Politics

[Sweep]

Just heard an interesting discussion on the radio, talking about how UK will probably not look to sign a trade deal with the US as things stand, and they'll leave that until they've built up deals with the CANZAC countries. Reason being that whilst China and US are in a trade war, we don't/won't want to be seen to be picking sides. Hopefully China/US issues can be resolved in the next year or two, and then we can happily trade with both freely. It's thought signing a trade deal with one, might hinder the ability to freely trade with the other in the short term, which makes sense, and let's be honest, it'd be difficult to know which of these two superpowers you want to deal with, as in reality we need both of them equally.

Now we're getting to the business end of this, it's getting quite interesting (if you're into that sort of thing, I appreciate for your average man on the street, it's dull and means nothing to them)

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

A nice shiny new trade deal with the nips is great news. Assume it'll relax the car plants a bit?

Not sure how much better than the EU one it is, mixed reports all over so best ignored and see what the end result is.

It's what we voted for. Pioneers like me & Miami & Bolty

To be honest, it doesn't need to be any better in reality, just as long as it's not worse, because that wouldn't be great. I'd be happy with it being the same, as I'm sure most would. I bet those nips are loving that fact that Melton Mowbray pork pies are going to be tariff free

[Spider]

I'm just off over to Twitter to see whether Terry Christian has burst his spleen yet, will let you all know.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

I'm just off over to Twitter to see whether Terry Christian has burst his spleen yet, will let you all know.

Fingers crossed

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

A nice shiny new trade deal with the nips is great news. Assume it'll relax the car plants a bit?

Not sure how much better than the EU one it is, mixed reports all over so best ignored and see what the end result is.

It's what we voted for. Pioneers like me & Miami & Bolty

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[miamiwhite]

11 hours ago, Cheese said:

When miami starts bringing up personal stuff and pointing at something completely irrelevant, he knows he's already lost the argument. What utter shit house behaviour.

Hahahahaha

[miamiwhite]

48 minutes ago, Spider said:

A nice shiny new trade deal with the nips is great news. Assume it'll relax the car plants a bit?

Not sure how much better than the EU one it is, mixed reports all over so best ignored and see what the end result is.

It's what we voted for. Pioneers like me & Miami & Bolty

And our shares are doing pretty well too Ginge with the main event knocking on the door , boom indeed.

Nice to see you back on the winning side 👍 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

slightly off topic, but 6.6% growth in July is good news. October looks like seeing the start of more unemployment, so anything positive beforehand is a boon.

[Escobarp]

Starting from a artificially low position so was always going to be that level of increase. But as you highlight this is the calm before the storm and that’s without a second lockdown. End of furlough = huge numbers of newly unemployed sadly 

[Spider]

November will be awful. I know loads of people on standby for redundancy. Loads.

Good people too, smart, well qualified types who are genuinely preparing to take any work they can get.

Might be some very overskilled baristas about soon. And I'm not joking.

[Sweep]

12 minutes ago, Spider said:

November will be awful. I know loads of people on standby for redundancy. Loads.

Good people too, smart, well qualified types who are genuinely preparing to take any work they can get.

Might be some very overskilled baristas about soon. And I'm not joking.

another of our customers today has announced that 30 of their staff (around 40% of them) are to be made redundant shortly, they're keeping them furloughed as long as possible, then will let them go. They're into facilities management, and as our contact said "Of there is no fucker in the buildings, they don't need managing" - the majority of those they're letting go are the fitters/installers as they see that side of their business completely dropping off for the next 12-24 months. Grim

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 hours ago, Escobarp said:

Starting from a artificially low position so was always going to be that level of increase. But as you highlight this is the calm before the storm and that’s without a second lockdown. End of furlough = huge numbers of newly unemployed sadly 

I'm still a little surprised by the amount though. Obviously some restrictions were lifted, but loads of places still not fully operational. 

I'm curious to know how exactly the increase was measured, as a lot of the money spent would have been furlough cash.

[Boby Brno]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm still a little surprised by the amount though. Obviously some restrictions were lifted, but loads of places still not fully operational. 

I'm curious to know how exactly the increase was measured, as a lot of the money spent would have been furlough cash.

I see a lot of people in the course of my business. Almost everyone I’ve met has a different story and experience. People have been spending their money in different ways whether furloughed, in work or even redundant. Mainly on the house & garden. Where people were spending £2000 on a holiday, they are spending it on home improvements.  I’m in the same boat. Saving on holidays but spending on home improvements. Bad news for the travel industry but other businesses are benefiting. Spending in the UK rather than abroad could give an artificial boost to the economy. All good in the short term but hopefully there will still be a travel industry as we know it when things get back to normal. 

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

I see a lot of people in the course of my business. Almost everyone I’ve met has a different story and experience. People have been spending their money in different ways whether furloughed, in work or even redundant. Mainly on the house & garden. Where people were spending £2000 on a holiday, they are spending it on home improvements.  I’m in the same boat. Saving on holidays but spending on home improvements. Bad news for the travel industry but other businesses are benefiting. Spending in the UK rather than abroad could give an artificial boost to the economy. All good in the short term but hopefully there will still be a travel industry as we know it when things get back to normal. 

We’ve never been busier. Home improvements entirely the cause.

The cliff edge awaits though in November, we’re expecting a real slide.

[buckhurstwhite]

7 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

And our shares are doing pretty well too Ginge with the main event knocking on the door , boom indeed.

Nice to see you back on the winning side 👍 

What share was that? Your 88E turned in to a flop, but I'm still in. What's your view on it now?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Can well imagine Boby. Garden centres and suppliers short of products this year. Some down to lack of availability from manufacturers, and some purely because of demand.

At one time, i went to 3 places just for a big of compost for one customer.

Mahers up Morris Green have been snowed under, even during what is normally a quieter period.

[Boby Brno]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Can well imagine Boby. Garden centres and suppliers short of products this year. Some down to lack of availability from manufacturers, and some purely because of demand.

At one time, i went to 3 places just for a big of compost for one customer.

Mahers up Morris Green have been snowed under, even during what is normally a quieter period.

Talking of shortages, I ordered an acrylic case about 2 months ago. Still waiting. The whole world is buying acrylic sheets. Can’t imagine why.

Trying to predict how this pandemic is going to affect the economy is a little bit tricky.

[miamiwhite]

33 minutes ago, buckhurstwhite said:

What share was that? Your 88E turned in to a flop, but I'm still in. What's your view on it now?

ODX.

I did very well on 88e, all about pulling out at the right time isn't it ?

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Boby Brno said:

I see a lot of people in the course of my business. Almost everyone I’ve met has a different story and experience. People have been spending their money in different ways whether furloughed, in work or even redundant. Mainly on the house & garden. Where people were spending £2000 on a holiday, they are spending it on home improvements.  I’m in the same boat. Saving on holidays but spending on home improvements. Bad news for the travel industry but other businesses are benefiting. Spending in the UK rather than abroad could give an artificial boost to the economy. All good in the short term but hopefully there will still be a travel industry as we know it when things get back to normal. 

same here mate, absolutely flooded with work

[leigh white]

17 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

same here mate, absolutely flooded with work

Going back to repairs ? ☺️

[miamiwhite]

6 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Going back to repairs ? ☺️

Not me mate, all full reroofs, absolutely snowed under with them.

[buckhurstwhite]

22 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

ODX.

I did very well on 88e, all about pulling out at the right time isn't it ?

Aye it is got in at the wrong time, looked good at the time thou. 

Anyway you need any help with any work down south?

 

[leigh white]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Not me mate, all full reroofs, absolutely snowed under with them.

Whoosh. ☺️

[miamiwhite]

Just now, leigh white said:

Whoosh. ☺️

not a whoosh, I just don't entertain banal bravado from inbred Wiganers 😆 

I'm on the choo choo tomorrow if you're around pal ? Think I'm on the 10-25

[miamiwhite]

2 minutes ago, buckhurstwhite said:

Aye it is got in at the wrong time, looked good at the time thou. 

Anyway you need any help with any work down south?

 

aye, it did well the other year, still chances yet though pal.

I'm only working locally at the moment to be honest, we're too good for working down south 💣 😄