Politics

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Was it intended to be a political union? That’s a genuine question as well mate. I just thought it was a trading bloc that had morphed into something very different?

We were conned into thinking it was something it wasn’t 

 

[Nowack]

4 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

We were conned into thinking it was something it wasn’t 

 

By our Government, that'll never happen again. 

[Sweep]

24 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

We were conned into thinking it was something it wasn’t 

 

Who conned you?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Who conned you?

I wasn’t old enough to vote, cheeky sausage

[Guest]

A common complaint from those who voted to remain in the EEC in 1975 is that they were hoodwinked - they thought they were voting for a trading arrangement but ended up with a bossy "superstate". 

This is not entirely true. Sovereignty - the ability to run our own affairs - was very much an issue in the 1975 referendum.

[miamiwhite]

3 hours ago, Farrelli said:

No they don't - this is a bit out of date but not too far off

I'm seeing a big IF word there again Desperate Dan.......you're a bit shit at this game aren’t you ? 💣 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

46 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

https://facts4eu.org/news/2020_sep_eu_in_default#

I did wonder when the "good faith" aspect would come up. Briefly mentioned the other day, but little of it. If it went down the legal route, this would be difficult to prove I would guess.

Not a pleasant situation whatever the rights and wrongs are.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

A common complaint from those who voted to remain in the EEC in 1975 is that they were hoodwinked - they thought they were voting for a trading arrangement but ended up with a bossy "superstate". 

This is not entirely true. Sovereignty - the ability to run our own affairs - was very much an issue in the 1975 referendum.

From the BBC

[Guest]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/no-boris-is-not-breaching-the-rule-of-law-here-s-why/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[emus wig]

Is Dominic Cummins Mrs still writing for the spectator?

[Spider]

35 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/no-boris-is-not-breaching-the-rule-of-law-here-s-why/amp?__twitter_impression=true

So standing in the HoP and saying “We’re knowingly breaking the law so fuck you, you irrelevant proletariat skidmarks” was just a bit of a giggle that Hansard will record as a wind up?

[Cheese]

On 03/09/2018 at 20:40, Cheese said:

We will crash out with no deal, as has been the plan since Article 50 was triggered, because a "deal" is not possible. The EU will be blamed (already is being)..

^ 2 years and 1 week ago.

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Cheese

[Winchester White]

48 minutes ago, Spider said:

So standing in the HoP and saying “We’re knowingly breaking the law so fuck you, you irrelevant proletariat skidmarks” was just a bit of a giggle that Hansard will record as a wind up?

Cummings must be fucking livid with him.

Oh and if folk didn't realise, the world works in a big fish little fish fashion. There is a reason the big fish can bend or even break international law and sprats cannot.

Politics, eh?

Still waiting on the German car manufacturers to bail us out... and us who think Brexit is a bit daft are the naive ones?

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

So standing in the HoP and saying “We’re knowingly breaking the law so fuck you, you irrelevant proletariat skidmarks” was just a bit of a giggle that Hansard will record as a wind up?

S...could I please ask why you are invested in a shares company which is government backed when you  try to large it on here re your anti government guff a thousand times daily ?

Surely, if you have no trust in such a government, then you wouldn't invest in a company backed by that said government  !

Purely asking for a puzzled friend

[leigh white]

15 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

S...could I please ask why you are invested in a shares company which is government backed when you  try to large it on here re your anti government guff a thousand times daily ?

Surely, if you have no trust in such a government, then you wouldn't invest in a company backed by that said government  !

Purely asking for a puzzled friend

If I was Spider, I would give you a Gavin Williamson response and say " Shut up and go away "😃

[Ani]

2 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

Not a clue what he's on about, proper Law speak, but if he says there's no breach of law, fair enough, all is good in love and war 😁

So the Govt minister who said it would be was lying ? In fact lying to Parliament. 
 

 

[Cheese]

11 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

S...could I please ask why you are invested in a shares company which is government backed when you  try to large it on here re your anti government guff a thousand times daily ?

Surely, if you have no trust in such a government, then you wouldn't invest in a company backed by that said government  !

Purely asking for a puzzled friend

When miami starts bringing up personal stuff and pointing at something completely irrelevant, he knows he's already lost the argument. What utter shit house behaviour.

Edited September 11, 2020 by Cheese

[bolty58]

21 hours ago, Sweep said:

Have we balls

You and the others who have commented similarly probably weren't around when it first happened.

A trading bloc - not a political experiment in forming a unified Europe governed by faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. Balls and bollocks to you lot. 

[Boby Brno]

 

[mickbrown]

Ourdeal? Ordeal or our deal?

[mickbrown]

Oh, and good news at last 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

You and the others who have commented similarly probably weren't around when it first happened.

A trading bloc - not a political experiment in forming a unified Europe governed by faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. Balls and bollocks to you lot. 

I get that, but we've voted in successive Governments during that time who have been happy enough it seems, especially, as far as I can tell, they've happily voted on and agreed most everything that's been implemented and led us to where we currently are. So have Brussels pushed us around for the last 40 years because we've been too weak as a nation to push back until now?

Edited September 11, 2020 by Sweep

[Sweep]

49 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

 

Good News, let's hope there's more to come. Apparently this deal will increase the UK GDP by around 0.07% over the next 15 years, so we'll need a few more deals I fancy, but at least it's a start, and hopefully this deal can be used as a template for others.

The article does make me smile how it's good for Melton Mowbray Pork Pies and Cornish Pasty exports 😀 - still, better than nothing, and it's a start, as at least it's with a major trading nation

[Tonge moor green jacket]

37 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Good News, let's hope there's more to come. Apparently this deal will increase the UK GDP by around 0.07% over the next 15 years, so we'll need a few more deals I fancy, but at least it's a start, and hopefully this deal can be used as a template for others.

The article does make me smile how it's good for Melton Mowbray Pork Pies and Cornish Pasty exports 😀 - still, better than nothing, and it's a start, as at least it's with a major trading nation

Let's see if the eu do something similar then. Or maybe our trade with Japan might increase a little bit more.

[Spider]

A nice shiny new trade deal with the nips is great news. Assume it'll relax the car plants a bit?

Not sure how much better than the EU one it is, mixed reports all over so best ignored and see what the end result is.

It's what we voted for. Pioneers like me & Miami & Bolty