London Wanderer Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: Come on, do keep up. He refused to wear an iron-on poppy on his football shirt thus, terrorist sympathy. Shit. What a scumbag. In fact, there were some years that I never got round to wearing one. I must love terrorists too. As for the 'up the ra' singing. There are some who argue its meaning has changed - I don't know enough about it, or about James McClean. But I find it unlikely he supports the worst of the IRA attrocites. Happy to be proven wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_tbm Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 McLean would be one of the ones leaving a bomb in a pub rather than engaging Paras in a firefight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, dan_tbm said: McLean would be one of the ones leaving a bomb in a pub rather than engaging Paras in a firefight. Oh Christ , where is this shite going ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Didn't know about him singing 'Up the 'RA' no. Thought the balaclava picture thing he did with his kids was just a piss take like. Albeit a shit one. Bloody LW, my whole post was a pisstake. Have a minute pal 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 18, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 18, 2021 The football focus interview he did was a good watch if you were willing to hear his side I dont think he's even slightly likeable, but its hard not to understand his thought process even if you don't agree with it Oh shit, now I love the IRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Bloody LW, my whole post was a pisstake. Have a minute pal 😊 Haha, sorry bud. 👍 I was wondering about the dressing room singing. But then with the balaclava, he famously got in shit for some pisstake photo he had with his kids. Edited October 18, 2021 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Traf Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Casino said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/39752641 Interesting enough, but the poppy issue was well skirted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Casino said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/39752641 You could quite easily find fault with most footballers, some aren’t very bright, and don’t know when to reign it in. When it’s such a delicate subject as poppies and the Irish troubles it probably needed guidance , for him to have an arm around him and say, look your views are your views and they can’t be changed but they may come with consequences which can and will affect your time on the pitch and in this case off it. I don’t feel like he’s ever got that as much as he probably should given the circumstance The media have had a big big role to play with him, blowing things out of the water to sell papers without looking at their consequences as well. If you grew up in Derry and in particular bogside you probably would have had a family member who were there on Bloody Sunday , to make someone wear a poppy against their will is a bit short sighted. He has family and friends back home in Derry I don’t think it’s particularly right to put a symbol on his chest which could cause him and his family trouble back home. Hes certainly not innocent in his behaviour at times but he’s not the only one. A terrorist or terrorist sympathiser is a ridiculous thing to say about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, Rudy said: You could quite easily find fault with most footballers, some aren’t very bright, and don’t know when to reign it in. When it’s such a delicate subject as poppies and the Irish troubles it probably needed guidance , for him to have an arm around him and say, look your views are your views and they can’t be changed but they may come with consequences which can and will affect your time on the pitch and in this case off it. I don’t feel like he’s ever got that as much as he probably should given the circumstance The media have had a big big role to play with him, blowing things out of the water to sell papers without looking at their consequences as well. If you grew up in Derry and in particular bogside you probably would have had a family member who were there on Bloody Sunday , to make someone wear a poppy against their will is a bit short sighted. He has family and friends back home in Derry I don’t think it’s particularly right to put a symbol on his chest which could cause him and his family trouble back home. Hes certainly not innocent in his behaviour at times but he’s not the only one. A terrorist or terrorist sympathiser is a ridiculous thing to say about him. It's not really if you grew up on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, Max Cherry said: It's not really if you grew up on the other side. How do you mean? Just wondering what point you’re referring to mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy said: You could quite easily find fault with most footballers, some aren’t very bright, and don’t know when to reign it in. When it’s such a delicate subject as poppies and the Irish troubles it probably needed guidance , for him to have an arm around him and say, look your views are your views and they can’t be changed but they may come with consequences which can and will affect your time on the pitch and in this case off it. I don’t feel like he’s ever got that as much as he probably should given the circumstance The media have had a big big role to play with him, blowing things out of the water to sell papers without looking at their consequences as well. If you grew up in Derry and in particular bogside you probably would have had a family member who were there on Bloody Sunday , to make someone wear a poppy against their will is a bit short sighted. He has family and friends back home in Derry I don’t think it’s particularly right to put a symbol on his chest which could cause him and his family trouble back home. Hes certainly not innocent in his behaviour at times but he’s not the only one. A terrorist or terrorist sympathiser is a ridiculous thing to say about him. I’m more concerned that no one else on here has ever heard any of the abuse thrown at him. This forum either has the deafest fans in football, they all sit in the west upper, they don’t go, or a bunch of lying fuckers. I’m going for the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, royal white said: I’m more concerned that no one else on here has ever heard any of the abuse thrown at him. This forum either has the deafest fans in football, they all sit in the west upper, they don’t go, or a bunch of lying fuckers. I’m going for the last. Oh I heard it and I’ve heard it before. My Irish wife has heard it in the past when someone called him a nail bombing Irish cunt when he was at Stoke or Sunderland can’t remember. I wasn’t best pleased and he got told. In hindsight I should have reported it, on me that I didn’t Edited October 19, 2021 by Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, royal white said: I’m more concerned that no one else on here has ever heard any of the abuse thrown at him. This forum either has the deafest fans in football, they all sit in the west upper, they don’t go, or a bunch of lying fuckers. I’m going for the last. We've all heard it, mate and I'd guess that more than half of us have done it at some point too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Traf said: We've all heard it, mate and I'd guess that more than half of us have done it at some point too. Fully agree, so back to my original point. Many on here were demanding Hungary play games behind closed doors, get kicked out of the World Cup, receive fines etc. Will they be doing the same for us or is it only those pesky eastern Europeans that deserve bans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, royal white said: Fully agree, so back to my original point. Many on here were demanding Hungary play games behind closed doors, get kicked out of the World Cup, receive fines etc. Will they be doing the same for us or is it only those pesky eastern Europeans that deserve bans? I'd say the "Do as I say, not do as I do" approach will apply. I'm not for sanctioning clubs/countries etc per sé, because it's unfair on the majority who beahve themselves, but the situation needs addressing and we can all play our part by reporting stuff. Sadly, much of the abuse is just lazy stereotyping as opposed to out and out racism, it's the route of least resisitance sometimes. People lose their rag and come out with an insult based on the first thing they see. It could be fat, ginger, four-eyed etc etc, not just skin colour. Please, nobody be under any misunderstanding here, I'm not condoning any abuse given out at all, but I can see how in the heat of the moment things can be said that are later regretted by normally rational people. But they're not the crux of the issue : you've got a racist element to society who abuse others before a ball is kicked in anger, but society and football need to police this better and they're failing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, royal white said: Fully agree, so back to my original point. Many on here were demanding Hungary play games behind closed doors, get kicked out of the World Cup, receive fines etc. Will they be doing the same for us or is it only those pesky eastern Europeans that deserve bans? Just had a quick look at the “Today’s Games” thread around 12 Oct when game was being played. You appear to be the only person mentioning the trouble by the Hungarians. If there is a more in-depth thread I’ve not seen maybe it’s on there. This is all I found On 12/10/2021 at 22:01, royal white said: Bloody racist Eastern European’s again!! Wait a minute 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MickyD said: Just had a quick look at the “Today’s Games” thread around 12 Oct when game was being played. You appear to be the only person mentioning the trouble by the Hungarians. If there is a more in-depth thread I’ve not seen maybe it’s on there. This is all I found You’ve misunderstood my point. When Hungarians threw bottles at Sterling it was apparently because they’re all racists (people chose to ignore objects being thrown at other players Shaw, Kane etc ) this clip was highlighting that they will throw objects at anyone regardless of skin colour. And you’d probably be best off going to the 3rd Sept regarding the game in question. Edited October 19, 2021 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, royal white said: You’ve misunderstood my point. When Hungarians threw bottles at Sterling it was apparently because they’re all racists (people chose to ignore objects being thrown at other players Shaw, Kane etc ) this clip was highlighting that they will throw objects at anyone regardless of skin colour. And you’d probably be best off going to the 3rd Sept regarding the game in question. Think it was highlighted because he got booed when he touched the ball as well. I don’t think the bottles were all because of his skin colour but there was certainly undertones to it due to his treatment before the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, royal white said: Fully agree, so back to my original point. Many on here were demanding Hungary play games behind closed doors, get kicked out of the World Cup, receive fines etc. Will they be doing the same for us or is it only those pesky eastern Europeans that deserve bans? So after all of this it seems nobody was demanding Hungary to be banned or play games behind closed doors Have you reported what happened on Saturday yet? Or are you not really arsed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, deane koontz said: So after all of this it seems nobody was demanding Hungary to be banned or play games behind closed doors Have you reported what happened on Saturday yet? Or are you not really arsed Pretty sure they was, as well as saying they should be fined, they’re backward cunts, knuckle draggers etc. As I’ve mentioned numerous times I have no idea who was shouting it. did you ever report it? Or are you one of the deaf/west stand uppers/lying fuckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, royal white said: Pretty sure they was, as well as saying they should be fined, they’re backward cunts, knuckle draggers etc. As I’ve mentioned numerous times I have no idea who was shouting it. did you ever report it? Or are you one of the deaf/west stand uppers/lying fuckers There was nothing at all by us that I heard ESL quiet end. That is a fact, I ain't deaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ani said: There was nothing at all by us that I heard ESL quiet end. That is a fact, I ain't deaf. Same place where I sit, you’re probably best using that link I posted. Have you never heard racist/sectarian abuse hurled at him at our place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, royal white said: Pretty sure they was, as well as saying they should be fined, they’re backward cunts, knuckle draggers etc. As I’ve mentioned numerous times I have no idea who was shouting it. did you ever report it? Or are you one of the deaf/west stand uppers/lying Didn't go to the game. Therfore didn't hear it Which stand was you in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, deane koontz said: Didn't go to the game. Therfore didn't hear it Which stand was you in? I meant Previous games, or did you miss all the games McClean played in? ESL for about the 4th time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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