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So disappointed with yesterday but that’s been us for a while now especially at home, there was no difference in getting a draw so why didn’t he throw the kitchen sink at 1-1

trying to stay confident as we’re capable of winning next week but the same time we’ve been poor for a while 

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One of our  problems yesterday was taking the lead too early . Our habit of dropping deep when we go ahead and then trying to hit them on the counter works best for us if we score later in the game , you could see 5 minutes after scoring we got deeper and deeper and with Exeter being a decent side and throwing everything at us they basically overran us , especially after the subs that just seemed to throw the whole balance of the team to shit.

I certainly think we can win next week , it can be argued playing away suits our system best . Forgetting the Grimsby debacle we have had 2 great away wins of late and I see no reason why we can't win next week . It's up to I.E now to lift the players .

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20 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Have no idea how the game actually played out from half way through the second half. Ditched the radio commentary in the car to join the masses. 

Its easy to get carried away and think we’ve bottled it but we haven’t. That lot are a decent team and we’re never going to come and let us have a promotion party.

Its happening. Have to to trust the process. Like Rioch said all those years ago there’s a reason we are in this position. 

As for our fans behaviour, I’m more shocked people are shocked. Stick it on the list with the mountain of other facepalm incidents that have occurred over the years from ransacking Women’s cars and booting rugby balls about to setting fire to pubs. It’s never been any other way.

No idea what the craic was trying to break in ground mind. I’ve spent years trying to break out :)

Have to agree regarding Exeter, decent team, scoring last minute in midweek after looking like they may miss out. They were always going to have a go yesterday, we are not a team of bottlers that’s for sure and even though they deserved to win in the last minute we could have won ourselves if we had defended that free kick . There keeper was up and any sort of clearance may have resulted in a goal.our manager fills me with confidence, he was disappointed like everyone was but as ever he was calm and that calmness is what we need this week. In evatt we trust.

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Could we have changed anything to just not concede for 45 minutes, maybe but it's gone now and we have another chance next week.

Have to try to stay positive while we're still in the mix, really don't fancy play offs though.

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Let’s just all agree to write yesterday off as a bad day at the office and move on to Crawley next week knowing that only a win will do. Actually I wasn’t really surprised at what happened, Exeter were always going to throw everything at us and yet again not killing the game off when we had chances to cost us. That’s history now, forget it. Are we a better team than Crawley? Of course we are. Do we have more to play for next week? Of course we do, so it’s up to the players to prove whether they want it enough.
 

According to Gillo, in our dressing room after the game you could hear a pin drop. That worries me because we needed a character to raise the spirits, crack a joke and get everyone’s chins up, not let them sit around feeling sorry for themselves. I’d like them to be angry about this performance and show a determination to put it right next week, which I’m sure they will. It’s a northern characteristic that when things are bad you make a joke of it and get your chin up so let’s hope we’ve got someone in the camp who can do that. Crawley are going to get battered next week.

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1 hour ago, Rizlar said:

Still pissed off but like previous posters we have been poor recently we have to find a way to score more than 1 goal to make sure we win that said still think we will do it against Crawley coywm .

I agree Rizlar, we do need to score more than one goal. 2 attempts on target in the biggest game of the season, utter shite.

Yet the sanctimonious gang on here have been preaching how it's all we need, well clearly not! 

Funny how many off days we have had recently and lose?, Why are we not set up to have an off day an still grind a result?. Why do all our component parts have to work 100% to win a match, and then only by a single goal.

The margins are so tight every week and Evatt has done nothing to address it. We should be home and hosed by now, we have the resources to have pissed this league.

Evatt's ego in playing his 'brand' of football regardless, and Doyle's inability to offer any focus to our attacks is why we are where we are. Doyle should have been ressted weeks ago, Miller must be really shit!, but 'Doyler' is Ian's pal so go figure.

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The " trouble " seemed to be a few clumsy overweight fuckers tripping up and overbalancing although Peter Kay did his best to sort it out.  Next weeks game needs to be approached with more confidence because Morecambe will probably win so a victory is well within reach. Doubt is the biggest enemy.

As a Wigan fan I hope you make it and think you will. After the 12 months we've just had I now fully understand what you went through.

I wish you well.

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16 minutes ago, JimmyRiddle said:

I agree Rizlar, we do need to score more than one goal. 2 attempts on target in the biggest game of the season, utter shite.

Yet the sanctimonious gang on here have been preaching how it's all we need, well clearly not! 

Funny how many off days we have had recently and lose?, Why are we not set up to have an off day an still grind a result?. Why do all our component parts have to work 100% to win a match, and then only by a single goal.

The margins are so tight every week and Evatt has done nothing to address it. We should be home and hosed by now, we have the resources to have pissed this league.

Evatt's ego in playing his 'brand' of football regardless, and Doyle's inability to offer any focus to our attacks is why we are where we are. Doyle should have been ressted weeks ago, Miller must be really shit!, but 'Doyler' is Ian's pal so go figure.

Don't totally disagree with some of this however we have ground out a few one nillers have we not?

Yesterday Exeter nullified our normally excellent lhs attack by actually going offensive.We are predictable so teams can set up accordingly. Agree Doyle is limited as an outlet when we try to go more direct.

The subs yesterday did not help .Isgrove subbed again is a head scratcher although Sarcevic was blowing a bit so you can understand Thomason coming on.

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The marking from the free kick was awful but I’m still not convinced that Gillo couldn’t have made at least some effort to get or deflect it. Whilst he’s made some good saves this season, he does often seem rooted to his line. That said, we should have had the game sealed before then but once again failed to realise that in order to score you need to actually shoot!!

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5 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

The marking from the free kick was awful but I’m still not convinced that Gillo couldn’t have made at least some effort to get or deflect it. Whilst he’s made some good saves this season, he does often seem rooted to his line. That said, we should have had the game sealed before then but once again failed to realise that in order to score you need to actually shoot!!

He hardly does make an effort. Goalie is number one priority for next season regardless what league we are in followed by striker 

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13 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said:

Don't totally disagree with some of this however we have ground out a few one nillers have we not?

Yesterday Exeter nullified our normally excellent lhs attack by actually going offensive.We are predictable so teams can set up accordingly. Agree Doyle is limited as an outlet when we try to go more direct.

The subs yesterday did not help .Isgrove subbed again is a head scratcher although Sarcevic was blowing a bit so you can understand Thomason coming on.

The last 4 touches isgrove had broke up 4 very decent counter attacks

 

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9 minutes ago, Casino said:

The last 4 touches isgrove had broke up 4 very decent counter attacks

 

He wasn’t at his best yesterday though; but Dapo should have been replaced not Isgrove. Would have left Sarc on as well as he was still working well.

the full backs were both poor defensively yesterday 

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16 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

He wasn’t at his best yesterday though; but Dapo should have been replaced not Isgrove. Would have left Sarc on as well as he was still working well.

the full backs were both poor defensively yesterday 

Both wide players are frustrating as their end product does not match their approach play. Big fan of Dapo but his disappears from games and that is when the tide seems to turn. Both their right sided player booked 1st half, can not remember us doing much down that side. 
 

The subs made little impact, with the benefit of hindsight Jackson might have better option when Dapo was subbed. Evatt mentioned players having off days, Lee was one of those. Hope him and Sarce are fit next week, if they are and play well we win. 

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16 hours ago, Black Sheep said:

We are the big dog in name only, we have a team who can only score 1 goal a game. hardly big dog is it.

We have scored more than one goal 14 times out of 45 matches = 31%

however, it’s only happened once in the last 8 games = 12.5%

So, going with current form 1-0 it is then 👍

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4 hours ago, dusan nikolic said:

One of our  problems yesterday was taking the lead too early . Our habit of dropping deep when we go ahead and then trying to hit them on the counter works best for us if we score later in the game , you could see 5 minutes after scoring we got deeper and deeper and with Exeter being a decent side and throwing everything at us they basically overran us , especially after the subs that just seemed to throw the whole balance of the team to shit.

I certainly think we can win next week , it can be argued playing away suits our system best . Forgetting the Grimsby debacle we have had 2 great away wins of late and I see no reason why we can't win next week . It's up to I.E now to lift the players .

It’s no coincidence when Lee & Sarcevic went off our midfield began to get over run, need both back next week, doubt they’ll last 90 so we’ve got to put game to bed by 60 minutes. 

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Hindsight is a wonderful thing but when watching the 2nd half yesterday I was thinking Williams, Thomason & Tutte to stop them running through us, take Doyle off & stick Dapo up front to keep their back line honest. 

   Whilst I have no problems with Doyle in as much as he gives his all, for me he's a big part in our lack of potency. He's no target man so you can't hit it long into him & he has no pace so you can't play down the channels either so until you get him in front of goal he's pretty much redundant.... and personally I don't believe his shots to goal ratio out ways his deficiencies. 

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4 hours ago, JimmyRiddle said:

I agree Rizlar, we do need to score more than one goal. 2 attempts on target in the biggest game of the season, utter shite.

Yet the sanctimonious gang on here have been preaching how it's all we need, well clearly not! 

Funny how many off days we have had recently and lose?, Why are we not set up to have an off day an still grind a result?. Why do all our component parts have to work 100% to win a match, and then only by a single goal.

The margins are so tight every week and Evatt has done nothing to address it. We should be home and hosed by now, we have the resources to have pissed this league.

Evatt's ego in playing his 'brand' of football regardless, and Doyle's inability to offer any focus to our attacks is why we are where we are. Doyle should have been ressted weeks ago, Miller must be really shit!, but 'Doyler' is Ian's pal so go figure.

Steady JR or you’ll be called negative for pointing out what the more realistic amongst us have seen for weeks. Being objective and pointing out the obvious isn’t being negative, it’s being realistic but some can’t seem to realise that. We have been extremely fortuitous in many of our recent games to come out with a result, which is annoying when anyone watching can see that we’ve been well on top but failed to take advantage and it’s nearly cost us. Well in the last few games it has. A 1-0 lead always leaves you vulnerable to one super shot, a freak moment, a mistimed tackle or a poor refereeing decision. It’s certainly true that 1-0 gets you as many points as 6-0 but come on, it’s nowhere near as comfortable or enjoyable. The boys have done brilliantly to get us where we are but I honestly can’t help thinking that they could have done it so much more comfortably than they have made it.

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