Meanwhile In England

[Duck Egg]

It's not a backlog silly.

 

 

[Casino]

Backlogs, queues, caseloads, legacy backlogs

Its comedy of the highest order

Bravo!

 

Shes good btw

[gonzo]

Are legacy backlogs like the Read Madrid of the application world and recent ones like Man City?

Good old fashioned Pakis vs Albanians.

[Not in Crawley]

Being Home Secretary at the moment is the biggest poisoned challis in government.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Being Home Secretary at the moment is the biggest poisoned challis in government.

 

Aye. Fuck knows why he took it.

Seemed to have presence and a bit of gravitas as Foreign Sec, but doesn't seem right for this.

[Not in Crawley]

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye. Fuck knows why he took it.

Seemed to have presence and a bit of gravitas as Foreign Sec, but doesn't seem right for this.

Had to move for Cameron - no way was he coming back in to take something on like Home Sec, and couldn't 'downgrade' Cleverley to one of the smaller offices of state. Only one reasonable move in that situation I guess.

 

[Winchester White]

A proper read on why the NHS is fucked...

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Had to move for Cameron - no way was he coming back in to take something on like Home Sec, and couldn't 'downgrade' Cleverley to one of the smaller offices of state. Only one reasonable move in that situation I guess.

 

He could have said no!

I'm not sure Sunak could have booted him out of his cabinet- wouldn't have the backing from his ministers and backbenchers. 

[Traf]

13 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

It's not a backlog silly.

 

 

They're more interested in semantics than they are in governing adequately.

[Not in Crawley]

10 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He could have said no!

I'm not sure Sunak could have booted him out of his cabinet- wouldn't have the backing from his ministers and backbenchers. 

Not if you want to hold one of the great offices of State. 

From Foreign Secretary to Agriculture say? No one would make that move.

Basically Sunak has tried to bring back Cameron as a vote soother to swing more liberal Conservative southern seats and because the talent pool is currently tiny. Its not worked as there is still ill feeling towards Cameron, and especially as he's not accountable in the Commons.

He'd have been better not to do it but Sunak's options are very limited at the moment to get eye catching, vote boosting strategies in front of the public.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Not if you want to hold one of the great offices of State. 

From Foreign Secretary to Agriculture say? No one would make that move.

Basically Sunak has tried to bring back Cameron as a vote soother to swing more liberal Conservative southern seats and because the talent pool is currently tiny. Its not worked as there is still ill feeling towards Cameron, and especially as he's not accountable in the Commons.

He'd have been better not to do it but Sunak's options are very limited at the moment to get eye catching, vote boosting strategies in front of the public.

That's my point- I doubt Rishi would or could have blown him out, which he would have had to do, if he had refused the move. Ministers have done such things before.

Moving has certainly weakened him I think, which won't necessarily do him any good long term- if he wants to stick around until the election after next- and seek another major office should they get back in power.

[Not in Crawley]

16 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's my point- I doubt Rishi would or could have blown him out, which he would have had to do, if he had refused the move. Ministers have done such things before.

Moving has certainly weakened him I think, which won't necessarily do him any good long term- if he wants to stick around until the election after next- and seek another major office should they get back in power.

I'm not so sure - Cameron was coming in and Cleverly would have to move, and was offered the Home Office. He'd have shifted him to the back benches if he'd have refused - you don't make those sort of moves without the consequences but I'd have thought Cleverly was sounded out.

Anyway, as you say it's not going to do him a ton of harm , and he'll no doubt be in the oppostition cabinet if they don't get elected. Personally, I'm still of the opinion it'll be closer than all the polls are showing, I'm still not convinced of a Labour landslide, but we'll see - still a long way to go.

[Traf]

Let's not forget that Cameron was the instigator of Brexit...

[Traf]

 

[Greg_BWFC]

33 minutes ago, Traf said:

Let's not forget that Cameron was the instigator of Brexit...

Correct.

[gonzo]

[Not in Crawley]

7 hours ago, Traf said:

Let's not forget that Cameron was the instigator of Brexit...

I think Sunak thought it might have passed people by.

A very odd decision all told.

[MickyD]

7 hours ago, Traf said:

Let's not forget that Cameron was the instigator of Brexit...

Hardly! He was the one who gave us the option to decide but I don’t think he read the room as well as he ought to have done.

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, MickyD said:

Hardly! He was the one who gave us the option to decide but I don’t think he read the room as well as he ought to have done.

He did it to keep the right wing of his party quiet. - nothing else, party management. He was told time and again not to but his arrogance said otherwise.

Then he foolishly let everyone in his party have a free vote - didn't know what he'd unleashed.

That shitty whistle he did after he quit and went back into number 10 says it all.

[Traf]

4 hours ago, MickyD said:

Hardly! He was the one who gave us the option to decide but I don’t think he read the room as well as he ought to have done.

So it's his fault.

[Not in Crawley]

Kwartang to step down before at the next election. Tufton Street here he comes.....

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Kwartang to step down before at the next election. Tufton Street here he comes.....

It's almost that these grifters don't want to actually be in politics if there is nothing in it for them? Sat on the opposition benches doesn't give them the opportunities to make shedloads on the side.

[Not in Crawley]

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

It's almost that these grifters don't want to actually be in politics if there is nothing in it for them? Sat on the opposition benches doesn't give them the opportunities to make shedloads on the side.

Yes, the sooner we get back to people doing the job because they actually believe in public service, the better.

[mickbrown]

The 54th Tory MP to do so. 
 

That’s not normal is it?

[Traf]

30 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

The 54th Tory MP to do so. 
 

That’s not normal is it?

rats