Guest Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In the late 70s I was working 35 hours per week, plus very limited overtime, and spending 50 hours per week on my athletic club team manager's role. At the end of the 1978 season I knew I would have a lot of overtime in 1979, thanks to the Chancellor of the Exchequer moving the goalposts for tax relief on life assurance premiums, so gave up the club work. In 1979 I worked 3 Saturdays and 21 Sundays, mostly at short notice, as well as a few nightshifts. Malc. From my memory, didn't LAPR change in 1984? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Malc. From my memory, didn't LAPR change in 1984? It was turned inside out in 1979, and the rate reduced (possibly 1984) before being abolished, Prior to 1979, if you paid £100 premium you could reclaim £17.50 on your tax return. From 6 April 1979 you paid £82.50 and the insurance company claimed £17.50. Of course companies claimed in every instance, whereas previously an unknown proportion of policyholders failed to bother claiming on a tax return, so it cost the Treasury money in the short term, possibly contributing to its abolition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 oh dear http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/leak-reveals-junior-doctors-plot-to-draw-out-bitter-contract-dis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 oh dear http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/leak-reveals-junior-doctors-plot-to-draw-out-bitter-contract-dis/ I don't think it's helped their case that patient survival rate went up during the strike because the wards were staffed by consultants ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Regardless of whether they are right or wrong I think a doctor swearing an oath and all that, walking out and letting patients suffer is pretty fucking despicable. And you bedwetting who say "but what about their rights they defend" tell that to your nan waiting cancer surgery to be told "sorry love you've been rescheduled due to a strike". Just fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 And you bedwetting who say "but what about their rights they defend" tell that to your nan waiting cancer surgery to be told "sorry love you've been rescheduled due to a strike". Just fuck off. Happened to my mother-in-law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted May 28, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2016 Happened to my mother-in-law. mums been waiting for kidney surgery, been a fair while and strikes don't really help that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I back them. If they lose I'm worried it'll be the slow death of the nhs. Although that's arguably already started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 28, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 28, 2016 what do you mean, lose? the union have said they have a deal theyre happy with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I back them. If they lose I'm worried it'll be the slow death of the nhs. Although that's arguably already started have you read the article I posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I back them. If they lose I'm worried it'll be the slow death of the nhs. Although that's arguably already started Indeed. When labour spunked tens of billions on pfi's that we will be paying off with huge interest for the next 3 generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 have you read the article I posted? To be fair - what two union bods said in private doesn't make what the JD's are striking for any more or less valid. People say all sorts of stuff 'off the record'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 To be fair - what two union bods said in private doesn't make what the JD's are striking for any more or less valid. People say all sorts of stuff 'off the record'. They willfully dragged it out. Utter cunts trick that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'd love to see what Hunt, Stevens and Sir David Dalton were saying behind the scenes. All about pay from both sides I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 They willfully dragged it out. Utter cunts trick that. So did Hunt. He knew the early strikes would be heavily supported and that an all-out strike much less so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 They willfully dragged it out. Utter cunts trick that. Like I said - whether they are or aren't 'utter cunts' doesn't affect whether the JD's reasons for striking are any less valid. And like RR points out - I'm sure if Hunt et al had their private conversations revealed there would be a few interesting remarks for us all to talk about. Be interested to see who was responsible for the hack taking place mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I read it. Not a great shock I was speaking to a consultant 6 months ago who said it's about pay. At grass roots I don't think its all about pay. All the stuff about 7 day nhs and creating nore shifts with the same amount of doctors just doesn't work. There's been a pretty dirty campaign fought by the government it's not surprising how it's been met. The doctors are sick of being treated with contempt. The morale in hospitals (I can only speak from experience and first hand accounts from friends) is terrible amongst doctors and nurses. If the nurses had any leadership they'd probably go on strike as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Maybe I'm a cunt but I'd have more sympathy for a nurses strike than junior doctors. I've worked with the NHS for the last 30 years and if anyone deserves support on a strike it's nurses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 28, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 28, 2016 There's plenty nurses very well paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 There's more than enough not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) There's plenty nurses very well paid So which band do you reckon is well paid vs hours paid plus responsibility?? Is for example a band 8 nurse well paid for the job that they do in your opinion?? Edited May 28, 2016 by MancWanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 So which band do you reckon is well paid vs hours paid plus responsibility?? Is for example a band 8 nurse well paid for the job that they do in your opinion?? Are nurses unaware of the hours and pay before they decide on nursing as a career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Are nurses unaware of the hours and pay before they decide on nursing as a career? Surely, if they hate the job and pay, they can just spruce up their CV and get any job they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 So which band do you reckon is well paid vs hours paid plus responsibility?? Is for example a band 8 nurse well paid for the job that they do in your opinion?? There's not many nurses on an 8 mate. You are in danger of undermining your own point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 28, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 28, 2016 I know a few practice nurses and they're on a reet good screw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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