RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: Whatabout, whatabout You say Judges should know but they can only give a sentence in line with the guidelines and if a jury finds them guilty then they act accordingly You can't deny an appeal for anyone convicted of a crime just because you dont like it Nothing to do with human rights but surely you agree everyone should be entitled to a fair trial? If that means someone gets accused of under age sex when they didn't, do you expect them to just shrug their shoulders, go off to prison with the nonce tag? No I expect them to get a minimum of 15 years and a goos shoeing every day...... but hey im just an old fashioned gammon Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Serious question......why are people getting stiffer sentences for " offensive" tweets than a labour MP gets for obvious vidoed threats to harm? And why are people getting stiffer sentences for downloading Premier League Football than downloading child porn? For anyone who needs time for consideration its fine....I've got time on my hands, I can wait. Quote
kent_white Posted January 6 Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Serious question......why are people getting stiffer sentences for " offensive" tweets than a labour MP gets for obvious vidoed threats to harm? And why are people getting stiffer sentences for downloading Premier League Football than downloading child porn? For anyone who needs time for consideration its fine....I've got time on my hands, I can wait. The first one I can see maybe happening. Depending on the nature of the tweets. But the second one? Surely not? It would have to be some mega rare occurrence that. I doubt you'd even get a slap on the wrists if the cops came round and you had wonky Sky on? Quote
green genie Posted January 6 Posted January 6 18 minutes ago, kent_white said: The first one I can see maybe happening. Depending on the nature of the tweets. But the second one? Surely not? It would have to be some mega rare occurrence that. I doubt you'd even get a slap on the wrists if the cops came round and you had wonky Sky on? Has anyone even been charged by police for having a dodgy stick? Plenty of propaganda threatening it but only arrests I’ve seen are for those caught flogging them. Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 25 minutes ago, kent_white said: The first one I can see maybe happening. Depending on the nature of the tweets. But the second one? Surely not? It would have to be some mega rare occurrence that. I doubt you'd even get a slap on the wrists if the cops came round and you had wonky Sky on? Suspended sentences for child porn is not uncommon, you never heard of Huw Edwards?.....fucking wake up fella!! Edited January 6 by RONNIE PHILLIPS Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6 Posted January 6 You get treated less favourably for non payment of council tax......this country is run by a cesspit of corrupt, child abusing grifters from all parties. Quote
Cheese Posted January 6 Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: You get treated less favourably for non payment of council tax......this country is run by a cesspit of corrupt, child abusing grifters from all parties. But you LOVE corrupt, child-abusing grifters? Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6 Posted January 6 9 minutes ago, Cheese said: But you LOVE corrupt, child-abusing grifters? Had a drink again have we? Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6 Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, Cheese said: But you LOVE corrupt, child-abusing grifters? As is your modus operendi.....please provide evidence to back up your statement Quote
royal white Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 4 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Gets even worse 🤔 Yip….. but they pulled a flag down 😂 Quote
jayjayoghani Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: As is your modus operendi.....please provide evidence to back up your statement I suspect he's talking about Trump. FTR I have no idea if you have ever backed him or not. Quote
Sweep Posted January 7 Posted January 7 11 hours ago, green genie said: Has anyone even been charged by police for having a dodgy stick? Plenty of propaganda threatening it but only arrests I’ve seen are for those caught flogging them. I very much doubt it Quote
Sweep Posted January 7 Posted January 7 10 hours ago, royal white said: Yip….. but they pulled a flag down 😂 It's amazing that this is still a thing I said ages ago, probably on this thread, that my colleagues over in the Netherlands said that the trouble on that evening was basically Dutchers going looking for it. The Maccabi fans whilst not angels by any stretch of the imagination were absolutely no worse than any other foreign fans who find themselves in Amsterdam for a couple of nights. I'd much rather, the Police had said. "You know what, we didn't want a load of that lot over here, as tensions are high, and there is a large Muslim community here, and whilst we have no proof that there would be any trouble, we're not willing to risk it, so we want them banned" - or words to that effect, rather than pissing about as they have done. Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 7 Posted January 7 6 hours ago, jayjayoghani said: I suspect he's talking about Trump. FTR I have no idea if you have ever backed him or not. Not once.......its just the usual unfounded mud flinging rant of an attention seeking keyboard warrior. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 7 Posted January 7 12 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Serious question......why are people getting stiffer sentences for " offensive" tweets than a labour MP gets for obvious vidoed threats to harm? And why are people getting stiffer sentences for downloading Premier League Football than downloading child porn? For anyone who needs time for consideration its fine....I've got time on my hands, I can wait. The labour chap was a Councillor, and was found not guilty. Hence no sentence! He got better advice, pleaded not guilty and went to trial. Connelly should have done the same but was misled by the legal profession. Unfortunately, the Free Speech Union didn't manage to get to her in time to advise her properly. Quote
royal white Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 31 minutes ago, Sweep said: It's amazing that this is still a thing I said ages ago, probably on this thread, that my colleagues over in the Netherlands said that the trouble on that evening was basically Dutchers going looking for it. The Maccabi fans whilst not angels by any stretch of the imagination were absolutely no worse than any other foreign fans who find themselves in Amsterdam for a couple of nights. I'd much rather, the Police had said. "You know what, we didn't want a load of that lot over here, as tensions are high, and there is a large Muslim community here, and whilst we have no proof that there would be any trouble, we're not willing to risk it, so we want them banned" - or words to that effect, rather than pissing about as they have done. Yep I think the majority realise that’s was the case, though there’s still some on here being kidded by the bullshit that was pushed. It’s a sad reflection of the times when in 2025 in the U.K. fans can’t go and watch their team playing because of the threats from a minority. Quote
gonzo Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Man jailed for supplying thousands of small boats and engines to Channel people smugglers | World News | Sky News https://share.google/zGa9A3itLvD4iGSdS Great stuff. Quote
Spider Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Man jailed for supplying thousands of small boats and engines to Channel people smugglers | World News | Sky News https://share.google/zGa9A3itLvD4iGSdS Great stuff. SMASH THE GANGS Quote
kent_white Posted January 7 Posted January 7 19 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Suspended sentences for child porn is not uncommon, you never heard of Huw Edwards?.....fucking wake up fella!! Yeah I've been to sleep and woken up. 😁 I think a suspended sentence isn't enough of a deterrent/punishment for downloading images of kids. Or keeping them on your phone after being sent them on WhatsApp - which is what Huw Edwards did. And is possibly/maybe why he got off as lightly as he did. I've never heard of anybody getting a sentence for watching a Premier League game in a Firestick though. Which was the point I'm making. I understand some people have been imprisoned who have made millions out of selling dodgy sticks though. It does seem to be the wrong way around to my neutral eyes - but I don't REALLY know that much about the cases in question. And even if I did - I wouldn't understand sentencing guidelines well enough to say whether they had been applied properly or not. Maybe there were aggravating factors that led to heavier sentences for them? IDK? I think we're probably in more agreement than disagreement though 👍 Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kent_white said: Yeah I've been to sleep and woken up. 😁 I think a suspended sentence isn't enough of a deterrent/punishment for downloading images of kids. Or keeping them on your phone after being sent them on WhatsApp - which is what Huw Edwards did. And is possibly/maybe why he got off as lightly as he did. I've never heard of anybody getting a sentence for watching a Premier League game in a Firestick though. Which was the point I'm making. I understand some people have been imprisoned who have made millions out of selling dodgy sticks though. It does seem to be the wrong way around to my neutral eyes - but I don't REALLY know that much about the cases in question. And even if I did - I wouldn't understand sentencing guidelines well enough to say whether they had been applied properly or not. Maybe there were aggravating factors that led to heavier sentences for them? IDK? I think we're probably in more agreement than disagreement though 👍 Whilst i likely over egged to make a point it just sickens me that loads of paedos get suspended sentences for child porn but I know these days i shouldnt be surprised. Edited January 7 by RONNIE PHILLIPS Quote
kent_white Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Whilst i likely over egged to make a point it just sickens me that loads of paedos get suspended sentences for child porn but I know these days i shouldnt be surprised. I don't think any of us would disagree with you mate! Sorry if I took it too literally! 😁👍 Quote
royal white Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 10 minutes ago, Spider said: SMASH THE GANGS Thankfully he was sent abroad for sentencing. The rest of Europe probably thought fuck putting him on trial in the U.K. he will be selling boats again in no time. Quote
Spider Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, royal white said: Thankfully he was sent abroad for sentencing. The rest of Europe probably thought fuck putting him on trial in the U.K. he will be selling boats again in no time. Starmer concurs. But, gang smashed. Weirdly, right wing twitter seems to have missed this good news. Quote
royal white Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Starmer concurs. But, gang smashed. Weirdly, right wing twitter seems to have missed this good news. With them smashing a main boat provider you’d expect crossings to dwindle. The opposite happened. 😉 Quote
Spider Posted January 7 Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, royal white said: With them smashing a main boat provider you’d expect crossings to dwindle. The opposite happened. 😉 Or they haven’t increased by as much as they may have. Glass half full here Quote
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