peelyfeet Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Casino said: Eh? This is not about past debts This is about now Old debts get paid through the sale I was trying to briefly explain why there's no money in the pot to continue running a club (like others with gates of 4,000) as RUREADY intimated, without settling the debts via sale first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 someone needs to go and handcuff themselves to the stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 26, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: If the Administrators stated that season tickets are going on sale with the risk of the club going bust half way through the season I would buy one even though I rarely go to home matches. 10000 x say £200 average cost would raise £2 million and keep us afloat for a long time with low wages. Who would buy? I'd get a half season ticket, if it gave some guarantee until new year say. Wouldn't go the full hog though, and I doubt many would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Coventry are paying to rent Brum's ground and getting about 5000 gates so how the fuck are they managing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Accrington survive in League 1 with total outgoings of £3m (including player wages) Its doable but our costs are too high, Business rates etc. But then again, the ground was meant to wash its own face by holding other events, It’s clearly not! Why do we have 150 non playing staff ffs? I bet Accrington don’t have more than a dozen. If the ground can’t wash it’s own face then stop doing all the other shit events, cut the number of staff down and try and get the rates reduced based on it being a single use Football stadium Anyway, that’s all by the by now, fuck knows what all these wankers have been discussing for the past 6 months for a deal to be done Friday then fucked on Saturday Fuck them all, particularly that grubby little wanker Anderson and his family, fingers crossed they get what’s coming to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, birch-chorley said: Accrington survive in League 1 with total outgoings of £3m (including player wages) Its doable but our costs are too high, Business rates etc. But then again, the ground was meant to wash its own face by holding other events, It’s clearly not! Why do we have 150 non playing staff ffs? I bet Accrington don’t have more than a dozen. If the ground can’t wash it’s own face then stop doing all the other shit events, cut the number of staff down and try and get the rates reduced based on it being a single use Football stadium Anyway, that’s all by the by now, fuck knows what all these wankers have been discussing for the past 6 months for a deal to be done Friday then fucked on Saturday Fuck them all, particularly that grubby little wanker Anderson and his family, fingers crossed they get what’s coming to them 150? How many folk work on matchday That'll be pushing 50 Hotel staff Can easily see how it gets to that number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 26, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said: Its got to relate to the Bassini case surely I'm stumped at this. Anderson case with Bassini, but he wants someone else to pay his court costs? Kinell, doesn't sound confident of winning the astronomically subhuman CUNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: I was trying to briefly explain why there's no money in the pot to continue running a club (like others with gates of 4,000) as RUREADY intimated, without settling the debts via sale first. It's nothing to do with historic debt All to do with now When less than 5k pitch up for a game in our darkest hour, this is what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 29 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: What? Preferred bidder is irrelevant. Nixon May well be right that others want club . But they need to make an offer. And further, does a new buyer if one exists actually solve the issue? The statement the administrator has put out is hardly conducive to him conducting discussions with other parties Its a gun to the head job He ought to be inviting other parties to come forward There is an alternative purchaser for the hotel Tomorrow Quantuma go back to work , wonder what their administrator will do in light of all this come 5pm if no deal done That's the end of FV for sure - such is the fragility of the deal that Appleton has put together But it might not be the end of the club if he gets his act together I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Now this is what I really don't understand. Some clubs with a full squad manage on crowds of 3-4000 and pay everyone. At the moment we only have 5 professionals and kids so who are all these 150 people and even with the crowd on Saturday why cant we balance the books? Don’t forget, we fucked a game off on Tuesday, I’d have imagined that we would have had 5k on for that and a few more for Saturday (who thought twice after it was cancelled on Monday) Id imagine missing that games cost us £100k, might have bought us another 14 days in admin, might have not But at least the young players have their welfare, even though they might not have a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 26, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Casino said: 150? How many folk work on matchday That'll be pushing 50 Hotel staff Can easily see how it gets to that number Appleton's lot aren't administrator for the hotel though are they, so they won't have responsibility for paying them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Benny The Ball said: The statement the administrator has put out is hardly conducive to him conducting discussions with other parties Its a gun to the head job He ought to be inviting other parties to come forward There is an alternative purchaser for the hotel Tomorrow Quantuma go back to work , wonder what their administrator will do in light of all this come 5pm if no deal done That's the end of FV for sure - such is the fragility of the deal that Appleton has put together But it might not be the end of the club if he gets his act together I Who do you see putting money in if it's not FV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrotter Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Casino said: When less than 5k pitch up for a game in our darkest hour, this is what happens This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casino said: 150? How many folk work on matchday That'll be pushing 50 Hotel staff Can easily see how it gets to that number Hotel separate entity surely so they can’t be included in the 150 who lose their jobs on Tuesday? A lot of matchday staff who work in kiosks are likely paid through third parties such as Heathcoates or an agency Not sure how many of the 150 are genuine full time employees and not just a turnstile operator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 26, 2019 Heathcotes kicked out first job, weren't they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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birch-chorley Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Casino said: Heathcotes kicked out first job, weren't they From the hotel, not sure about ground kiosks, different administrators Any-road, doubt the administrators went out and employed dozens of kiosk staff on part time contracts. Be agency staff the majority of the match-day staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Don't care what people say this is Anderson being a #### he as never forgiven the fans for turning on him and he's doing his best to #### is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Casino said: It's nothing to do with historic debt All to do with now When less than 5k pitch up for a game in our darkest hour, this is what happens So you think if we had higher gates we wouldn't be in the shit, and that the sale price and current negotiation is nothing to do with debts accrued over the last 3 years? I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Surely Anderson doesn't want us to be liquidated because he'd get nothing out of liquidation, or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 26, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said: This. Nah, not having it. Suppose we'd got a full squad in etc. With the money they'd be owed, crowds would have to be many times greater. There are more income streams than just gate receipts. Birch's point above makes sense though, by postponing one game, a chunk of income has been lost. That was done by the administrators too, though in fairness, they won't have seen this sudden change by Anderson coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrotter Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, peelyfeet said: So you think if we had higher gates we wouldn't be in the shit, and that the sale price and current negotiation is nothing to do with debts accrued over the last 3 years? I don't understand. Cost of running the club exceeds income at every level we’ve been at. Little tv money So Gate revenue main source of income. It’s not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 26, 2019 I'm on about the fact we get liquidated in 2 days We have no money and it's nothing to do with paying ex players If you're clawing that if the entry costs were lower we might've found a buyer, then yes, we might But we are currently disappearing cos we xant pay our current costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Someone will blink. It will go down to the last minute but somebody will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Blondi said: Surely Anderson doesn't want us to be liquidated because he'd get nothing out of liquidation, or am I wrong? You're wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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