. Whereby the local SYP didn't expect 1,800 Millwall fans to turn up, containing about 500-600 hooligans...and the lack of intel and whole big city to scamper around resulted in a lot of spontaneous violence, plus a pre arranged meet with Sheffield United hooligans. At The Den that kind of spontaneous violence has all but vanished for the reasons given. Maybe if you beat us in the last minute in controversial circumstances trouble would break out (as happened with Wednesday a few years back) or thrashed us and went about goading us (as Palace did once, and soon regretted it)...but even so, the Met are well versed now. One thing us Millwall fans have never understood is why other clubs sell-out their big grudge matches, where there is likely to be bother, but avoid what I think is a decent away day (central London, good pubs, usually decent atmosphere) in Millwall, because of trouble. For the average Bolton fan I'm sure it's far worse going to Burnley, Blackburn etc than little old Millwall. Bermondsey only turns into the wild west when the likes of West Ham, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Man United, City, Liverpool, Everton, Leeds, Villa, Cardiff are in town, or if it's a massive match like we had with Wolves one Friday night, or a play off game. Look through all of Millwall's notorious past and you'll never see the headline 'Trouble at Millwall after mid table game with Norwich City'. Quote
Pie Eater Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Fair point. Wigan is worst trouble I've seen this year and that was pretty easily avoided, although knowing the place helps with that Quote
Woodwork Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I take my hat off to the loyal Wanderers going down to Millwall I think holloway will have whipped the fans and players up on the back of them losing Trotter to us, I think Millwall will win comfortably they will bully us all over the pitch, an easy 3-0.I think 80% of Wall fans would have driven Liam to Bolton themselves. That's not to say he isn't a good player, he is. But he was never what we'd call a Millwall type player..he had an ability to appear to be strolling most games & the amount of tackles he bottled just wasn't acceptable for a Millwall midfielder (we are still in the 1980s when It comes to how we like our football). And no amount of killer balls or well taken goals ever changed that. I think the fans will be whipped up enough...what with a win meaning we go above you and 6 points clear of Charlton who don't play. A loss would put us right in it! My belief is we'll try and start very fast (as we have under Holloway at home) and he doesn't mind chucking men forward...if we get an early goal we should hopefully keep up our relatively good home record (for a struggling side)...if Bolton hold firm and ride it up I think our poor confidence will come into play and you wouldn't bet against Bolton nicking it. Edited February 12, 2014 by Woodwork Quote
Woodwork Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 for those who couldn't be arsed reading, I'll sum this up in pictures: watch out for That's a bit of a faux pa. The Krays were massive rivals to the much more sinister, long lived and more secretive Richardson gang of southeast London. Understandable misconception tho. Quote
COYW Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Back when Bermondsey, New Cross etc were close knit comuntities of dockers then a northerner or any outsider probably would have come a cropper, probably in the same way as if I walked in to a working man's club in Bolton in 1962 asking for a G&T and make it snappy. Quote
COYW Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Do they still play this at the New Den? Best football song ever: Quote
Woodwork Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Of course we do COYW...wouldn't be Millwall without it! Quote
BOWTUN BAKED Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Due to a cock up with train tickets, it would appear I don't have one Part of me was pissed off as it's cost me a days wages & I was quite looking forward to a trip to Laahdan! The on pitch performances have turned me to being quite happy now. Though if a cancellation or cheap train ticket crops up, I'll be bang on it again. If anybody hears of owt........ Thankyou muchly Quote
SatanGreavsie Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 That's a bit of a faux pa. The Krays were massive rivals to the much more sinister, long lived and more secretive Richardson gang of southeast London. Understandable misconception tho. Them of the infamous "dentists chair" reputation. And Mad Frankie with his 'Arrods Axe Quote
Traf Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 My belief is we'll try and start very fast (as we have under Holloway at home) and he doesn't mind chucking men forward...if we get an early goal we should hopefully keep up our relatively good home record (for a struggling side)...if Bolton hold firm and ride it up I think our poor confidence will come into play and you wouldn't bet against Bolton nicking it. When you get your early goal, you're guaranteed the win. Quote
Spider Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Oi - ANEWMAN Woodwork just called you a soft Northern Shitshed and reckons you'd bottle it on Saturday. What about that eh? eh? Quote
Pie Eater Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Due to a cock up with train tickets, it would appear I don't have one Part of me was pissed off as it's cost me a days wages & I was quite looking forward to a trip to Laahdan! The on pitch performances have turned me to being quite happy now. Though if a cancellation or cheap train ticket crops up, I'll be bang on it again. If anybody hears of owt........ Thankyou muchly £40 for day travelcard from Wiggin. Includes your tube travel and all. Not really cheap but cheaper than normal ticket Quote
radcliffe white Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 £40 for day travelcard from Wiggin. Includes your tube travel and all. Not really cheap but cheaper than normal ticketthats good the £39.50 are the cheapest you get anyway at picc they only have 6.10 am and 10.35 left Quote
Pie Eater Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 thats good the £39.50 are the cheapest you get anyway at picc they only have 6.10 am and 10.35 left Not on the site now but there are certainly some for the 9.09 one from Wigan (I searched for 9am) Quote
EyesRight Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Spare 08.15 from Manc available for £40, not mine but PM me for details and I'll try and arrange pick up for you. Quote
BOWTUN BAKED Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Spare 08.15 from Manc available for £40, not mine but PM me for details and I'll try and arrange pick up for you.Yes please. Edit: trying to send PM, keeps coming up as error, can you send me one please & I'll reply. Cheers. Edited February 12, 2014 by BOWTUN BAKED Quote
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