Guest Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) Oh, and the "Peoples Vote" Correctly termed a 2nd Peoples Vote Wankers Edited November 15, 2018 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: We'll see I'm getting the sense that Theresa has grabbed the middle ground and will secure votes from across a broad spectrum. People will feel it's a better place than before the referendum and want to get on with things. It might all be over now. Do you seriously think she has the numbers? From where? Labour parliamentary Brexiters aren’t even supporting her deal. Talk of at least 80 Tories who won’t. DUP won’t. She needs 80 odd Labour MPs to vote for it. Only way she will get that is a deal with Corbyn. Is that what you are suggesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Oh, and the "Peoples Vote" Correctly termed a 2nd Peoples Vote Wankers Really? I think they have a point. The government have fallen apart, and aren’t fit to make this decision. Need to go back to the people to restore democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moon boy said: TM will have gone by Monday, Sajid David will get the job, allthough a Remainer he will be acceptable to both sides of the party, he will ask David Davies to reset the negotiations and go for a ‘free trade agreement’ Canada ++ style, this will carry a majority in the HOC No way are the EU starting negotiations again on the exit deal and this is the stage where we are at right now. From what i can gauge Canada+++ does not address the Irish border question and is more focussed around a trade deal Edited November 15, 2018 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 15, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 15, 2018 9 hours ago, boltondiver said: Notwithstanding that it might cost me a fortune, this is a most exciting and stimulating time. Right in the middle of history unfolding. It's not in the least bit exciting It's fcuking shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 There are about 5,000,000 different versions of BREXIT, not one of them would get a majority in Parliament forget a people’s vote, no time for it and even if there was we should never have a referendum again, it’s far to open to abuse Let parliament decide between.... 1) No deal / crash out in March 2) This deal As the guy from LBC said, it’s a bag of shit but the best bag of shit on the table. The Labour leadership seem’s to think it can agree a deal that gives us all the benefits whilst still leaving the EU. They are as wrong as Boris and Mogg! If I was an MP I’d vote for it and I’m a staunch remainer, the thought of crashing out doesn’t appeal at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 15, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 15, 2018 Indeed This is as good as it gets And still there's clowns reckoning we are going to get something better Utter bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 15, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moon boy said: TM will have gone by Monday, Sajid David will get the job, allthough a Remainer he will be acceptable to both sides of the party, he will ask David Davies to reset the negotiations and go for a ‘free trade agreement’ Canada ++ style, this will carry a majority in the HOC The Withdrawal Agreement is already better than Canada+++ but it only lasts for 2 years. It's not a Trade Deal ffs. It's just an agreement on what happens during the transition period. Edited November 15, 2018 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Jesus, what a cunt Claire Perry is anyone else on question time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, L/H White said: Jesus, what a cunt Claire Perry is anyone else on question time? Just now, L/H White said: Jesus, what a cunt Claire Perry is anyone else on question time? They are all knobs. I went to bed. I include the crowd as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Rabid Brexiteers are killing their own dream http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5630fb56-e8f4-11e8-a9c0-ffbf0f2a8629 Decent piece in the Times sums up where I’m at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Turned over from those gobshites to BBC Two - Surgeons at The Edge of Life. Fascinating - truly admirable folk with nerves of steel, total contrast to those graceless oafs in and around Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: There are about 5,000,000 different versions of BREXIT, not one of them would get a majority in Parliament forget a people’s vote, no time for it and even if there was we should never have a referendum again, it’s far to open to abuse Let parliament decide between.... 1) No deal / crash out in March 2) This deal As the guy from LBC said, it’s a bag of shit but the best bag of shit on the table. The Labour leadership seem’s to think it can agree a deal that gives us all the benefits whilst still leaving the EU. They are as wrong as Boris and Mogg! If I was an MP I’d vote for it and I’m a staunch remainer, the thought of crashing out doesn’t appeal at all Your big assumption is that 600 odd man/woman babies have the ability to compromise. Let's face it, it's not in our DNA. Self-interest is the priority. Edited November 16, 2018 by jayjayoghani You're your dickhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, L/H White said: Jesus, what a cunt Claire Perry is anyone else on question time? Saw it, she lost the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Sweep said: So you've changed your mind again, and now want a "no deal" scenario? Now look, if this was a few of the others on here, I'd be saying 'I know that you may struggle to grasp this concept but, you seem to be having trouble distinguishing between what I would like to see happen and what I believe will happen'. Yes, I would prefer a clean break now. When I hear Tusk end a sentence with '....and, of course, we are very prepared for no Brexit' with a smug grin on his face then I fear the game of negotiation is up and the only way to wipe the smirk off his face is to pull the pin. They will then know that we are serious - at the moment it is they who think they hold all the cards and the reason for this is the stupid twats who vociferously campaigned for 'No deal' to be taken out of the equation thereby hobbling our primary negotiating card. What I believe will happen is completely different. I believe a deal will be arrived at by hook or by crook because most of all it is the EU's interest (with their substantial favourable trade imbalance) and will therefore prove that MK has been right all along. Of course, you're a bright lad and will have no trouble in understanding where I am at with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 hours ago, gonzo said: He moves the goalposts more than dougie freedman ...and you are brighter than that too. Read above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Spider said: She'll be gone by tomorrow If that lizard Mogg gets the job I'm moving to Australia. If Boris gets it, I'm buying a skipful of popcorn and getting ready for the best 6 months of dark comedy this country has ever seen. ...and I will assist you wherever I can mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: Really? I think they have a point. The government have fallen apart, and aren’t fit to make this decision. Need to go back to the people to restore democracy. A few issues Many will not understand, or be willing to commit the time/effort to understanding, the deal. How many of those screeching for a 2nd referendum (that's what it is) voted to leave? Not many would be my assessment. It is about staying in, delaying. Edited November 16, 2018 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, bolty58 said: Now look, if this was a few of the others on here, I'd be saying 'I know that you may struggle to grasp this concept but, you seem to be having trouble distinguishing between what I would like to see happen and what I believe will happen'. Yes, I would prefer a clean break now. When I hear Tusk end a sentence with '....and, of course, we are very prepared for no Brexit' with a smug grin on his face then I fear the game of negotiation is up and the only way to wipe the smirk off his face is to pull the pin. They will then know that we are serious - at the moment it is they who think they hold all the cards and the reason for this is the stupid twats who vociferously campaigned for 'No deal' to be taken out of the equation thereby hobbling our primary negotiating card. What I believe will happen is completely different. I believe a deal will be arrived at by hook or by crook because most of all it is the EU's interest (with their substantial favourable trade imbalance) and will therefore prove that MK has been right all along. Of course, you're a bright lad and will have no trouble in understanding where I am at with it. I’ve believed all along that we would have to carry out our no deal threat to get the best deal from the EU. Unfortunately we’ve not got the leader that is brave enough to actually carry out the threat. In any event I’m still of the opinion we can gain further concessions from the EU if the government show resolve or the deal on the table fails to get through parliament. Folk need to keep calm, stop flapping and let this process take its full course. We will get a deal and I’m predicting a better deal than is currently on the table. Edited November 16, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, leigh white said: Saw it, she lost the plot. Yes I watched it. I think I would. Claire Perry that is. Edited November 16, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 16, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’ve believed all along that we would have to carry out our no deal threat to get the best deal from the EU. Unfortunately we’ve not got the leader that is brave enough to actually carry out the threat. In any event I’m still of the opinion we can gain further concessions from the EU if the government show resolve or the deal on the table fails to get through parliament. Folk need to keep calm stop flapping and let this process take its full course. We will get a deal and I’m predicting a better deal than is currently on the table. Clueless as ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Casino said: Indeed This is as good as it gets And still there's clowns reckoning we are going to get something better Utter bull That’s what the EU want the British public believe and I’m suprised you have swallowed it hook line and sinker. Thankfully there are plenty of folk who haven’t. Edited November 16, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 8 hours ago, L/H White said: Jesus, what a cunt Claire Perry is anyone else on question time? I agree. She was horrific. From the moment she rambled on in a shrill voice for too long and Dimbleby tried to give someone else a chance and she said "I know you don't like women speaking" I took an instant dislike to her. She didn't seem to realise that nobody wanted to hear her blaming the Labour party for a Tory made mess. Glad she was jeered for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: That’s what the EU want the British public believe and I’m suprised you have swallowed it hook line and sinker. Thankfully there are plenty of folk who haven’t. So are you expecting the negotiations will start afresh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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