Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: haha, yeah, its like saying Liverpool have a had a bad season because they've got less points than last year. They might have yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Apologies if this has already been posted. But the town idiot isn't doing himself any favours today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Shut the fuck up Peston. How irritating is listening to someone interrupt over a webcam feed that has a bit of a delay on it. Ignorant cunt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: They might have yet... I really do wonder whats going to happen to the Prem and Football league when they finally restart, going to be strange - i bet attendances around the world will be massive when fans are allowed back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said: Are we counting school staff as frontline staff ? I'm coming at this from a bit of a selfish perspective but maybe it's a bit wider than that. The vast majority of kids still in schools are those with parents who are "key workers". Those kids are the most likely to be exposed to the virus, they act as a perfect host, stay well, let it multiply and then snot all over everything and so on. Social distancing and the necessary hygiene isn't going to happen at the primary school level, so you've got a number of virus bombs running around potentially infecting staff. There might be a small number of kids and a small number of staff and in theory we are all social distancing etc but one of those staff goes to Tesco and uses a trolley and infects the handle etc etc. Wife is back in tomorrow and although I'm hoping she's actually had the virus we don't know and I'll have to hold my hand up and say I'm uncharacteristically worried about her. I'd say yes but not first priority. NHS staff are 1st priority. Those that enable them going to work like teachers etc are second IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, ZicoKelly said: He's a furry tit cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, peelyfeet said: I really do wonder whats going to happen to the Prem and Football league when they finally restart, going to be strange - i bet attendances around the world will be massive when fans are allowed back Can’t imagine the Reebok being packed to the rafters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted April 2, 2020 Author Members Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Apologies if this has already been posted. But the town idiot isn't doing himself any favours today. There’s a reason he’s a boxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: For Casino and others with an open and inquisitive mind; https://conservativewoman.co.uk/if-the-virus-is-so-bad-why-are-european-death-rates-down What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe him over the mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe him over the mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? Hang on, he put it out there for perusal. He didn't trumpet it as gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe him over the mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? Quote Secondly, because almost all those who die with Covid-19 have serious underlying health conditions, meaning many have not so much died of the virus as died of something else while having the virus. This is terrible twisting of the truth. The majority of people who die wouldn't have died when they did were it not for Covid-19. Its like saying having HIV isn't what kills you - it probably isn't its the fact over time your body loses immunity so eventually you die from an innocuous infection in many cases. But if you hadn't contracted HIV you wouldn't have died. Most people who die from Covid-19 will be as a result of organ failure. Or secondary infection. But that doesn't mean they'd have pegged it anyway that day, week or month. Many will die who otherwise would have lived for years, or decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Hang on, he put it out there for perusal. He didn't trumpet it as gospel. ok, treat it as a rhetorical question delivered to the author, which BD might want to answer on his behalf, as there will be a reason why he shared it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Steejay said: See, this thing is bringing out the old softie in us all. 😁 She'll be disappointed Spider didn't ask HBAHT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: I think the above are fair points and so is yours, but what CV has done at least, is sped up their deaths, it's also the case they could have caught another other virus' or virul infection that would have also sped up their deaths. they could but the fact is their deaths have been sped up during a global pandemic of CV and the NHS and health care around the world are struggling to cope with the velocity hence we need to do what we can to curtail the spread, and slow things down, and save some lives in the process e.g. lockdown as said, pricks like that author need to take a trip to their local hospital if they think it's an overreaction Edited April 2, 2020 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe him over the mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? Where have I said I believe it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: ok, treat it as a rhetorical question delivered to the author, which BD might want to answer on his behalf, as there will be a reason why he shared it I put it out for people to debate. Hopefully, that’s OK? And, a few days ago, Casino was asking for insight and data into numbers of deaths, to trying to help him. Edited April 2, 2020 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: I put it out for people to debate. Hopefully, that’s OK? And, a few days ago, Casino was asking for insight and data into numbers of deaths, to trying to help him. of course thats ok - as part of the debate may I ask what did you take away from it? I'm both inquisitive and open minded but can see the massive bias in the way it's written, and it's ignorance as to what is actually happening in the world - the guy who wrote it is anything but open minded, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Carlos Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe him over the mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? Dr Will Jones is a maths graduate with a PhD in political philosophy. Not the kind of doctor you need. Half our office has a PhD, I wouldn't listen to them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Where have I said I believe it? Ok, let me rephrase... What is it about the specific credentials of Will Jones from ConservativeWoman.co.uk, that makes you believe his take is worthy of 'makesuthink' type consideration, given it contradicts a mass of experts worldwide, the governments who have deemed this serious enough to tank their own economies and the front-line health staff who all believe this to be a very big thing indeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: of course thats ok - as part of the debate may I ask what did you take away from it? I'm both inquisitive and open minded but can see the massive bias in the way it's written, and it's ignorance as to what is actually happening in the world - the guy who wrote it is anything but open minded, IMO Of course you may ask. I never had you as anything other than open-minded and inquisitive! Like all of us, I am interested to see if we get out of this in a reasonable place. I am interested in different views and perspectives to see if we could be doing anything better, hence reading different things. It would be interesting to see, for example, if Sweden's more liberal approach pays dividends. Right now, we don't know which approach might work out best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Its definitely not an overreaction, and he is allowed is opinion as long as he is adhering to these semi-Lockdown rules. As far as I'm concerned, the pricks are those that are hanging around the streets fucking about, driving needlessly and idiots all having a bbq and party around each others houses. those pricks probably read articles like those and think it's just a flu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 2, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: ok, treat it as a rhetorical question delivered to the author, which BD might want to answer on his behalf, as there will be a reason why he shared it To widen the range of views available, to look, without previous bias, analytically at an article and determine its validity, accuracy etc? As it is, it seems no one particularly agrees with it, for a range of reasons ( peelyfeet's comments that it is selective in its comparison is telling). Doesn't do any harm though to occasionally look at something in a way you've not previously done- just that in this case it doesn't offer anything which would make me think differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Can’t imagine the Reebok being packed to the rafters! If it’s a fresh season then it should be decent I’d imagine If we have to finish off this season and it’s a non event, maybe not Oxford away the obvious exception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Its definitely not an overreaction, and he is allowed is opinion as long as he is adhering to these semi-Lockdown rules. As far as I'm concerned, the pricks are those that are hanging around the streets fucking about, driving needlessly and idiots all having a bbq and party around each others houses. and articles like this gives them justification to continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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