Right - forgetting the bent bidding process and the conditions of the migrant workers building the stadiums - does anybody else agree that a Nov/Dec competition has the potential to be ace?

 

Firstly because it will take up most of the traditional Christmas bullshit season so we'll all be talking about football and not festivities. Secondly just for the novelty factor. And thirdly because we can see whether or not our well worn excuse about our players being tired stands up to scrutiny.

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d be drawing up a shortlist based on what we are looking for off the top of my head.
 

experienced and successful at club and at some experience at international or champs league level. 
 

someone with experience but not at the end of his career. 
 

someone with experience of British players and  our mentality. 

someone with a proven back room team. 

someone with a record of playing attractive attacking football. 

someone without ego and a team collective mentality. 
 

I’ve not really had a close look at who this might point to but this gives a template as to what we need. 
 

 

I think I know just the person who ticks the majority of those boxes 😉

58 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Put Ben Stokes in charge

I know you're messing but you have a point.

Reading about the Cricket set up it seems is very similar to the one Southgate has fostered.

Wellbeing is uppermost in what they do.. People want to play for Stokes and Southgate.

Just now, mickbrown said:

I know you're messing but you have a point.

Reading about the Cricket set up it seems is very similar to the one Southgate has fostered.

Wellbeing is uppermost in what they do.. People want to play for Stokes and Southgate.

And that’s why I’d let Southgate decide what he wants to do, for example if he wants to continue with the set up in a different role.

And then see if Pep is ready from 2025.

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Not sure. What do you pansies want?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sam-allardyce-taking-the-knee-b1880552.html?amp

Legend Big Sam backed the knee. 

He’s spoken out backing a number of issues related to “inclusivity” 

Just another woke “yes man”? Legendary status tainted? 

Edited December 12, 20223 yr by desperado

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

I think I know just the person who ticks the majority of those boxes 😉

Apart from the ego one 😃

17 minutes ago, royal white said:

I think I know just the person who ticks the majority of those boxes 😉

I’d take Klopp over Jose. Thinking about it Klopps the perfect choice. 

35 minutes ago, royal white said:

I think I know just the person who ticks the majority of those boxes 😉

Gareth Southgate.

just been on SSN that southgate hasnt made his decision yet and the FA have no interest in letting him go

2 hours ago, royal white said:

So you wouldn’t expect us beat Denmark….at home? 

aye, I was more hopeful than most games, but it's still a big game, being the semis

I don't think we're any better than the following and wouldn't expect us necessarily to win (but at least give us a game)

Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Portugal

we also just couldn't turn up against

Belgium, Dutch, Croatia

and expect a win

so whilst it's dissapointing, and we have a strong squad, so do the others

having the strongest league doesn't mean we have the strongest team

and we have won big games, but not tournaments, but we never do, so don't see any manager coming in who could take us to that next level, just keep working on this squad as we have been doing

 

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d take Klopp over Jose. Thinking about it Klopps the perfect choice. 

I'd want an English manager for an English team. Hated having Sven and Fabio. 

If you believe that taking the knee sends the wrong message, then I'd argue having a foreign manager sends a far worse one.

My list of criteria for the next England manager

English

Plays the best football on the planet

No teams have ever beat him

Never had a shot against any of his teams

no affiliation to any young current England players

must dress excellently

must love the Monarchy

must only take 2 max right backs.

must always always make the right decision

Not too old

Not too young

not too middle aged

no yellow teeth

must have own teeth

must like gravy

must not drink pints of wine

must never use a brolly

waistcoat only if its a Stoney.

over 6ft tall

not over 6ft3 tall

not fat

not skinny

No DMB's

No kopites

Must have won every trophy as a player

must have won every trophy as a manager

never ever failed

does charity work

eats a roast on Sundays

 

Thats it, kept it nice and short. That should keep everyopne happy....for now.

Edited December 12, 20223 yr by Pablo

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d take Klopp over Jose. Thinking about it Klopps the perfect choice. 

Traitor

27 minutes ago, Zico said:

aye, I was more hopeful than most games, but it's still a big game, being the semis

I don't think we're any better than the following and wouldn't expect us necessarily to win (but at least give us a game)

Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Portugal

we also just couldn't turn up against

Belgium, Dutch, Croatia

and expect a win

so whilst it's dissapointing, and we have a strong squad, so do the others

having the strongest league doesn't mean we have the strongest team

and we have won big games, but not tournaments, but we never do, so don't see any manager coming in who could take us to that next level, just keep working on this squad as we have been doing

 

One big difference between them and us is They’ve all recently won a major tournament. 
 

 

Edited December 12, 20223 yr by royal white

1 minute ago, Pablo said:

My list of criteria for the next England manager

English manager

Plays the best football on the planet

No teams have ever beat him

Never had a shot against any of his teams

no affiliation to any young current england players

must dress excellently

must love the Monachy

must only take 2 max right backs.

must always always always make the right decision

Not too old

Not too young

not too middle aged

no yellow teeth

not have own teeth

must like gravy

must not drink pints of wine

must never use a brolly

wastecoat only if its a Stoney.

over 6ft tall

not over 6ft3 tall

not fat

not skinny

No DMB's

No kopites

Must have won every trophy as a player

must have won every troph as a manager

never ever failed

does charity work

east a roast on Sundays

 

Thats it, kept it nice and short. That should keep everyopne happy....for now.

 

 

Correct😂

1 hour ago, royal white said:

One big difference between them and us is They’ve all recently won a major tournament. 
 

 

Aye, which is why I have them all down as better than us 

That and they're all in nations league A

4 hours ago, Traf said:

Some do.

Denmark have, at least, won something more recently than we have.

Don’t we laugh at Wigan for suggesting they’re bigger than Bolton because they won a major cup competition more recently than our four wins in the same cup competition?

10 minutes ago, Zico said:

Aye, which is why I have them all down as better than us 

That and they're all in nations league A

How come we are not in nations league A? 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

How come we are not in nations league A? 

because we dont care about it

Just now, royal white said:

How come we are not in nations league A? 

we got relegated

I wouldn't be too arsed if Southgate decided to leave, but I don't see anyone oustanding who I think could do better (and I've been a big Jose fan in the past, but since Utd he's lost his touch I'd say, not sure he'd be a short term fix or even if that is what we need)

apparently they've been researching his replacement for 3 years, it's all part of a "project", I don't expect him to go and for us to go down the route of a big proven name like we did with Sven and Capello anytime soon

(and I've just done some googling and apparently the names in the frame may well be Pochettino, Rodgers, Howe and Steve Cooper, so no thanks)

it took Deschamps 6 years as part of a "project" to win the WC

it took Low 8 years with another 2 as assistant as part of a "project" to win the WC

GS has got two years left, which takes us up to the euros, he can have it for me, and see what happens, the likes of Foden, Saka and Bellingham will be even better by then - we've come this far with him and I belive it's a project, so why start again now

 

1 minute ago, Zico said:

we got relegated

I wouldn't be too arsed if Southgate decided to leave, but I don't see anyone oustanding who I think could do better (and I've been a big Jose fan in the past, but since Utd he's lost his touch I'd say, not sure he'd be a short term fix or even if that is what we need)

apparently they've been researching his replacement for 3 years, it's all part of a "project", I don't expect him to go and for us to go down the route of a big proven name like we did with Sven and Capello anytime soon

(and I've just done some googling and apparently the names in the frame may well be Pochettino, Rodgers, Howe and Steve Cooper, so no thanks)

it took Deschamps 6 years as part of a "project" to win the WC

it took Low 8 years with another 2 as assistant as part of a "project" to win the WC

GS has got two years left, which takes us up to the euros, he can have it for me, and see what happens, the likes of Foden, Saka and Bellingham will be even better by then - we've come this far with him and I belive it's a project, so why start again now

 

coulnd't agree more

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

My list of criteria for the next England manager

English

Plays the best football on the planet

No teams have ever beat him

Never had a shot against any of his teams

no affiliation to any young current England players

must dress excellently

must love the Monarchy

must only take 2 max right backs.

must always always make the right decision

Not too old

Not too young

not too middle aged

no yellow teeth

must have own teeth

must like gravy

must not drink pints of wine

must never use a brolly

waistcoat only if its a Stoney.

over 6ft tall

not over 6ft3 tall

not fat

not skinny

No DMB's

No kopites

Must have won every trophy as a player

must have won every trophy as a manager

never ever failed

does charity work

eats a roast on Sundays

 

Thats it, kept it nice and short. That should keep everyopne happy....for now.

Can it be a woman/non-binary?

31 minutes ago, Traf said:

Can it be a woman/non-binary?

Ooof no chanvce, imagine the gammon-rage!?!

3 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Ooof no chanvce, imagine the gammon-rage!?!

How about a vegan transsexual?

11 minutes ago, Traf said:

How about a vegan transsexual?

@Carlosonly does computers mate.

Fuck off, I'm not a vegan.