We had a decent thread a while back discussing Evatt’s philosophies and approach to the game (think it got tainted and pulled)

So not a bad time to start it up again at the beginning of the season.

In the main he’s done a fantastic job. A minority lost patience round about Xmas/New Year in both seasons. 

But surely now he has the large backing of the majority of fans and the brand he talked about implementing here is now well and truly established.

Good article above highlighting how he’s using Sport Science to get the squad performing to it’s optimum level.

A young, meticulous, intelligent and passionate individual, who we are very lucky to have leading our club.

I hope he gets what he deserves with promotion to the Championship. 

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

Followed some advice on here and switched to Lebara a few weeks ago. Previously had no signal whatsoever in and around the ground, but had no issues since.

Sometimes it sems like I'm the only one with a blank screen. I feel like a right pauper.

6 minutes ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Sometimes it sems like I'm the only one with a blank screen. I feel like a right pauper.

Switch to Lebara.

1 hour ago, Traf said:

They're doing that with the bond money, aren't they?

Wait, hang on, what's that? They're doing after the fourth mini-screen goes in.

Players trained this week on the new, upgraded training pitch for the first time. Paid for with bond money. Surprised club haven’t shouted about it. 

24 minutes ago, thebells said:

Players trained this week on the new, upgraded training pitch for the first time. Paid for with bond money. Surprised club haven’t shouted about it. 

They might have, but there's no WiFi so word's not got out. We're waiting on a letter.

30 minutes ago, thebells said:

Players trained this week on the new, upgraded training pitch for the first time. Paid for with bond money. Surprised club haven’t shouted about it. 

Hopefully this means we won't pick up quite as many training ground injuries

4 hours ago, tomski said:

Where he stands in the ground? 

Looking for a debate that’s not there champ.

I think it makes no difference where he stands during play.

Can still do pre match, half time and subs etc

Standing on the touchline gobbing off is so "trade"

If he wants to be a proper manager he needs to learn to stand back. Unless he ultimately wants to bugger off to Italy or Argentina.

Mind you, you could probably hear him from the gantry...

Changing a successful formation to yesterdays struggle, just shows his stubbornness will always override his thinking to what he knows is best, rather then what actually is best

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

Switch to Lebara.

Best thing I've done. Best signal I've ever had.

The ground is not a problem now.

Lebara use vf network

Why would lebara have better reception than vf

Its a genuine question, not doubting youre getting a good signal, but its clearly more than just the network

 

I thought that

And also, why does it seem so cheap relative to the rest of the market?

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I thought that

And also, why does it seem so cheap relative to the rest of the market?

Cos they use Mike from Macclesfield on the adverts😂

On 20/10/2024 at 22:06, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I thought that

And also, why does it seem so cheap relative to the rest of the market?

I thought that. I don’t want to swap a six for two threes.

Is it a faff ?

Watching Birmingham reminded me how we used to play under Evatt. Quick passing, players making space, winning the ball back quickly, tiring the opposition out.

We had a system that worked. Everyone knew their roles. If a player was injured we'd have a back up player to fill that place.

The identity Evatt built up has gone and I think that's what pisses me off most about this team.

Anyone know what formation we played tonight? Looked like a 523 again.

Recruitment has been shocking too. Schon 1m? Weak as piss ... McAtee 1m? Anyone know what his main position is? Arfield? utterly pointless.

Papering over the cracks with our mini winning run. Tonight was a reality check of how backwards we've gone.

 

BBC repeat.

should have been sacked in may

4 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Watching Birmingham reminded me how we used to play under Evatt. Quick passing, players making space, winning the ball back quickly, tiring the opposition out.

We had a system that worked. Everyone knew their roles. If a player was injured we'd have a back up player to fill that place.

The identity Evatt built up has gone and I think that's what pisses me off most about this team.

Anyone know what formation we played tonight? Looked like a 523 again.

Recruitment has been shocking too. Schon 1m? Weak as piss ... McAtee 1m? Anyone know what his main position is? Arfield? utterly pointless.

Papering over the cracks with our mini winning run. Tonight was a reality check of how backwards we've gone.

 

I  agree with the point about identity. After years of us just being "a team" with nothing to really define what or who we were, we've had a few seasons of us standing for something, a way of playing. Currently though we look like we're not sure what we're meant to be.

Unfortunately I cannot see him changing anything his tenure as run its course time for a change . 

16 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Watching Birmingham reminded me how we used to play under Evatt. Quick passing, players making space, winning the ball back quickly, tiring the opposition out.

We had a system that worked. Everyone knew their roles. If a player was injured we'd have a back up player to fill that place.

The identity Evatt built up has gone and I think that's what pisses me off most about this team.

Anyone know what formation we played tonight? Looked like a 523 again.

Recruitment has been shocking too. Schon 1m? Weak as piss ... McAtee 1m? Anyone know what his main position is? Arfield? utterly pointless.

Papering over the cracks with our mini winning run. Tonight was a reality check of how backwards we've gone.

 

I was hoping it wouldn't be, but seems it was.

Don't get it; if you want to frustrate a team by packing midfielders in, then play them as midfielders.

I didn't mind the selection per se, but again, a hybrid- type, bet-hedging set up didn't work. 

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I was hoping it wouldn't be, but seems it was.

Don't get it; if you want to frustrate a team by packing midfielders in, then play them as midfielders.

I didn't mind the selection per se, but again, a hybrid- type, bet-hedging set up didn't work. 

Over thinking and over complicating things.

Has to be the smartest person  in the room. 

Know the games are coming thick and fast but decide on your best team and formation then play it.

Tonight shouldn't be used to define our season but, I dunno, was a strange approach imo.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I was hoping it wouldn't be, but seems it was.

Don't get it; if you want to frustrate a team by packing midfielders in, then play them as midfielders.

I didn't mind the selection per se, but again, a hybrid- type, bet-hedging set up didn't work. 

It wasn't 5-2-3 and we did do what you suggest in your second paragraph

It just didn't really work

Perhaps it might've done with Tomo in instead of Arfield

43 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Watching Birmingham reminded me how we used to play under Evatt. Quick passing, players making space, winning the ball back quickly, tiring the opposition out.

We had a system that worked. Everyone knew their roles. If a player was injured we'd have a back up player to fill that place.

The identity Evatt built up has gone and I think that's what pisses me off most about this team.

Anyone know what formation we played tonight? Looked like a 523 again.

Recruitment has been shocking too. Schon 1m? Weak as piss ... McAtee 1m? Anyone know what his main position is? Arfield? utterly pointless.

Papering over the cracks with our mini winning run. Tonight was a reality check of how backwards we've gone.

 

This is the illusion of IE's system, since he's been manager we've never been competitive with the teams around and above us. Sure we got loads of points from teams lower down the league but even then there were lapses in concentration which turned 1-0 wins into 1-1 draws. These lapses in concentration are fundemental to the structure he's got them playing because in essence they're not good enough to play this structure, if they were, they'd be playing in the Premier League.

The problem isn't the players, even Birmingham wouldn't be able to suceed with the way he's asking them to play.

Edited October 22, 20241 yr by Zog1

1 hour ago, Zog1 said:

This is the illusion of IE's system, since he's been manager we've never been competitive with the teams around and above us. Sure we got loads of points from teams lower down the league but even then there were lapses in concentration which turned 1-0 wins into 1-1 draws. These lapses in concentration are fundemental to the structure he's got them playing because in essence they're not good enough to play this structure, if they were, they'd be playing in the Premier League.

The problem isn't the players, even Birmingham wouldn't be able to suceed with the way he's asking them to play.

Even the commentator stated that they want to just go sideways, with a daft amount of pressure on the wing backs. 

Schon has little glimmers but he's not there yet, 

I do worry that we've seen the best of Charles, and unfortuantly despite spending on Collins and Mcatee, he won't give them the run together they need. Mcatee looked so much more of a threat when he came on. 

8 hours ago, Zog1 said:

This is the illusion of IE's system, since he's been manager we've never been competitive with the teams around and above us. Sure we got loads of points from teams lower down the league but even then there were lapses in concentration which turned 1-0 wins into 1-1 draws. These lapses in concentration are fundemental to the structure he's got them playing because in essence they're not good enough to play this structure, if they were, they'd be playing in the Premier League.

The problem isn't the players, even Birmingham wouldn't be able to suceed with the way he's asking them to play.

Agree on this. Struggling to think of a time outside of the pizza cup final (which was an actual free hit) when we’ve outwitted or outfoxed a better team under him.

It just doesn’t happen.

9 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It wasn't 5-2-3 and we did do what you suggest in your second paragraph

It just didn't really work

Perhaps it might've done with Tomo in instead of Arfield

Then don't pick Arfield, and frankly don't select Sheehan.

We were never having loads of possession and as per every time we play such a game where we can't bully a team, Sheehan goes missing.

He must see that it's the same each time.

Why not try something different; maybe 4 at the back, 5 in midfield for example. 

Johnson and Santos as central defenders last night.

Williams and cogley full backs.

Schon wide left, Matete and Dempsey with Lolos as the 3.

May have needed to utilise McAtee wide right as needs must.

No guarantees clearly, but at least offers the chance to double up and help prevent crosses, which we sometimes struggle with.

Whichever way he used them, it simply doesn't seem to suit any of them. Over elaborate and failing.

10 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Watching Birmingham reminded me how we used to play under Evatt. Quick passing, players making space, winning the ball back quickly, tiring the opposition out.

We had a system that worked. Everyone knew their roles. If a player was injured we'd have a back up player to fill that place.

The identity Evatt built up has gone and I think that's what pisses me off most about this team.

Anyone know what formation we played tonight? Looked like a 523 again.

Recruitment has been shocking too. Schon 1m? Weak as piss ... McAtee 1m? Anyone know what his main position is? Arfield? utterly pointless.

Papering over the cracks with our mini winning run. Tonight was a reality check of how backwards we've gone.

 

I don't agree with the criticism of Schon and McAtee, I think they've shown enough that they can be good players for us, if we sort ourselves out.

The rest of your post is spot on though. We've lost our way completely and I'm not even sure Evatt even knows what he's trying to do anymore.

9 minutes ago, Stig said:

I don't agree with the criticism of Schon and McAtee, I think they've shown enough that they can be good players for us, if we sort ourselves out.

The rest of your post is spot on though. We've lost our way completely and I'm not even sure Evatt even knows what he's trying to do anymore.

Same. I like both of em. Wasn’t sure on Schon first couple but I think he’s an asset when we are dictating tempo.

Mcatee. My type of player all day long.