Sweep Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: It was always going to be tricky. I don’t believe for one minute what’s been agreed has been done without the consent of the DUP. If it had we would have heard. It’s a big step forward as I see it. Agreed, they don't usually need much of a reason to kick off, so they must be reasonably happy with it. Although, as ever, you'd have to be a bit of a dick to be celebrating before seeing the detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 8, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Sweep said: Agreed, they don't usually need much of a reason to kick off, so they must be reasonably happy with it. Although, as ever, you'd have to be a bit of a dick to be celebrating before seeing the detail Someone hasn't got the memo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 8, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Escobarp said: It was always going to be tricky. I don’t believe for one minute what’s been agreed has been done without the consent of the DUP. If it had we would have heard. It’s a big step forward as I see it. DUP in Parliament now detailing how bad they felt aspects of the withdrawal agreement were, and the fact that these clauses in the internal markets bill were necessary. Seem quite happy now that an agreement has been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweep said: Agreed, they don't usually need much of a reason to kick off, so they must be reasonably happy with it. Although, as ever, you'd have to be a bit of a dick to be celebrating before seeing the detail Aye we’ve no idea what’s been agreed or what it’s cost knowing the DUP. don’t think anyone can celebrate anything until we get a bloody deal agreed. And even then we need to understand what it is. Whatever happens going to be folk happy and some distraught that’s for sure. What a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: Agreed, they don't usually need much of a reason to kick off, so they must be reasonably happy with it. Although, as ever, you'd have to be a bit of a dick to be celebrating before seeing the detail Weren't the DUP in the dd position of wanting us out of the EU, but with no checks on the ROI border or in the Irish Sea? Not sure how they imagined that would work if so In other news, were a little nervous of WTO this end, some of the tariffs we will have to pay aren't good - Not sure if WTO is still on the table or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Brilliant as ever. I think @Spidermay have wrote his script for him with his favourite phrase on the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) This has got to be some Machiavellian shit from Gove. In a blatantly scripted interview, saying Northern Ireland have got "the best of both worlds" by retaining free access to the EU Single Market and the UK internal market - while Johnson is about to come back from Brussels with a suitcase full of tariffs for Great Britain, whether there's a Deal or not. "I've done my bit Alex. How have you got on old chap?" Wouldn't be surprised if he's PM by Valentines' Day. https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-08/brexit-gove-says-northern-ireland-businesses-get-best-of-both-worlds-with-access-to-both-eu-and-uk-markets Edited December 9, 2020 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Sweep said: Doesn't build anything yet does he? - I thought I'd heard that he was setting up in Wales, obviously I got that wrong Don't worry, you didn't imagine it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 9, 2020 Members Share Posted December 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Sweep said: he's happy with absolutely any deal that we sign, or even if we do actually go "no deal" that way he can then claim that he's won........... Blessed are the winners for they shall inherit Perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 9, 2020 Members Share Posted December 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Ani said: I met Maggie a couple of times. Really nice and clever lad. Correct. Smart cookie C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Cheese said: Don't worry, you didn't imagine it. As the trope goes THAT tweet aged well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 Shipping. Something that affects us all. Its already, as I’ve been mentioning, under strain across the globe. British ports in particular have been struggling but just about coping. Fortunately, clearance of EU goods is quick at the moment which has helped to keep this just about from going into meltdown. Its a good job there are no changes happening in about 15 working days oh wait hang on a minute... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55237791 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 hours ago, bolty58 said: Blessed are the winners for they shall inherit Perth Perth, Scotland or one of the others? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider said: Shipping. Something that affects us all. Its already, as I’ve been mentioning, under strain across the globe. British ports in particular have been struggling but just about coping. Fortunately, clearance of EU goods is quick at the moment which has helped to keep this just about from going into meltdown. Its a good job there are no changes happening in about 15 working days oh wait hang on a minute... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55237791 Companies ordering extra prior to end of year, pushing up levels apparently. Hopefully that will help ease some of the anticipated issues later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Spider said: Shipping. Something that affects us all. Its already, as I’ve been mentioning, under strain across the globe. British ports in particular have been struggling but just about coping. Fortunately, clearance of EU goods is quick at the moment which has helped to keep this just about from going into meltdown. Its a good job there are no changes happening in about 15 working days oh wait hang on a minute... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55237791 We had some stuff the other week that was supposed to dock, the backlog is so bad at the minute that the ship had to bob around in the channel for 3 days longer than planned before it could park up and unload. Had it been forced to wait another 24 hours, apparently, they'd have fucked off to Rotterdam to unload and pick up and then returned back to the UK. Shipping is mental at the minute - the volume of stuff coming in is crazy. The main reason is of course because we're coming up to Christmas and CNY, which always have an affect, Brexit does play a part as well, as people (us included) are over ordering, so that we can hopefully beat the potential shitstorm at customs come Jan 1st It's all fun and games with imports at the minute - we've got stuff on the sea at the minute that is due to dock first week of January, that could be fun 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 hours ago, bolty58 said: Blessed are the winners for they shall inherit Perth some shitty Scotch backwater, you're welcome to it 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 Could all have been avoided Im not the only one saying this People who deal with this for a living have been saying it for months. The fact that we’re leaving the EU has been known for 4 years. Successful businesses can’t rely on “hopefully” and “might be” s Shit businesses do. Which is why they tend to be shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Sweep said: some shitty Scotch backwater, you're welcome to it 😁 There’s a cracking brasshouse in Perth (or certainly was a few years back). It’s not all bad. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Spider said: Could all have been avoided Im not the only one saying this People who deal with this for a living have been saying it for months. The fact that we’re leaving the EU has been known for 4 years. Successful businesses can’t rely on “hopefully” and “might be” s Shit businesses do. Which is why they tend to be shit. You’re forgetting the years of screeching and then parliament stopping anything from getting through I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Escobarp said: You’re forgetting the years of screeching and then parliament stopping anything from getting through I assume? Nope That never stopped a deal being discussed. Preparations being made . Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Spider said: Nope That never stopped a deal being discussed. Preparations being made . Ever. How can you Prepare for something that doesn’t exist? Explain that concept to Me Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Spider said: Could all have been avoided Im not the only one saying this People who deal with this for a living have been saying it for months. The fact that we’re leaving the EU has been known for 4 years. Successful businesses can’t rely on “hopefully” and “might be” s Shit businesses do. Which is why they tend to be shit. Well tell that to those ex parliamentarians who did everything they could to scupper the process. Would have been done ages ago if they'd accepted it and got on with the work. This end game bit was sadly inevitable, but the shenanigans previously were unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Nope That never stopped a deal being discussed. Preparations being made . Ever. Utter bollocks. You're talking with your dick out there. EU made it clear that trade talks would not commence until withdrawal agreement sorted. That couldn't happen until parliament grew the fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Escobarp said: How can you Prepare for something that doesn’t exist? Explain that concept to Me Please What, Brexit? Brexit has been a definite since 2016. It was a national referendum and the choice was to leave. From that point, there have been no reasons for conversations to have taken place between the UK and the EU to define a strategy for the implementation of said result. If you think making decisions on a trillion pound deal should come down to 2 people over a fish supper in Brussels 20 days beforehand, I’d suggest you don’t grasp the consequences. I suspect you do really, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 I will add that the Ineos fella hasn’t bothered to see what happens and made a decision anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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