jules_darby Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, wiggy said: Fair question and fair point. And I guess that’s why this is so hard. Whoever we listen to is only ever giving their best guess right now. Quite And a great number of mathematicians and virologists wrote to the govt in the past day to explain the flaws in their presented data and to say that community P2 testing is wrong at least 9/10 times. 90% most of those who’ve tested positive are almost certain to be negative. They are introducing these measures on such baseless data. And the outcome is that lives and livelihoods will be lost as a result In my opinion (and that’s all it is) this is unacceptable. It’s not cos I want a beer at 10:05pm, it’s because I think it kills more people in the long run. Quote
gonzo Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, royal white said: Possibly the biggest mistake this goverment has made is putting to much trust into the general public from the start. Or the general public putting any trust in them Quote
mickbrown Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Didn’t watch the main event. How did the sack of shit do? Mumbled like a dick? Quote
Guest Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, jules_darby said: Quite And a great number of mathematicians and virologists wrote to the govt in the past day to explain the flaws in their presented data and to say that community P2 testing is wrong at least 9/10 times. 90% most of those who’ve tested positive are almost certain to be negative. They are introducing these measures on such baseless data. And the outcome is that lives and livelihoods will be lost as a result In my opinion (and that’s all it is) this is unacceptable. It’s not cos I want a beer at 10:05pm, it’s because I think it kills more people in the long run. Quite Quote
Winchester White Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, jules_darby said: 90% most of those who’ve tested positive are almost certain to be negative. Really!? Where did you get that from as that is news to me and I expect many others? Quote
Guest Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Anyway, for reasons known only to the scientists, next spring will be better than this spring Quote
Spider Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, boltondiver said: Anyway, for reasons known only to the scientists, next spring will be better than this spring Well we won’t have the EU sending their Covid over here, taking all our jobs for a start Quote
gonzo Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Didn’t watch the main event. How did the sack of shit do? Mumbled like a dick? Plenty of jingoistic clap trap and fist waving. Its all down to the breaches. Quote
kent_white Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Anyway, for reasons known only to the scientists, next spring will be better than this spring Well we'll be prepared for a start. We'll have the infrastructure to better cope, staff that are trained and have the right PPE, better treatments and possibly (just possibly) a vaccine. We'll be in a much better position come spring (providing the virus hasn't done something crazy while it's made its way up from the southern hemisphere). Quote
peelyfeet Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, jules_darby said: Quite And a great number of mathematicians and virologists wrote to the govt in the past day to explain the flaws in their presented data and to say that community P2 testing is wrong at least 9/10 times. 90% most of those who’ve tested positive are almost certain to be negative. They are introducing these measures on such baseless data. And the outcome is that lives and livelihoods will be lost as a result In my opinion (and that’s all it is) this is unacceptable. It’s not cos I want a beer at 10:05pm, it’s because I think it kills more people in the long run. If 90% of those who've tested positive are really negative, the virus is massively more virulent and easily spread than we think. Quote
Winchester White Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, peelyfeet said: If 90% of those who've tested positive are really negative, the virus is massively more virulent and easily spread than we think. I am sure Jules will be along shortly to back up his claim as it is a game changer if true. Quote
Marc505 Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Some of the responses to Ian Browns tweets are... wow. Just one thing, how are masks the next step towards a new world order please? I thought Big Brother would have preferred faces it can recognise and upload to its mainframe of doom rather than obscured ones? Quote
Cheese Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 "What's the verdict, Doc?" "Your appendix has burst, and we need to perform surgery immediately or there's a good chance you'll contract sepsis, which can be fatal" "Bollocks. My mate down the pub reckons it's indigestion. You're obviously scare mongering, so I'm off home to watch 9/11 conspiracy videos on youtube." Quote
gonzo Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Hope Rishi has got his chequebook ready for the enitre nightclub and late bar industry thats just been pulverised in one foul swoop. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, peelyfeet said: If 90% of those who've tested positive are really negative, the virus is massively more virulent and easily spread than we think. 8 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Really!? Where did you get that from as that is news to me and I expect many others? Absolutely. Need more information on that one. Plenty to drill down into with regard to the pcr test method, and different methods being pushed at the moment, but that figure would be remarkable. Quote
jules_darby Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I am sure Jules will be along shortly to back up his claim as it is a game changer if true. It wasn’t my claim Quote
Winchester White Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, gonzo said: Hope Rishi has got his chequebook ready for the enitre nightclub and late bar industry thats just been pulverised in one foul swoop. Tough shit, tis the new post Brexit way. It is what it is old bean. To be fair, the furlough scheme was good and impossible to continue indefinitely. Quote
Winchester White Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, jules_darby said: It wasn’t my claim Sorry, not your claim but you have posted as though it is fact. You got a link to the info by any chance? Quote
Guest Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Winchester White said: I am sure Jules will be along shortly to back up his claim as it is a game changer if true. He was exaggerating Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, jules_darby said: It wasn’t my claim No, but if anyone is going to use it as justification for a different approach then it had better be correct. Or there might just be another glut of dead folk. Quote
mickbrown Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: Plenty of jingoistic clap trap and fist waving. Its all down to the breaches. Fight them on the breaches? Quote
Rudy Posted September 22, 2020 Author Posted September 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Didn’t watch the main event. How did the sack of shit do? Mumbled like a dick? Quote
Escobarp Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, gonzo said: Its all down to the breaches. He’s right though in that it is. Quote
gonzo Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: Fight them on the breaches? Quote
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