Coronavirus

[Escobarp]

2 hours ago, Farrelli said:

I remember you also criticised Sturgeon and Drakeford for implementing a short firebreak lockdown in October.  Boris then put England in a longer one a couple of weeks later.

The earlier short lockdowns were definitely the correct measure.

Tell that to people in the 11 council areas housing over 40% of Scotland’s population who are in full lockdown. Or did  you miss that bit?

[athywhite1958]

22 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

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I'd do kids first, the little feckers are all in one space, so you'd rattle through them in no time.

 

Said Jimmy to Gary 😲

[Farrelli]

22 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Tell that to people in the 11 council areas housing over 40% of Scotland’s population who are in full lockdown. Or did  you miss that bit?

I meant for Wales but the point still applies that lockdowns in Scotland and Wales have been effective in controlling infection rates, or did you miss that bit.

[Farrelli]

2 hours ago, boltondiver said:

That was Boris’s call and opinion.

That doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.

[Not in Crawley]

This is from a cultural perspective (incuding music etc) but we've just had the first results from with lockdown about coming back.

Unsuprisingly younger audiences are more confident about coming back, audiences in Wales the least confident across the whole country showing that how lockdown's have been handled impacts on people's confidence. 

Urban audiences much more confident about returning to the live arena, with Londoners the least concerned across the whole country. 

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Insults; always a good swap for reasonable discourse

[Farrelli]

3 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Insults; always a good swap for reasonable discourse

welcome to wways😀 But seriously what do you expect ? If you cannot acknowledge that the earlier lockdowns by Wales and Scotland have been beneficial there is nothing more to say.  The tier system clearly did not work and something more radical was needed.  In the end Boris had to admit this as well and rightly enforced another lockdown in England.

[Escobarp]

26 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I meant for Wales but the point still applies that lockdowns in Scotland and Wales have been effective in controlling infection rates, or did you miss that bit.

If you meant wales why say Scotland as well? Just say Wales. 
 

again I repeat 40% of Scotland population are now in full lockdown. 
 

there remains a further 20% in tier 3 lockdown. 
 

so where is the evidence that the Scottish and Welsh measures have been more effective than the English ones? Because 60% of sccotlands population probably disagree with you currently?

[Escobarp]

12 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

welcome to wways😀 But seriously what do you expect ? If you cannot acknowledge that the earlier lockdowns by Wales and Scotland have been beneficial there is nothing more to say.  The tier system clearly did not work and something more radical was needed.  In the end Boris had to admit this as well and rightly enforced another lockdown in England.

Scotland has a tier system and has had for months  so what radical system in Scotland do you think exists as I haven’t seen it  maybe I missed it whilst living here? 😂🤣. Make your mind up. Do tiered systems work or don’t they and are you talking about just wales again or wales and Scotland ?

[Boby Brno]

31 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I meant for Wales but the point still applies that lockdowns in Scotland and Wales have been effective in controlling infection rates, or did you miss that bit.

The tier 3 restrictions in the North West were more effective than Wales 2 week lockdown.

 

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Scotland has a tier system and has had for months  so what radical system in Scotland do you think exists as I haven’t seen it  maybe I missed it whilst living here? 😂🤣. Make your mind up. Do tiered systems work or don’t they and are you talking about just wales again or wales and Scotland ?

Wales went into a firebreak lockdown, Scotland went into a lockdown before England. BD said this was stupid at the time and I say it has been proved to be the correct decision.  

[Boby Brno]

34 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I meant for Wales but the point still applies that lockdowns in Scotland and Wales have been effective in controlling infection rates, or did you miss that bit.

 

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

 

Yes so even more important that Wales did what they did, closing pubs, restaurants and reducing contacts. Well done Drakeford for taking earlier action.  

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Wales went into a firebreak lockdown, Scotland went into a lockdown before England. BD said this was stupid at the time and I say it has been proved to be the correct decision.  

You are just making stuff up.

Unless you can show evidence that it was the correct course of action. I mean your opinion is valid and I acknowledge that, but it doesn't make it fact.

[Escobarp]

10 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Wales went into a firebreak lockdown, Scotland went into a lockdown before England. BD said this was stupid at the time and I say it has been proved to be the correct decision.  

Scotland has 11 council areas in effective lockdown only since last friday. We have been operating a tiered system like England (differing tiers though) Other than that we went into lockdown at the same time as rest of uk in March. So what is this lockdown in Scotland that happened before England that you speak of?

 

[Farrelli]

5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

You are just making stuff up.

Unless you can show evidence that it was the correct course of action. I mean your opinion is valid and I acknowledge that, but it doesn't make it fact.

Well all the scientists and advisors clearly think differently.

[Escobarp]

Fwiw @Farrellii agree that the measures implemented have worked. But for balance, limited or lesser measures have also clearly worked in other parts of England. A one size fits all approach doesn’t work that is clear. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Well all the scientists and advisors clearly think differently.

All?

Really?

You really are making it up!

 

[Boby Brno]

27 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Yes so even more important that Wales did what they did, closing pubs, restaurants and reducing contacts. Well done Drakeford for taking earlier action.  

The tiered restrictions in England that closed pubs, restaurants and reduced  contacts started earlier than the Wales lockdown and had a better effect. The facts prove that. Well done Boris for taking earlier action. 

[Tombwfc]

4 hours ago, boltondiver said:

to the extent that it has/n't burnt itself out

 

I thought it'd done that in July?

[Burndens Bogs]

5 hours ago, Traf said:

If a family A (6 people) have Family B (another 6) and Family C (another 6) as their enlarged bubble, do Family B get families D & E or just A & D?

If the first bubble is 18 people, but 12 of them are then in other 18 people bubbles, before you know it the whole country will just be one bubble, won't it?

At the risk of being wooshed -

1 ,Family B only get families A+C.

2, You can't be in any other bubbles, Families A,B + C are stuck with each other with no other bubbles permitted for each of them.

That's the way i understand it anyway.

 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

At the risk of being wooshed -

1 ,Family B only get families A+C.

2, You can't be in any other bubbles, Families A,B + C are stuck with each other with no other bubbles permitted for each of them.

That's the way i understand it anyway.

 

Was on the radio earlier and you’re  correct. Bubble is 3 households total not just per day.

But as has been eluded to on here some folk are just cracking on as it it’s a normal xmas so it’s pretty pointless really. 
 

 

[radcliffe white]

Burnham suggesting it’s close between tier 2&3 some encouraging stats are coming out 

[Boby Brno]

Apart from the fact Mrs. B is working, it’ll be a low key Christmas for us. Not going to risk the vulnerable in our extended families (which numbers 3) unless they are vaccinated before the 25th. Planning a big celebration in the spring though.

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

I thought it'd done that in July?

One day someone will uncover how seasonal it is