27 storey tower block gone up. I've never seen anything like it. Hope and prayers to all involved... appears to be families etc.

 

Hope everyone gets out, would be amazed- but fear the worst.

 

Apparently gas works taken place... hopefully nothing more sinister.

Possible fridge exploding... 200 families in there. Luckily many people awake due to Ramadan

Looks awful. Hope everyone's okay.

Fuck me, what a nightmare. 

 

Be very surprised if there aren't triple figure fatalities. Hope to fuck I'm wrong.

Unbelievable how it spread through the whole block.

 

Never seen something like that.

 

Shocking.

Jesus that looks awful

This is going to be awful...RIP

Poor people. Apparently the fire alarm didn't go off in the landlord areas, following a refurb 3 months ago.

 

RIP

Bloody hell that looks terrible.

 

I know they have to but those water cannons look as much use as taking a piss on a bonfire.

 

Hopefully no fatalaties

not having a good time of it lately our friends in the capital

 

awful :-(

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Bloody awful, couldn't think of a worse way to go

The old bloke who kept waving the sheet out of the window and shouting for help, it must be awful after 10 mins but 6 or 7 hours, hope they get him out

Seems like there were warnings.

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/

The intensity and scale of that fire is incredible. Some serious questions to be asked.

horrific. Thoughts go out to all the friends and family and the poor bastards who had to endure that living or dead

Bloke on the radio saying they had been refurbed lately and whatever they had clad the building in just went up. Looking at the pics it certainly looks that way

Yeah my father in law is an insurance loss adjuster and says his money is on the insulation used in the recladding wasn't fire retardant to save money on the part of the contractor.

 

Problem is most contractors of that nature will have limited PI cover of say 5m which won't scratch the surface of this.

 

Building going to have to be demolished in all likelihood

Yeah my father in law is an insurance loss adjuster and says his money is on the insulation used in the recladding wasn't fire retardant to save money on the part of the contractor.

 

Problem is most contractors of that nature will have limited PI cover of say 5m which won't scratch the surface of this.

 

How could either of these be allowed? Building without regulation materials? And not having enough insurance cover?

problem with insurance is what is enough? Something like this is unprecedented and 5m PI cover you would imagine is enough for most eventualities.

This is a truly tragic event. what is worrying is many of these old style flats have been undergoing refurb for the cladding. all the ones in the center of Chester were completed a couple of years back. Hopefully they sort the problem and avoid any further tragedies. 

If it is a contractor using bad materials I hope they get locked up for murder for a very long time.

If that is true, somebody needs a major fucking, especially the Contractor for using non fire retardant material in 2017

This is a truly tragic event. what is worrying is many of these old style flats have been undergoing refurb for the cladding. all the ones in the center of Chester were completed a couple of years back. Hopefully they sort the problem and avoid any further tragedies. 

Most insulation is fire retardant so I would be surprised. What you do sometimes get is a chimney effect in the ventilated cavity between the insulation and the cladding. If no fire barriers are fitted this can cause a rapid spread of fire. Way to early to speculate though on what is a tragic event.

I've only just now seen the photos.  It's truly horrific.

 

We've had a lot of phone calls this morning from concerned residents.  Our tower blocks are bang on with regard to fire prevention, but obviously things will need to be looked at to ensure nothing has been missed.  Most tower blocks have a 'stay-put' policy as most fires would be contained within a flat, but I doubt many people would observe that in the case of a fire.