kent_white Posted January 7 Posted January 7 12 minutes ago, royal white said: With them smashing a main boat provider you’d expect crossings to dwindle. The opposite happened. 😉 I was reading the other day that we're about to be one of the only other nations in Europe (along with Sweden I think), that has a net balanced immigration number over the past 12 months. I've not fact checked this yet. But if it's true it would suggest the boring, slow, and tortoise approach is working. Quote
Nowack Posted January 7 Posted January 7 28 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Whilst i likely over egged to make a point it just sickens me that loads of paedos get suspended sentences for child porn but I know these days i shouldnt be surprised. "these days" can you explain this? Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 7 Posted January 7 33 minutes ago, royal white said: With them smashing a main boat provider you’d expect crossings to dwindle. The opposite happened. 😉 Smashed thanks to his links to the Kurdish crime boss who was arrested in 2022 in London, then jailed in 2023. All down to proximate cause 😉 Quote
royal white Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 22 minutes ago, kent_white said: I was reading the other day that we're about to be one of the only other nations in Europe (along with Sweden I think), that has a net balanced immigration number over the past 12 months. I've not fact checked this yet. But if it's true it would suggest the boring, slow, and tortoise approach is working. Yep that’s a good thing. Letting more boats come over is not though. Quote
Spider Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, royal white said: Yep that’s a good thing. Letting more boats come over is not though. It is if you want reform to win Quote
kent_white Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Yep that’s a good thing. Letting more boats come over is not though. You can take your likes back anyway! AI thinks the report is bollocks. It was on Times Radio btw if I recall so don't blame me! 😁 Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 7 Posted January 7 11 minutes ago, kent_white said: You can take your likes back anyway! AI thinks the report is bollocks. It was on Times Radio btw if I recall so don't blame me! 😁 https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/ Decent article for you mate Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Nowack said: "these days" can you Charles and Andrew linked to so many known paedophies, so many MPs convicted of possession of child pornography and worse, so many others shying away from and in many cases attempting to derail grooming gang enquiries, the Jimmy Saville cover up......and for us older ones the abomination that was the PIE and the refusal by the police and senior politicians to investigate its members........and the list goes on I'm afraid. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Have there been many mps convicted? I can certainly find a couple at a quick search, but not sure how many. No doubt many suspected etc. Quote
kent_white Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, miamiwhite said: https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/ Decent article for you mate Thanks mate. I thought it sounded strange. Always fact check before BEFORE is tonight's lesson. As you were! 🙂 Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 7 Posted January 7 44 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Have there been many mps convicted? I can certainly find a couple at a quick search, but not sure how many. No doubt many suspected etc. Not too many and there never will be.......like Leon Brittan, Ted Heath and Cyril Smith most have their perversions covered up until they die. Quote
Nowack Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Charles and Andrew linked to so many known paedophies, so many MPs convicted of possession of child pornography and worse, so many others shying away from and in many cases attempting to derail grooming gang enquiries, the Jimmy Saville cover up......and for us older ones the abomination that was the PIE and the refusal by the police and senior politicians to investigate its members........and the list goes on I'm afraid. Fair enough. I hadn't realised "these days" spans the last 50 years. Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Nowack said: Fair enough. I hadn't realised "these days" spans the last 50 years. How about the grooming gangs cover up, including our own mayor? Still ongoing is that enough " these days" for you? Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nowack said: Fair enough. I hadn't realised "these days" spans the last 50 years. And i was explaining why i believe not many politicians will ever be made to face a jury. Edited January 8 by RONNIE PHILLIPS Quote
Nowack Posted January 8 Posted January 8 8 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: How about the grooming gangs cover up, including our own mayor? Still ongoing is that enough " these days" for you? I`m actually agreeing with you (in part), I was just questioning the "these days" element as I thought you were unaware that this sort of thing has been going on for decades if not centuries, which you clarified in your later post. I think too much is referred to as being a modern phenomena which doesn't really help understanding or resolving an issue. Quote
L/H White Posted January 8 Posted January 8 David Coote, suspended sentence for being a nonce Send hurty tweets, get jail Country is a joke Quote
kent_white Posted January 8 Posted January 8 3 hours ago, L/H White said: David Coote, suspended sentence for being a nonce Send hurty tweets, get jail Country is a joke I think we may need to revisit sentencing guidelines for certain offences. I'm not sure that means 'the country is a joke' mind 🙂 Quote
gonzo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Why do they frame it as 'making indecent images' rather than downloading or possessing? Quote
frank_spencer Posted January 8 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Why do they frame it as 'making indecent images' rather than downloading or possessing? There's 3 levels to it I think Making the images is the top tier as you are actively harming kids. Downloading is seeking them out, whereas possession is used if they can't prove you sought out the images but still have them. Quote
kent_white Posted January 8 Posted January 8 37 minutes ago, gonzo said: Why do they frame it as 'making indecent images' rather than downloading or possessing? I think using AI is classed as making indecent images too isn't it? Or photoshopping. Reminds me a Brass Eye! Quote
gonzo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 hours ago, frank_spencer said: There's 3 levels to it I think Making the images is the top tier as you are actively harming kids. Downloading is seeking them out, whereas possession is used if they can't prove you sought out the images but still have them. 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I think using AI is classed as making indecent images too isn't it? Or photoshopping. Reminds me a Brass Eye! That's my point, when they say 'making' it actually only means possession and/or with intent to share. (I used the term only in the loosest possible terms? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 8 Posted January 8 22 hours ago, kent_white said: I was reading the other day that we're about to be one of the only other nations in Europe (along with Sweden I think), that has a net balanced immigration number over the past 12 months. I've not fact checked this yet. But if it's true it would suggest the boring, slow, and tortoise approach is working. That's because so many are fucking off. A total imbalance in terms of quality, wealth etc. Quote
gonzo Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, gonzo said: That's my point, when they say 'making' it actually only means possession and/or with intent to share. (I used the term only in the loosest possible terms? Seems a silly and confusing term to me. Edited January 8 by gonzo Quote
deeane Koontz Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I think using AI is classed as making indecent images too isn't it? Or photoshopping. Reminds me a Brass Eye! Aye, Was listening to a podcast the other week and the comedians hosting it were saying someone they used to gig with had recently been done for making images with AI. Quote
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