Coronavirus

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Sunday Telegraph

Is that all over?

I see the chap in charge of Wales has suggested it.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Rearranging school year isn't going to happen, as the government isn't going to reimburse folk who've paid out for a holiday later in the summer.

[radcliffe white]

Also some folk may have used holidays with this furlough malarkey which they would of used in the summer holidays for childcare 

employers will have to be understanding and give unpaid time off 

 

[Escobarp]

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Is that all over?

I see the chap in charge of Wales has suggested it.

Ain’t happening up here. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Ain’t happening up here. 

Aye, old haggis knickers said that some time ago didn't she.

I see just short of 5000 new cases today. Gradually coming down, but still high compared to early in the outbreak.

I would imagine that figure would have to be quite a bit lower before they consider it. Proportionally, I think England has a lot more cases than the others too, which may have an impact. Presumably, that reflects population density.

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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye, old haggis knickers said that some time ago didn't she.

I see just short of 5000 new cases today. Gradually coming down, but still high compared to early in the outbreak.

I would imagine that figure would have to be quite a bit lower before they consider it. Proportionally, I think England has a lot more cases than the others too, which may have an impact. Presumably, that reflects population density.

I don't think the number of new cases is of much, if any, relevance now, as we are testing many more

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

I don't think the number of new cases is of much, if any, relevance now, as we are testing many more

Good point!

Is that reflected on the chart do you know? It would look odd otherwise- a large spike from cases only previously registered in hospital.

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Good point!

Is that reflected on the chart do you know? It would look odd otherwise- a large spike from cases only previously registered in hospital.

If you watch the briefing the right hand column splits it. About 50/50 recently. 

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2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Good point!

Is that reflected on the chart do you know? It would look odd otherwise- a large spike from cases only previously registered in hospital.

For those watching in black and white; I think it is the orange block on the chart

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Traf said:

😉

Very good amendment that sir.

Strangely, on our street, I think we're the youngest family, so not much chance of gangs of grooving gippers girating giddily into the night.

 

[Escobarp]

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye, old haggis knickers said that some time ago didn't she.

I see just short of 5000 new cases today. Gradually coming down, but still high compared to early in the outbreak.

I would imagine that figure would have to be quite a bit lower before they consider it. Proportionally, I think England has a lot more cases than the others too, which may have an impact. Presumably, that reflects population density.

As has been pointed out on here keeping kids apart has been one of the biggest reasons we haven’t been overrun with This virus. Soon as they are put back into school cases will leap. But they need to go to school. It’s another very tough dilemma on what to do for the government. 
 

on one hand people want to go back to normal and that includes kids back to school but on the other hand they cannot accept people will die as a result. It’s brutal but that’s the equation. 
 

number of deaths is a direct factor of The level of freedom/normality we are given. 
 

I think the balance is too far the other way currently and we need some relaxing but we all have to accept now what that means. Despite our best endeavors to avoid contact and getting this virus. It’s going to happen 

Edited May 3, 2020 by Escobarp

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Perhaps we could board them in the schools. Bye kids, see you at half term!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Escobarp said:

As has been pointed out on here keeping kids apart has been one of the biggest reasons we haven’t been overrun with Thai virus. Soon as they are put back into school cases will leap. But they need to go to school. It’s another very tough dilemma on what to do for the government. 
 

on one hand people want to go back to normal and that includes kids back to school but on the other hand they cannot accept people will die as a result. It’s brutal but that’s the equation. 
 

number of deaths is a direct factor of The level of freedom/normality we are given. 
 

I think the balance is too far the other way currently and we need some relaxing but we all have to accept now what that means. Despite our best endeavors to avoid contact and getting this virus. It’s going to happen 

Possibly, possibly not

The extent of freedom some are given. We pretty much know that the death rate is low for most under 60, so we just need to keep the populations apart.

There will be some outlying deaths, but that is the price. That number, I expect, is way less than the number of deaths  we would suffer by maintaining lockdown.

Edited May 3, 2020 by boltondiver

[Casino]

It's dead here

Really, really quiet

[Escobarp]

Just now, boltondiver said:

Possibly, possibly not

The extent of freedom some are given. We pretty much know that the death rate is low for most under 60, so we just need to keep the populations apart.

There will be some outlying deaths, but that is the price. That number, I expect, is way less than the number of deaths  we would suffer by maintaing lockdown.

How may over 60’s do we have on here? Or folk with underlying health conditions? Are they happy about being effectively quarantined whilst the remainder go about a semi normal life? 

[radcliffe white]

2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Lockdown as ended where i live. Every fucker going about there business as normal, roads are packed, country park packed, canal absolutely rammed with cyclists and walkers, no queues at the supermarkets, gangs of youths on foot and bikes, streets stink of chong and some chavs were out spinning on the canal.

And i aint exaggerating.

Going like that this way 

if he did say a further extension it would be pointless 

[Youri McAnespie]

7 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Lockdown as ended where i live. Every fucker going about there business as normal, roads are packed, country park packed, canal absolutely rammed with cyclists and walkers, no queues at the supermarkets, gangs of youths on foot and bikes, streets stink of chong and some chavs were out spinning on the canal.

And i aint exaggerating.

Rode past a takeaway last night, Rishton Lane (not Sue's Chippy) - people packed in waiting to order or for their food.

Just been to Lidl on Derby Street - no-one giving a fuck about social distancing, how I didn't lose my rag I dunno. It made Asda Burnden seem like a Howard Hughes Appreciation Society meets Germophobes Anonymous.

Fucking ridiculous - and these idiots, in both cases, came from all backgrounds, united in twattery.

Edited May 3, 2020 by Youri McAnespie

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

How may over 60’s do we have on here? Or folk with underlying health conditions? Are they happy about being effectively quarantined whilst the remainder go about a semi normal life? 

Andrew Marr this morning- some reference to letting out over 70s more readily if they were fit and healthy. Those at high risk still to be quarantined.

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, Casino said:

It's dead here

Really, really quiet

Same here, not a soul about. Went for a walk earlier, we only saw one other couple

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Andrew Marr this morning- some reference to letting out over 70s more readily if they were fit and healthy. Those at high risk still to be quarantined.

What is for sure. Whatever they do it’s going to be the wrong decision for some depending on how it affects them ultimately in the end. Some it will be wrong because of who’s making the decision. But others will look for someone to blame if they suffer. 
 

it’s a thankless task and they simply cannot do anything that’s going to appease everyone so they need to stick to what they’ve been doing which is what they believe is right. They live and die by that decision ultimately. Really don’t envy them 

[Spider]

Not been out so wouldn’t know what’s going on.

Escobarp is correct though. It’s a balance of economy versus acceptable numbers of deaths/NHS capacity.

Theres no cure or vaccine, but we can’t stay like this forever.

Criticising ANY government with this decision on their hands would be a cunts trick. It’s the stuff of nightmares.

 

[Youri McAnespie]

They might have fuck all to live for but I do...

I should stop 'keeping it real' and move away I suppose.

My house is in a very verdant pleasant part but not far at all from various scumsvilles.

If I moved it'd be away altogether though, so...

[radcliffe white]

2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I would say now that a lot of people are taking no notice, even some neighbours are having their family round, that to me says this lockdown is broken.

I am happy to stay locked down until the end of May or until i an told to do so by our Government, but we do need to start phasing the UK workforce back to work.

Yes my thoughts 

the amount of folk out today was crazy I felt uneasy tbh, apart from when the geezer drowned in the lodge I ain’t seen no police whatsoever around here 

[deane koontz]

Think this is the first briefing i've watched since this started. Not too impressed with the bald bloke throwing gang signs in the corner of the screen.

[Ani]

40 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Same here, not a soul about. Went for a walk earlier, we only saw one other couple

A bit busier than it has been round here but miles quieter than normal. 
To be honest our house is a bit slacker. For example food shopping is 2 to 3 times a week rather than once