26 minutes ago, wakey said:

strong and stern stuff mate. 

you've not been listening 😁

Well he is "made of stern stuff", as he's spent the last 9 months refusing to admit he can get it wrong.

See what happens tomorrow, not sure how he can play three at the back, unless he's playing schon on right, williams on left, with JDC, Jones and Forrester in middle, 

 

8 hours ago, Cheese said:

His articles on the current situation have been very fair and balanced. He's certainly not a pro-Evatt propagandist.

He was being balanced until about 2 weeks ago and since then he's been very defensive of Evatt and dismissive of anyone critical of him.

Think he's had a telling off from the club and told to get back on message.

As is generally the case in football, the tweeted excerpt from the interview doesn't come across well in a soundbite and the overall interview isn't really a pop at the fans, but for a man who claims to take a measured approach, he doesn't half word things poorly or open to interpretation.

I desperately want the bloke to succeed, because it means that we will.

I just take it all with a pinch of salt. The blokes on the ropes and waffling shite.

All managers do this and all have a level of arrogance and self promotion. It's why they are in the job and leading a sqaud of men.

Talks cheap and all that.

Only results will save the man.

Stop talking shite Ian and start winning football matches. And get your weak as piss sqaud to be made of stern stuff instead of collapsing at the first sign of adversity.

 

30 minutes ago, Stig said:

He was being balanced until about 2 weeks ago and since then he's been very defensive of Evatt and dismissive of anyone critical of him.

Think he's had a telling off from the club and told to get back on message.

I don’t think so.

I think Iles is genuinely putting his point across and he’s remaining pretty balanced. He’s not held back after our defeats and not shied away from being critical of Evatt

People find this hard to accept, but Evatt really wouldn’t be in a job if 100% of what he was saying or doing was wrong.

Don’t get me wrong I would say at the minute, IMO, 80/90% wouldn’t be far off the mark.

But lets be honest, (and I completely get this) for most now, nothing Evatt says is going to be looked at favourably, even if it’s true/or is a fair answer to a question.

When people are of this mindset, they are just going to search for the negative and go for the jugular. Evatt doesn’t help himself and on this occasion the wily BBC have laid it on a plate.

 

29 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I just take it all with a pinch of salt. The blokes on the ropes and waffling shite.

All managers do this and all have a level of arrogance and self promotion. It's why they are in the job and leading a sqaud of men.

Talks cheap and all that.

Only results will save the man.

Stop talking shite Ian and start winning football matches. And get your weak as piss sqaud to be made of stern stuff instead of collapsing at the first sign of adversity.

 

That's it and he's acknowledged it, say less, get some steady results and there'll be nothing to have to talk his way into a storm about. 

Getting some backbone into the squad is the big challenge, he can't inject it himself so it might have to be added in the window. No data on completed passing stats just size of bollocks

52 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I just take it all with a pinch of salt. The blokes on the ropes and waffling shite.

All managers do this and all have a level of arrogance and self promotion. It's why they are in the job and leading a sqaud of men.

Talks cheap and all that.

Only results will save the man.

Stop talking shite Ian and start winning football matches. And get your weak as piss sqaud to be made of stern stuff instead of collapsing at the first sign of adversity.

 

Spot on talk is cheap do your talking on the pitch but somehow it won’t happen go a goal down then capitulation. 

3 hours ago, Traf said:

As is generally the case in football, the tweeted excerpt from the interview doesn't come across well in a soundbite and the overall interview isn't really a pop at the fans, but for a man who claims to take a measured approach, he doesn't half word things poorly or open to interpretation.

I desperately want the bloke to succeed, because it means that we will.

This is where I am, I don't think he will but id be happy to be proven wrong and us go on a 20 game winning streak with him in charge.

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by dazl1212

No fan WANTS him to fail. We all want that miracle 20 match run.

However, many (now most ?) just don't see him achieving this.

We all have our own theories but style of play, formation, mental and physical weaknesses, arrogant one-eyed approaches & now dismissiveness of criticism following Sharron's clear support.

I dread her finding more money & him wasting it ... again.

1 hour ago, ianofcleveleys said:

That's it and he's acknowledged it, say less, get some steady results and there'll be nothing to have to talk his way into a storm about. 

Getting some backbone into the squad is the big challenge, he can't inject it himself so it might have to be added in the window. No data on completed passing stats just size of bollocks

We could buy some backbone and it would be flacid in 6 months. 

Staggering people don't get that we haven't randomly stumbled across 25 melts - they've been made that way by the leadership over them.

New Christmas jumper.

 

 

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

No fan WANTS him to fail. We all want that miracle 20 match run.

However, many (now most ?) just don't see him achieving this.

We all have our own theories but style of play, formation, mental and physical weaknesses, arrogant one-eyed approaches & now dismissiveness of criticism following Sharron's clear support.

I dread her finding more money & him wasting it ... again.

I agree with you, unfortunately. I am totally in the Evatt out camp as I don't see us ever getting promoted under him.

1 hour ago, maaarsh said:

We could buy some backbone and it would be flacid in 6 months. 

Staggering people don't get that we haven't randomly stumbled across 25 melts - they've been made that way by the leadership over them.

Don't disagree, it hasn't appeared to be a priority in the recent recruitment processes, while at the same time some who had a bit of a mix of guile and ability to look after themselves have been moved on. The result, at least for me, is a squad that looks weaker than the one we had two seasons ago

All the heat and focus is on the manager in situations like we've been in this week, and he has no doubt wanted, bought into and believed in the recruitment approach, but there are some figures in the shadows with equal culpability who keep their heads down, albeit you'd like to think there is some internal accountability we aren't going to be party to.

30 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Don't disagree, it hasn't appeared to be a priority in the recent recruitment processes, while at the same time some who had a bit of a mix of guile and ability to look after themselves have been moved on. The result, at least for me, is a squad that looks weaker than the one we had two seasons ago

All the heat and focus is on the manager in situations like we've been in this week, and he has no doubt wanted, bought into and believed in the recruitment approach, but there are some figures in the shadows with equal culpability who keep their heads down, albeit you'd like to think there is some internal accountability we aren't going to be party to.

harsh.

Vic'll come good after his third pre-season.

1 hour ago, wakey said:

harsh.

Vic'll come good after his third pre-season.

2026

The way he was talking tripe in the promotion battle last season was the most egregious for me. Hinting about quiting at the end of the season during the run in. Why the fuck would you do that? Keep a lid on it.

There's ego but with Evatt everyfuckingthing is about him

Edited December 20, 20241 yr by Dimron

If someone comes for Dion I reckon he's off.

As shit as that would be.

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If someone comes for Dion I reckon he's off.

As shit as that would be.

My neighbour said something the other week about Evatt commenting that he and another could be off for £4m.

Maybe he dreamt it, and I've heard nothing since, but it did seem like a "for sale" message.

On 19/12/2024 at 16:01, Traf said:

It could (and probably will) be interpreted that way, if that's anyone's agenda.

Personally, I'm more concerned that his motivation is to just prove people wrong.

And tbh, hes spot on

 

23 minutes ago, Casino said:

And tbh, hes spot on

 

I couldnt give a shit what anyones motivation is as long as they are motivated. 

 

Fuck the radio

Hes a football manager

If, under pressure, he picks the wrong words, so fucking what

The media have way too much idea of their own importance

Loads like Clough...hed fuck em right off

Rules or no rules

40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

My neighbour said something the other week about Evatt commenting that he and another could be off for £4m.

Maybe he dreamt it, and I've heard nothing since, but it did seem like a "for sale" message.

Yeah and Vic is going to Turkey for £1mil.  

Let's deal in reality, Charles and Vic are here either till the end of their contracts, or they leave for a nominal fee 6 months before.

1 hour ago, burnden said:

 

Fair fucking play