Politics

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, kent_white said:

Thought not. That's why I think Starmer is a good bet at the moment. We just need someone boring, competent and with a decent track record of managing things. 

You said Comrade Jeremy was a good bet.

[kent_white]

20 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

You said Comrade Jeremy was a good bet.

I did. Although like I explained the other day - my views changed over time. 

I still think a Corbyn Labour Government wouldn't have tanked the economy in the way the Tories did. And we might still be in the EU. 

I guess we'll never know now.

[freds dad]

[royal white]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

I did. Although like I explained the other day - my views changed over time. 

I still think a Corbyn Labour Government wouldn't have tanked the economy in the way the Tories did. And we might still be in the EU. 

I guess we'll never know now.

Wasn’t corbyn anti EU? 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, royal white said:

Wasn’t corbyn anti EU? 

He was, even though he caved under pressure from members of his shadow cabinet and give the most lukewarm support to Remin during thr referendum campaign

In any event, we'd left before he even had the opportunity to win a general election

[Farrelli]

Ben Habib (Reform) on newsnight now. What an absolute tool. 

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, freds dad said:

Can you give me the correct address pal? Cheers.

[freds dad]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Can you give me the correct address pal? Cheers.

Send it to me and I’ll make sure he gets it.

[Dimron]

9 hours ago, royal white said:

Wasn’t corbyn anti EU? 

I think he was indifferent, like myself he initially saw Brexit as right wing Tory spat and tried to stay out of it

[Dimron]

10 hours ago, kent_white said:

I did. Although like I explained the other day - my views changed over time. 

I still think a Corbyn Labour Government wouldn't have tanked the economy in the way the Tories did. And we might still be in the EU. 

I guess we'll never know now.

Trouble with Corbyn he was too honest with regards to what he intended to  do if elected... he made a big point that he wanted party manifestos to be legally binding... he lost out to the opposite

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

13 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I think he was indifferent, like myself he initially saw Brexit as right wing Tory spat and tried to stay out of it

He's long been a Eurosceptic

[Sweep]

9 hours ago, Farrelli said:

Ben Habib (Reform) on newsnight now. What an absolute tool. 

He was absolutely terrible. Farage, if he wants to get any traction, needs to stop anybody else from the Party speaking on TV

[Winchester White]

33 minutes ago, Sweep said:

He was absolutely terrible. Farage, if he wants to get any traction, needs to stop anybody else from the Party speaking on TV

 

[gonzo]

https://news.sky.com/story/business-investment-in-uk-rock-bottom-of-g7-nations-for-third-year-in-a-row-13154657

 

Rock bottom of G7 countries.

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

https://news.sky.com/story/business-investment-in-uk-rock-bottom-of-g7-nations-for-third-year-in-a-row-13154657

 

Rock bottom of G7 countries.

Boby will be along to blame Labour any minute now

[BobyBrno]

22 minutes ago, Spider said:

Boby will be along to blame Labour any minute now

Is that not down to Brexit? It was forecast at the time. That’s why I voted remain. How did……

[Sweep]

13 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Is that not down to Brexit? It was forecast at the time. That’s why I voted remain. How did……

@Mounts Kipperwill be along shortly to tell you it's absolutely nothing to do with Brexit 

[Spider]

24 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Is that not down to Brexit? It was forecast at the time. That’s why I voted remain. How did……

Can’t be Brexit. That was the nirvana we were all promised.

Must be Labour and their intransigence 

[BobyBrno]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

Can’t be Brexit. That was the nirvana we were all promised.

Must be Labour and their intransigence 

You should have read the leaflet that the government sent to every home and if you didn’t receive one, it was and still is available on line. No idea who you were listening to.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

46 minutes ago, Sweep said:

@Mounts Kipperwill be along shortly to tell you it's absolutely nothing to do with Brexit 

Given the other nations are largely not in Europe, and that the issues have been going on well before we left, then to lump it on brexit would be simply narrow focused and erroneous. 

There will be lots of factors, but politicians have been bemoaning our lack of productivity for a good while. 

At the same time many an industry has been happy to use cheap, low skilled imported labour to get round investing in productivity.

The Migration Advisory Committee produced a report in 2018 recommending the scrapping of the cap on certain groups.

A good article here as to why.

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/insights/blogs/immigration-law-blog/scrap-the-cap-why-its-time-for-the-tier-2-immigration-cap-to-go

It was adopted later.

Folk can debate ad nauseum about the pros and cons of such an approach but it doesn't seem to have achieved its ambitions.

And this report was also before brexit.

We'll soon see what the intentions are with regards to improving productivity. 

[kent_white]

12 hours ago, royal white said:

Wasn’t corbyn anti EU? 

Yeah he was. And shamefully - he kept his gob shut on it instead of reflecting the views if his party. 

Had he stood on a pro EU ticket - I think there's a (small) chance Labour might have been able to form a government of some sort and we'd still find ourselves in the EU. Massive dereliction of duty and about the time when I lost respect for him as a politician.

[Ani]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

You should have read the leaflet that the government sent to every home and if you didn’t receive one, it was and still is available on line. No idea who you were listening to.

That was dismissed as project fear by Leave. That is who 52% of people listened to. 

[Spider]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

You should have read the leaflet that the government sent to every home and if you didn’t receive one, it was and still is available on line. No idea who you were listening to.

I was listening to patriots when I should have been listening to traitors.

But I’m at peace with it all now. Even Bolty changes his mind these days so I’m in good company.

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

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We'll soon see what the intentions are with regards to improving productivity. 

Sadly, as a nation, we're far less productive in comparison to France and Germany, which are both fairly "similar" with regards to GDP, our productivity needs to improve, but it won't. I'll admit I don't understand how they actually work our productivity, across a nation, but generally we're always behind the likes of Germany and the US, but ahead of the likes of Japan (which always surprises me)

[Ani]

IMO the best money we could 'invest' now to get a good return in the coming years would be to get HMRC a system that is fit for purpose.

Rather than running separate systems for PAYE and self cert for instance. Dealing with them is a nightmare and £bns must just leak out of the system every year. 
 

I am in year 3 of a disputed over payment, every call is an hour waiting for phone to be answered. All been caused by a serious of fuck ups at their end so I have  underpaid/been over refunded. I have asked  nearly 2 years for a breakdown of the amounts so I can confirm the amount , still waiting.