Transfer Gossip

[Biggish Dave]

The owner fella at Wigan is expecting to prop them up by a substantial amount again next year. They aren’t signing from L1, they have higher aspirations than that

[Escobarp]

11 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

Sure wyke was the first signing after the trouble too so they went big straight away. McLean, Power, Keane then Magennis & someone else got very decent money 

It’s utter madness. For a small club like a that. I incorrectly thought the likes of power  and Keane were already there. But now I think about it they had to sell anybody half decent to keep afloat whilst the efl allowed them many many months more than they allowed bury. 
 

i take no satisfaction in the financial troubles of most clubs but admit I would love them to go pop and tranmere as well. 

Edited May 4, 2022 by Escobarp

[Rizlar]

A Wigan fan I work with reckoned the wage bill is something around 6 to 8 million McClean and Magennis on 10 grand a week he reckons! 

[Burndens Bogs]

44 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

A Wigan fan I work with reckoned the wage bill is something around 6 to 8 million McClean and Magennis on 10 grand a week he reckons! 

It wouldn’t surprise me.

Hows it sustainable with crowds of 9k a week though?

In the Championship that would possibly rise to 12k if they give out free tickets out to kids, flids & bids, but Wigan Athletic will never make anyone any money.

Edited May 4, 2022 by Burndens Bogs

[Mounts Kipper]

10 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

It wouldn’t surprise me.

Hows it sustainable with crowds of 9k a week though?

Obviously that will rise by 3k if they give out free tickets out to kids, flids & bids, but Wigan will never make anyone any money.

If they get 13k at average of £20 (probably less average ticket price) for 26 games it’s 6.7 million plus whatever they get from the league, think its 5 million, that’s 13 million, the wage bill got to rise next season from current 6-8 million, they could easily be paying players close to 100% of their income. 

[Eddie]

The owner won’t be arsed about it being sustainable, he’ll know that if he can fund it long enough to hit the Prem then he’ll make a fucking fortune because even though it’s only Wigan, any club in the Prem becomes very valuable overnight.

Problem comes if you don’t reach the Prem and either Financial Fair Play says you can’t spend any more (Derby) or your owner decides he can’t spend any more (us). It’s a shit or bust tactic.

[barrycowdrill]

19 minutes ago, Eddie said:

The owner won’t be arsed about it being sustainable, he’ll know that if he can fund it long enough to hit the Prem then he’ll make a fucking fortune because even though it’s only Wigan, any club in the Prem becomes very valuable overnight.

Problem comes if you don’t reach the Prem and either Financial Fair Play says you can’t spend any more (Derby) or your owner decides he can’t spend any more (us). It’s a shit or bust tactic.

100% and invariably fails. The only club I can think of where it worked was Wolves.. 

derby are the tip of the iceberg in that league. A few at best are what you would consider “well run” Rovers and Stoke will be the next to be fucked 

[Traf]

12 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

100% and invariably fails. The only club I can think of where it worked was Wolves.. 

derby are the tip of the iceberg in that league. A few at best are what you would consider “well run” Rovers and Stoke will be the next to be fucked 

In April '21 when the accounts were done, Stoke City's interest free loan from the Coates family (Bet365) stood at £170m, so how much now ? £200m?

[Escobarp]

57 minutes ago, Eddie said:

The owner won’t be arsed about it being sustainable, he’ll know that if he can fund it long enough to hit the Prem then he’ll make a fucking fortune because even though it’s only Wigan, any club in the Prem becomes very valuable overnight.

Problem comes if you don’t reach the Prem and either Financial Fair Play says you can’t spend any more (Derby) or your owner decides he can’t spend any more (us). It’s a shit or bust tactic.

He’s going to have to have very deep pockets to reach the prem with them.

Let’s hope he gives it a real bash though and then stand back and watch with glee 

[emus wig]

 Magennis is a bang average league 1 striker can’t see him tearing up the championship who ever they sign . 

[barrycowdrill]

34 minutes ago, Traf said:

In April '21 when the accounts were done, Stoke City's interest free loan from the Coates family (Bet365) stood at £170m, so how much now ? £200m?

He wrote about £120m off and converted the rest in to equity. Exactly the same scenario as us really. Old rich fella who loves the club and bankrolls it. 
 

issue there being they’re not even looking to cut costs so it’ll spiral again then when he pegs it the daughter / family will call it in

all sounds really familiar… 

[Rizlar]

Crowds are down at stoke as well 

[radcliffe white]

3 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

Crowds are down at stoke as well 

Since they dropped out the premiership

25, 22 and 20k this season 4th highest in the league so not shabby 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

On a similar theme...

 

[Traf]

2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

On a similar theme...

 

Lovely stuff.

[Rudy]

Far too much talk on here about shit clubs 

[paulhanley]

2 hours ago, Rudy said:

Far too much talk on here about shit clubs 

Maybe we need a shit local clubs thread. With the possible exception of PNE they all hate us anyway. Not like its going to damage relationships!

[Mantra]

Honestly hope we do become a bit of a selling club under Sharon because it'll mean she will be at the helm for longer as the club will be sustainable. If not, she'll sell us on, and then you're at the whim of a new unknown entity, which could be a roaring success or a total failure. So if we do sell our bright talents in future, although it'll be disappointing I think it's for the greater good.

I feel very safe and comfortable with Sharon running the club even if she hasn't got the deepest pockets. If she can do transfer business even half as good as Brentford did, then BWFC would be a sustainable, possibly even profitable business for the mid-long term. That would mean no reason for Sharon to leave and we'd have a club that's not in the middle of the Championship merry-go-round of owners using the shit or bust tactic.

[paulhanley]

44 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Honestly hope we do become a bit of a selling club under Sharon because it'll mean she will be at the helm for longer as the club will be sustainable. If not, she'll sell us on, and then you're at the whim of a new unknown entity, which could be a roaring success or a total failure. So if we do sell our bright talents in future, although it'll be disappointing I think it's for the greater good.

I feel very safe and comfortable with Sharon running the club even if she hasn't got the deepest pockets. If she can do transfer business even half as good as Brentford did, then BWFC would be a sustainable, possibly even profitable business for the mid-long term. That would mean no reason for Sharon to leave and we'd have a club that's not in the middle of the Championship merry-go-round of owners using the shit or bust tactic.

That's all correct and sustainability partially comes from sales and use of proceeds. 

The one thing I'd add is that if/when Sharon does decide to sell, she'll be incredibly picky about to whom she passes the club on to. She's motivated by far more than profit and won't want her legacy tarnished by a messy sale to a bad successor.

[burnden]

https://fb.watch/cPyM0P4WJ6/

Iles talking about Iredale to Cambridge Journo

[Mantra]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

That's all correct and sustainability partially comes from sales and use of proceeds. 

The one thing I'd add is that if/when Sharon does decide to sell, she'll be incredibly picky about to whom she passes the club on to. She's motivated by far more than profit and won't want her legacy tarnished by a messy sale to a bad successor.

I would've thought the same about Eddie not wanting to tarnish his legacy but that didn't turn out too well...

I do agree with you but not sure how picky you can really be. Timing is a big factor

[Morizio]

Fossey being signed rumours are growing 

[Chrisj]

3 minutes ago, Morizio said:

Fossey being signed rumours are growing 

Where is this from

[paulhanley]

1 hour ago, burnden said:

https://fb.watch/cPyM0P4WJ6/

Iles talking about Iredale to Cambridge Journo

The Cambridge journo answers a lot of our questions about the positions he's able to play in and which of them he excels in. In summary he's more of a defensive than attacking LB but is far from incapable in the latter. He didn't do much CB work until this season - he did it quite a lot in 21/22 and to good effect, both in a two and a three.

[Mounts Kipper]

14 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

The Cambridge journo answers a lot of our questions about the positions he's able to play in and which of them he excels in. In summary he's more of a defensive than attacking LB but is far from incapable in the latter. He didn't do much CB work until this season - he did it quite a lot in 21/22 and to good effect, both in a two and a three.

Sounds like a left footed Gethin Jones.