Sweep Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: You are correct, and I think in some aspects they are trying to, but it seems the great media of ours won't let it go, its like there's nothing else going on in the world, a bit of positive data from the Government, relayed by the media to the public wouldn't go amiss. Driven by data they say 😏 Data not Dates Go Team Boris ✊ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Grey said: Covid was the 9th leading cause of death in England last month, in Wales it was the 18th. Heart disease was the biggest killer. And the Media are still scaremongering. If im stood next to someone with heart disease I cant catch or die from it, the same cant be said for Corvid , just a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: If im stood next to someone with heart disease I cant catch or die from it, the same cant be said for Corvid , just a point Quite. Covid deaths are low because of the action that has been taken. They occur in addition to other causes, not instead of. Measures are being released as we get on top of things which seems reasonable. I do think the media haven't helped at all during this, but thankfully there is light at the end of the tunnel now. What's it like over there- vast improvement now tango man has gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Quite. Covid deaths are low because of the action that has been taken. They occur in addition to other causes, not instead of. Measures are being released as we get on top of things which seems reasonable. I do think the media haven't helped at all during this, but thankfully there is light at the end of the tunnel now. What's it like over there- vast improvement now tango man has gone? Yes, once the new admin got involved in the distribution of the vaccine things improved no end, the large sites are now being closed and the rest will now be passed on the the like CVS , Walgreens etc, also most large supermarkets have there own pharmacy's and they will also be going shots, I would say within a 5 mile radius from my house I would have a choice of at least 7 places to get a shot if I needed one. The FDC giving emergency approval to 16 and over will also speed this up. Still got issues with the African Americans (and I can see why) and that will take some convincing for them to trust the government, seeing what was done to them in the past Edited May 20, 2021 by tyldesley_white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Yes, once the new admin got involved in the distribution of the vaccine things improved no end, the large sites are now being closed and the rest will now be passed on the the like CVS , Walgreens etc, also most large supermarkets have there own pharmacy's and they will also be going shots, I would say within a 5 mile radius from my house I would have a choice of at least 7 places to get a shot if I needed one. The FDC giving emergency approval to 16 and over will also speed this up. Still got issues with the African Americans (and I can see why) and that will take some convincing for them to trust the government, seeing what was done to them in the past You'd think the white counterparts having the jab would be evidence enough ot it's safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 20, 2021 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You'd think the white counterparts having the jab would be evidence enough ot it's safety. or people, of all colours, dying, the world over then not dying as much once vaccinated you'd think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It's not that it doesn't work or people aren't dying it's a fundamental distrust of the government, that it doesn't act in its best interests. Having a chat with a black colleague of my yesterday and his mum nd dad haven't had the jab even though he went and had it to show them. He was saying its historic and cultural and just shouting get a jab isn't going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You'd think the white counterparts having the jab would be evidence enough ot it's safety. Nothing to do with safety its all about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study Would you want a jab if this had been done to you, I know I wouldn't be to keen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: It's not that it doesn't work or people aren't dying it's a fundamental distrust of the government, that it doesn't act in its best interests. Having a chat with a black colleague of my yesterday and his mum nd dad haven't had the jab even though he went and had it to show them. He was saying its historic and cultural and just shouting get a jab isn't going to work. Asking him about Tuskegee, I'm sure it will open your eyes, or read what Ive posted above about it, then you will understand the mistrust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Spoke to a friend of my daughter’s; a vegan, (not sure if veganism is relevant) She just doesn’t trust it given the time it’s taken to get this vaccine out. She wanted a crystal ball to let her know long term side-effects, etc. It was lost on her that every single vaccine from when vaccines were first invented were new to the early recipients but were still receptive to the potential life saving results. She then pointed out that Thalidomide was a drug to combat morning sickness and we all know what happened there. Edited May 20, 2021 by MickyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, MickyD said: Spoke to a friend of my daughter’s; a vegan, (not sure if vegan is is relevant) who just doesn’t trust that in the time it’s taken to get this vaccine out. She wanted a crystal ball to let her know long term side-effects, etc. It was lost on her that every single vaccine from when vaccines were first invented were new to the early recipients but were still receptive to the potential life saving results. She then pointed out that Thalidomide was a drug to combat morning sickness and we all know what happened there. I'm sure I read that every single person who had the first commercially produced Cholera vaccine, when it was first created by Loius Pasteur in 1880, is now dead, so you can't be too careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, tyldesley_white said: Nothing to do with safety its all about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study Would you want a jab if this had been done to you, I know I wouldn't be to keen As I said, if its not just that group that are having it, but everyone, then the conspiracy/cruelty/ safety issues disappear. Unless you choose to believe the system worldwide is to suppress and control people. Any survivors from that group may be somewhat reticent, but the vast majority aren't from it and ought to be able to see the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 Thalidomide isn't a vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 20, 2021 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2021 Bolton women goes viral after she's interviewed stood in the town centre saying she's too worried to leave the house not to mention the hair styles, nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zico said: Bolton women goes viral after she's interviewed stood in the town centre saying she's too worried to leave the house not to mention the hair styles, nice Newport Street might be her house, seen a few tents knocking about in the town centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zico said: Bolton women goes viral after she's interviewed stood in the town centre saying she's too worried to leave the house not to mention the hair styles, nice It doesn't look great does it, but the clip does seem to have been cut short - she might have actually said "I won't even leave the house, expect to go come go to work / do some shopping" Or she may just be as thick as mince 😊 - either way, those hair styles/colours are pretty shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Sweep said: It doesn't look great does it, but the clip does seem to have been cut short - she might have actually said "I won't even leave the house, expect to go come go to work / do some shopping" Or she may just be as thick as mince 😊 - either way, those hair styles/colours are pretty shit Out of order......leave Spider and his missus alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 So a technical glitch with the test & trace is part of why the Indian variant has spread according to the bbc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Spider said: Thalidomide isn't a vaccine Did someone claim it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggyMountbatten Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Bolton now accounting for over 10% of the UK's Covid cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, LeggyMountbatten said: Bolton now accounting for over 10% of the UK's Covid cases #Massive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, LeggyMountbatten said: Bolton now accounting for over 10% of the UK's Covid cases Close the pubs, lock anywhere with a BL post code down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sweep said: Close the pubs, lock anywhere with a BL post code down Is the correct answer. Army on the streets the lot. In danger of spoiling it for the rest of folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, Sweep said: Close the pubs, lock anywhere with a BL post code down That's most of Bury too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnden Pies Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: That's most of Bury too. Bit unfair on Rivington too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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