Sweaty Ken

[HomerJay]

8 hours ago, Casino said:

not being precious and not judging but if anything stops me going, itll be shit like last nights antics

and if that makes me a soft arse, so be it

its certainly my excuse not to go to sheffield and watch us get battered

 

agreed. dogshit football is part and parcel of footy. i can live with that.

but the bollocks around owners and fans squabbling is not what i signed up for. and not what i want my lad to get from football.

i dont give a shit if folk dont agree with (or rather just dont like) anderson, last night bollocks does not help anyone or anything.

[HomerJay]

47 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Would he have to go through the fit and proper test again?

even if he did, i see no reason why he wouldnt pass as i am not aware of anything he has actually done wrong.

[darrener]

54 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

We are stuck with him until the time we have money to get rid,  so Yes

By that time there will be nobody left. 

[darrener]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Exactly, the blokes a false economy. 

I don't want to think how many season tickets we will sell next season if this clown is still picking the team. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

10 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

even if he did, i see no reason why he wouldnt pass as i am not aware of anything he has actually done wrong.

That would depend if anything came out as a result of finances being scrutinised. I just don't trust him to be honest. If that's to my detriment then so be it.

And whether he wanted to be bothered.

[HomerJay]

you could say exactly the same about EVERY business owner in the land.

face it,  folk just dont like his face.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

you could say exactly the same about EVERY business owner in the land.

face it,  folk just dont like his face.

His face doesn't interest me. His manner does.

Other business owners don't all make an exhibition of themselves.

This mon seems to relish the turmoil.

[MalcolmW]

21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

His face doesn't interest me. His manner does.

Other business owners don't all make an exhibition of themselves.

This mon seems to relish the turmoil.

A poor club's Mike Ashley!

[jules_darby]

Confession time

ive taken to BWFC Facebook  as a bit of sport in the last couple of days

They stalk here (hi Phi & co) and my word they’re a touchy bunch

Had a belter tonight with one of the Trust committee fellas.....he pretty much threatened suing over my comments on Roger and then blocked me when he had nowhere to go with his (lack of) arguments

I’m too old and too busy for it but crikey it’s entertaining 

[Eavesy]

3 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

Confession time

ive taken to BWFC Facebook  as a bit of sport in the last couple of days

They stalk here (hi Phi & co) and my word they’re a touchy bunch

Had a belter tonight with one of the Trust committee fellas.....he pretty much threatened suing over my comments on Roger and then blocked me when he had nowhere to go with his (lack of) arguments

I’m too old and too busy for it but crikey it’s entertaining 

Speaking of which.

iles should be putting the final touches to that article soon.

maybe he’s got a generic fans catch all title for it aswell?

’causes shock amongst fans’

‘causes anger amongst fans’

‘creates turmoil and faces huge backlash from fans’

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

Confession time

ive taken to BWFC Facebook  as a bit of sport in the last couple of days

They stalk here (hi Phi & co) and my word they’re a touchy bunch

Had a belter tonight with one of the Trust committee fellas.....he pretty much threatened suing over my comments on Roger and then blocked me when he had nowhere to go with his (lack of) arguments

I’m too old and too busy for it but crikey it’s entertaining 

Haha I’ve been having a few words with Phil on one of the Wanderers pages. (I live going fishing on some of them) anyway I’ve asked a few question on the Allanson chap and was told an announcement would be made on Monday (yesterday) however still nothing. 

 

Ill keep on at them, it makes my shift go faster.

 

which page was it Jules? 

[radcliffe white]

i need to come off them pages, started as entertainment now it’s just pumping me up 

All this highlights that we have some incredibly thick people following us 

[HomerJay]

38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

His face doesn't interest me. His manner does.

Other business owners don't all make an exhibition of themselves.

This mon seems to relish the turmoil.

ok, his face, his manner, his cock size - its all totally irrelevant.

i totally agree on the public side things. he has failed massively there... he just is not very good at it. he needs a good spin doctor.

when he started, folk said they wanted more transparency and communication. and now they dont like communication, and they dontbelieve its transparent.

at the end of the day, ken took on one very tough task, and as ive said before, his biggest fuck up was assuming he could make the club turn a profit much quicker.

i guess you could argue, that if he was employed, he could have been sacked for that failure.

but as an owner, you bring in somebody to assist. which i believe he has done?? paul somebody?

Edited January 22, 2019 by HomerJay

[Kane57]

That Simon Nightingale is the worst for it. 

 

Edit - Facebook that is

Edited January 22, 2019 by Kane57

[Traf]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Haha I’ve been having a few words with Phil on one of the Wanderers pages. (I live going fishing on some of them) anyway I’ve asked a few question on the Allanson chap and was told an announcement would be made on Monday (yesterday) however still nothing. 

 

Ill keep on at them, it makes my shift go faster.

 

which page was it Jules? 

I love it.

[Sluffy]

I look at things differently and believe far too much of the clubs dirty washing was put into the public domain by those with an agenda to get Anderson out.

I've said this before and find myself in a small minority on this, but I don't believe it is a reporters job to report ALL the news ALL the time.  Sometimes it is better to delay a while and get both sides of the story before you go public, sometimes it's better for all to hold back a few things.

There's no question at all in my mind that massive amounts of money found there way out of the club under Gartside - did you know or even care he was paid a Directors Salary of £584,000 ten years ago in a season the club lost £8.7 million - but nobody much was fussed about it at the time - yet the mob want to lynch Anderson for taking out LESS in a club he OWNS (Gartside never put anything into the club remember!) in a season where we only lost £4.9 million.

This was taken from a BBC article today -

"There is a view that Bolton are being singled out because of the negative publicity that surrounds them, when other clubs in a similar plight have not been subject to such scrutiny because they have managed to keep their predicament in-house".

Maybe if folk like Iles hadn't been too quick to report on stuff - the majority of which got sorted in the end - some even within a matter of days - then would folk be so incensed as they are now?  How many other clubs have had problems paying players or suppliers - but we never hear about them because their local journalist and ST aren't intent on potting the owner no matter what?

I'm not suggesting censorship or withholding key news, but rather not trying to hammer the nail in Anderson's coffin at every attempt!

Christ a massive song and dance was made about the Winding Up petitions and the loan players going back - but all that was sorted as soon as the money came in and if Vince had not thrown his toys out, we would have paid the first wedge on Doidge as well by now.

How is stirring up all that shite for the sake of a week or so benefitting the club - or wanting an owner who wants to go - go any faster?

The atmosphere is toxic now - who in their right minds would want to buy us now?  Wouldn't it have been better to keep most things behind closed doors, concentrate with the stuff on the pitch  - and who knows, maybe have replaced the manager by now even?

I'm sure shit goes on at other clubs too - it's just it doesn't get reported a fraction as much as our esteemed club reporter joyfully does.

There is a reason for the saying 'No news is good news', you know!

Link to Gartside's Directors earnings for 2008/9 season -

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/10/29/2188218/revealed-manchester-uniteds-david-gill-is-highest-paid

Link to BBC article -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46952512

[jules_darby]

7 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

That Simon Nightingale is the worst for it. 

 

Edit - Facebook that is

That’s the one

”did the protest happen”

bwfc supporters group 

Royal White has done some of the best whaling I’ve ever seen in the last week. It’s like watching an artist at work!

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, jules_darby said:

That’s the one

”did the protest happen”

bwfc supporters group 

Royal White has done some of the best whaling I’ve ever seen in the last week. It’s like watching an artist at work!

Thank you for your kind words  

I will admit I nearly had to call for back up last night, I had smoke coming off my thumbs. 

 

As for that Simon one....what a grade A chopper 

[HomerJay]

6 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I look at things differently and believe far too much of the clubs dirty washing was put into the public domain by those with an agenda to get Anderson out.

I've said this before and find myself in a small minority on this, but I don't believe it is a reporters job to report ALL the news ALL the time.  Sometimes it is better to delay a while and get both sides of the story before you go public, sometimes it's better for all to hold back a few things.

There's no question at all in my mind that massive amounts of money found there way out of the club under Gartside - did you know or even care he was paid a Directors Salary of £584,000 ten years ago in a season the club lost £8.7 million - but nobody much was fussed about it at the time - yet the mob want to lynch Anderson for taking out LESS in a club he OWNS (Gartside never put anything into the club remember!) in a season where we only lost £4.9 million.

This was taken from a BBC article today -

"There is a view that Bolton are being singled out because of the negative publicity that surrounds them, when other clubs in a similar plight have not been subject to such scrutiny because they have managed to keep their predicament in-house".

Maybe if folk like Iles hadn't been too quick to report on stuff - the majority of which got sorted in the end - some even within a matter of days - then would folk be so incensed as they are now?  How many other clubs have had problems paying players or suppliers - but we never hear about them because their local journalist and ST aren't intent on potting the owner no matter what?

I'm not suggesting censorship or withholding key news, but rather not trying to hammer the nail in Anderson's coffin at every attempt!

Christ a massive song and dance was made about the Winding Up petitions and the loan players going back - but all that was sorted as soon as the money came in and if Vince had not thrown his toys out, we would have paid the first wedge on Doidge as well by now.

How is stirring up all that shite for the sake of a week or so benefitting the club - or wanting an owner who wants to go - go any faster?

The atmosphere is toxic now - who in their right minds would want to buy us now?  Wouldn't it have been better to keep most things behind closed doors, concentrate with the stuff on the pitch  - and who knows, maybe have replaced the manager by now even?

I'm sure shit goes on at other clubs too - it's just it doesn't get reported a fraction as much as our esteemed club reporter joyfully does.

There is a reason for the saying 'No news is good news', you know!

Link to Gartside's Directors earnings for 2008/9 season -

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/10/29/2188218/revealed-manchester-uniteds-david-gill-is-highest-paid

Link to BBC article -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46952512

its worse that that, as some of the news reported is frequently missing key facts, and massively speculative. The BEN has been worse than the red tops this season. 

[Kane57]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Thank you for your kind words  

I will admit I nearly had to call for back up last night, I had smoke coming off my thumbs. 

 

As for that Simon one....what a grade A chopper 

He's relentless.

Sadly I'm banned from that group - they don't take kindly to be called out on their shite

[dazl1212]

24 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

i need to come off them pages, started as entertainment now it’s just pumping me up 

All this highlights that we have some incredibly thick people following us 

It's not just Bolton fans, or football fans. It seems to be on every subject on social media. Approximately half of the population of first world, barely seem able to string a coherent statement together. This coming from a guy who's hardly a literary master himself...

The fact that supposedly intelligent people, saw fit to broadcast a load of Tweets into space could be why ET has given us the swerve.

Edited January 22, 2019 by dazl1212

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Kane57 said:

He's relentless.

Sadly I'm banned from that group - they don't take kindly to be called out on their shite

I imagine you know, but did the trust have somebody around at first who was supposed to do their website

It's a shocker

We are still waiting for trust ambassador John McGinlays bio

[Casino]

1 hour ago, jules_darby said:

Confession time

ive taken to BWFC Facebook  as a bit of sport in the last couple of days

They stalk here (hi Phi & co) and my word they’re a touchy bunch

Had a belter tonight with one of the Trust committee fellas.....he pretty much threatened suing over my comments on Roger and then blocked me when he had nowhere to go with his (lack of) arguments

I’m too old and too busy for it but crikey it’s entertaining 

We know how that lot operate

You have to be very careful to keep it accurate

The facts as I see it

Over a week ago the trust stick up a short note

Still Iles doesn't mention it

It's this lack of impartiality that gets me

I'm onto the editor now

[Tombwfc]

1 hour ago, Sluffy said:

There's no question at all in my mind that massive amounts of money found there way out of the club under Gartside - did you know or even care he was paid a Directors Salary of £584,000 ten years ago in a season the club lost £8.7 million - but nobody much was fussed about it at the time - yet the mob want to lynch Anderson for taking out LESS in a club he OWNS (Gartside never put anything into the club remember!) in a season where we only lost £4.9 million.

 

See, I actually think that is worse. Gartside was an employee who was paid a salary by his boss, who was covering the losses. You might as well blame Johan Elmander.

Ken decides who gets paid what (and who doesn't) and he arbitrarily paid himself an amount, and a promotion bonus before he'd paid the players theirs. And he implied on numerous occasions that he hadn't been taking money out of the club, while pleading poverty about not being able to pay others what they are owed.

[Sluffy]

7 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

See, I actually think that is worse. Gartside was an employee who was paid a salary by his boss, who was covering the losses. You might as well blame Johan Elmander.

Ken decides who gets paid what (and who doesn't) and he arbitrarily paid himself an amount, and a promotion bonus before he'd paid the players theirs. And he implied on numerous occasions that he hadn't been taking money out of the club, while pleading poverty about not being able to pay others what they are owed.

To be pedantic, Garside was not an employee, he was a Director.  

My point, which you chose to completely ignore was not everything in every company is rosy but as long as it gets there as soon as it can and no laws are broken or anybody is worse off, then what does it really matter much to the man on the street like you or me?

Isn't it what is on the pitch that we are all interested in?

Maybe if Anderson hadn't been pushed into a bunker type mentality in the first place to feel he had to defend himself all the time from the constant sniping of those who had an agenda against him from the off, then perhaps he would have said less and things might have been sooner mended.  Who knows as he was never afforded that opportunity.  Instead the ST in particular and our esteemed reporter clearly were on the side of Team Dean completely ignoring the fact that he brought no new investment to the club, fixed up the catastrophic BluMarble loan against the clubs assets and took over £1.7 million out of the club in his first year there in so doing -

"Bolton also paid £33,000 a week in 2016/17 in interest charges, partly due to an unusual arrangement with a company called Sports Shield BWFC Limited, controlled by Dean Holdsworth, which charged a Wonga-Tastic 24% interest per annum..." 

That works out at an eye watering £1,716,000 to Holdsworth from the club and that's on top of him being paid the clubs highest wages as the clubs CEO (and people are bitching solely about KA's £525,000 he took in that season accounts?)

http://priceoffootball.com/bolton-wanderers-whats-the-frequency-kenneth/

All water under the bridge now though and people believe what they want to - but that doesn't necessarily mean it is true though.

The atmosphere is toxic, everyone wants him to leave - including himself - and whatever happens he will forever be seen as the Devil by many for ever more.

All I can say is that the vast majority wanted Megson out and were overjoyed when Coyle replaced him.

Moral of the story - be careful for what you wish for, you just might get it.