Politics

[Casino]

Ahh, so that's bozos game

[Casino]

To honour the GFA, the island of Ireland has to be treated as a whole 

Which is why Brexit will lead to the break up of the UK

Us visionaries pointed it out way back

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

To honour the GFA, the island of Ireland has to be treated as a whole 

Which is why Brexit will lead to the break up of the UK

Us visionaries pointed it out way back

And to be fair to those who voted for Brexit, they really don't care, and that incudes Boris.

[Spider]

27 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

They are still hoping Brexit will be reversed as does major, Blair, and the rest of the assorted shithouses. 

Absolute goose shit.

They know we’re leaving, everyone knows we’re leaving.

But Boris just keeps fucking around with it, like it’s one of his shag pieces.

Bottom line is, the negotiations are falling to bits and this 3 minute TV dinner he promised us is several pages of Mills and Boon.

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Spider

[tyldesley_white]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

Absolute goose shit.

They know we’re leaving, everyone knows we’re leaving.

But Boris just keeps fucking around with it, like it’s one of his shag pieces.

Bottom line is, the negotiations are falling to bits and this 3 minute TV dinner he promised us is several pages of Mills and Boon.

 

 

[Spider]

Boris is so shit, he made Ed fucking Milliband look world class this afternoon.

#Depths

[Farrelli]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Boris is so shit, he made Ed fucking Milliband look world class this afternoon.

#Depths

EM ripped him a new one. Boris sat there squirming in his seat looking clueless. “I know you’re a details man” 😅excellent !

Edited September 14, 2020 by Farrelli

[emus wig]

Heard someone say he looked like a deflated space hopper. 

[Mounts Kipper]

Boris bill allows goods and services to flow freely across the four U.K. nations after we leave single market.  Why wouldn’t anyone vote for that? 

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Boris bill allows goods and services to flow freely across the four U.K. nations after we leave single market.  Why wouldn’t anyone vote for that? 

:lol:.

If it’s that simple, why wasn’t it in the oven ready deal to start with?

Why is Boris openly admitting to breaking the law?

Try harder Mounts

[Escobarp]

8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

That fat SNP fella Ian Blackford is my favourite MP at the moment, everytime he gets up in the HOC the groans get louder, and he Loves Scotland and the EU but hates the UK, Cheese stated we are living in clown world, we certainly are with this fella, straight out of Billy Smarts big top.

Tell you what if Covid gets a grip of him he won’t see longer than a couple of days out. Horrible disgusting specimen.

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, Escobarp said:

Whereas in reality you don’t actually know. But let’s not worry about that

 

 Have a good one 👍🏼

Quite far sighted by the commie cunt for once. 'Covered in cow shit' he states. I see it more as the sunny uplands 'well fertilised and set for very healthy future growth'.

Fuck me, the closest I could get to agreeing with that twat.

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, boltondiver said:

They'd rather believe and back EU bureaucrats rather than our elected leaders

Correct. Never, ever any criticism of the EU who have regularly and consistently gone back on their 'word' for political reasons.

Either unwilling or incapable of thinking anything other than what is prescribed by the EU nanny state.

[gonzo]

So if we break this law for our benefit, what will stop the EU breaking laws for theirs?

[Mounts Kipper]

20 minutes ago, gonzo said:

So if we break this law for our benefit, what will stop the EU breaking laws for theirs?

To be frank who gives a shit what the EU do. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Farrelli]

35 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

To be frank who gives a shit what the EU do. 

We should do as they are our biggest trading partners.

We will lose all trust if we decide to override a signed international agreement.

Not just with the EU but all other countries we want to make agreements with.

 

[Mounts Kipper]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

We should do as they are our biggest trading partners.

We will lose all trust if we decide to override a signed international agreement.

Not just with the EU but all other countries we want to make agreements with.

 

This bill is for leverage in the negotiations, and as a last resort, prudent work by the government, when you are dealing with a corrupt organisation like the EU you have to use all the tools available to you. Mind you if Boris had walked away and not signed the treaty we wouldn’t be in this position. Whether he can get this bill through both houses I’m not sure but I hope he does. 

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

This bill is for leverage in the negotiations, and as a last resort, prudent work by the government, when you are dealing with a corrupt organisation like the EU you have to use all the tools available to you. Mind you if Boris had walked away and not signed the treaty we wouldn’t be in this position. Whether he can get this bill through both houses I’m not sure but I hope he does. 

Only one organisation is proposing to renege on a signed international agreement.

Five ex-PM's have said this is potentially very damaging to the UK reputation and standing.

You say this is prudent.  With all due respect that is total nonsense.

 

[Duck Egg]

18 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Only one organisation is proposing to renege on a signed international agreement.

Five ex-PM's have said this is potentially very damaging to the UK reputation and standing.

You say this is prudent.  With all due respect that is total nonsense.

 

It certainly sounds pretty grim.  Genuine question here;

Has there been any precedent for this kind of thing?  You can imagine some Banana Republic unilaterally breaking a signed trade agreement but amongst first world countries has this happened before? 

[mickbrown]

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Quite far sighted by the commie cunt for once. 'Covered in cow shit' he states. I see it more as the sunny uplands 'well fertilised and set for very healthy future growth'.

Fuck me, the closest I could get to agreeing with that twat.

Rent free. You senile old fuck😀

[Farrelli]

15 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

It certainly sounds pretty grim.  Genuine question here;

Has there been any precedent for this kind of thing?  You can imagine some Banana Republic unilaterally breaking a signed trade agreement but amongst first world countries has this happened before? 

Not that I know of.  China and US have had some ding dongs over proposed trading arrangements in recent years but I think that was before any signed agreement was made. 

[Mounts Kipper]

47 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Only one organisation is proposing to renege on a signed international agreement.

Five ex-PM's have said this is potentially very damaging to the UK reputation and standing.

You say this is prudent.  With all due respect that is total nonsense.

 

Ex PMs who are all remain supporters, I believe we should use this bill as a lever to get the best deal we can, it’s well known that the EU ignore WTO law when it suits, we should ignore any law that compromises the U.K. plain and simple.  Doubt it will get through both houses though TBH. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

So if we break this law for our benefit, what will stop the EU breaking laws for theirs?

Make a note mate. They already do. On a regular basis if it suits a political aim of theirs.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 hours ago, Spider said:

::lol::.

If it’s that simple, why wasn’t it in the oven ready deal to start with?

Why is Boris openly admitting to breaking the law?

Try harder Mounts

Depending upon who you listen to, it sort of was and wasn't. 

As usual with this stuff, its complexity and language leads to a lot of variable interpretation. 

Supposedly, a couple of "get out" clauses which allowed the government to do this is the event of "bad faith" from the eu.

As usual some say they are acting in bad faith some say not.

Some say government in now about to break the law and some (a good number if Peter Lilley's comments were accurate) say not.

All comes down to this good faith business.

Whether it will lead to litigation, who knows. Personally, I reckon sense will prevail, a deal will be agreed and the bill will pass into irrelevance. 

[bolty58]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Ex PMs who are all remain supporters, I believe we should use this bill as a lever to get the best deal we can, it’s well known that the EU ignore WTO law when it suits, we should ignore any law that compromises the U.K. plain and simple.  Doubt it will get through both houses though TBH. 

As always, straight to the point.

I cringe when they wheel out Little and Large. Bliar and the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer in living memory. The latter was also a lame duck prime minister.

The unpatriotic, trough swilling (b)leaders of the remain side would do well to keep these two clowns away from their sphere of influence as I am convinced that it actually assists the leave movement by turning people away from their side of the debate.