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This may take some getting going, but have been thinking how good it would sound with 20 odd thousand singing it, the words are appropriate and I also believe it would be good for the following reasons 1) it's not overly religious, and the words are relevant to the situation Grace could be the collective positive thinking as well as some higher being. 2 ) many none football people who genuinely believe have been praying for him, these people would take a sort of thanks from this. 3) most have sung it a school at some stage and even the older generations could join in 4) Muamba's family are obviously religious and would take a lot from the crowd singing this 9this would be the most important reason) 5 ) it woulds show the un doubted watching world we are more than "yer mams yer dad" merchants who do have a bit of culture. I'm not a bible basher by any stretch of the imagination, I just think this would sound fantastic and rousing as well as appropriate, who knows, it could even develop into the anthem we have been looking for, sung at every game. just my thoughts and the first two verses below, which would be enough. Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, That saved a wretch like me.... I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now, I see. T'was Grace that taught... my heart to fear. And Grace, my fears relieved. How precious did that Grace appear... the hour I first believed.

I once put a nail though a central heating pipe whilst putting floorboards back (rushing to go for a pint), Sunday evening so everywhere was closed, so got some compressor hose that was lying in the shed, cut the pipe and put the hose either side fastened with two jubilee clips, it seemed sound enough I thought til i could get a proper joint the day after and I'll do it right then. still not done it yet over two years now and not leaked once!

I was also feeling a bit down in the dumps today, so I dipped my Pakistani work colleague in bleach. that certainly brightened Mamood.

well if that cigar is coming from Cusacks, i'll expect it to come about December and then be a cigarette, then Wolverhampton will claim that's what I ordered do you know "bluey" in Wolverhampton, or are you bluey?

indeed, and even if you buy a brand new car, once you've been to tesco in it, they're part worn too.

Wolverhampton and Wingates, a connection is Cusacks, you work for them?

fair enough, but, just a word of caution, the dipstick will only tell you the level of oil, you could have loads of oil in but no oil pressure for various reasons, which would also turn the light on, you could have oil in but low oil pressure would f?ck it up too.

I'll also add my endorsement for equippe, used to do all my own repairs/ maintenance, but for what they charge for doing stuff it's not worth the hassle for me now. never been ripped off at one of their places and bare in mind they don't know if i know nowt or owt about cars or not, every time I have been there the faults have been diagnosed spot on and repairs charged reasonable enough for me to think it's not worth me f?cking around on a Sunday doing it myself. took a few to other similar sorts, that apparently "fit things quicker", can guarantee, go in for , say shocks, they'll try and tell you your brake pads need changing or the back shocks need doing. I just tell them to f?ck off, but I wonder how many pay for needless work with them. never had any of that with equippe, both the manny road one and the one in Astley been spot on.

Amen to that mate, fucking amen to that. they no more about that stuff than any good samaritan or prodigal son stuff. listen to this, not getting into catholic discussion, but, youngest kids go to catholic primary school, on devwali or eid or one of them celebrations, 8yr old came home with a red dot on his head as they had a visit explaining what it was about and celebrated it with these visitors, nowt wrong with that really, tolerant to all and help understand differences i suppose, but, on ash wednesday, they didnt come home with ash on their foreheads as they "didn't do it" this year!

too right, should be a staple compulsory subject in my opinion, especially considering most of following conflicts and today's conflicts can find a root cause in it's aftermath. in fairness, the lads school is taking them to Auschwitz in the summer, which will be a good eye opener for people his age

then your teacher was a halfwit. seems to go in cycles, my lad, now 16 is doing WW2, causes an effects on more recent/present trouble, but yet funnily, has never done anything about WW1, whereas I would argue you can't do the cause of WW2 without knowing WW1, or at least the end of it, so not sure how they manage that. when I was his age, history stemmed from Bismarck and the causes of ww1 to he treaty at the end, but never did anyhing on ww2, probably because it was only recently finished (before anyone el se says it)

that line indicates a save, by dictionary definitions.

I work with a lad, who will think nothing of getting a bacon barm or similar from the van, taking a bite, then having a drag of a fag and carry on this alternation until either the fag or the butty is finished, even with a gob full of sandwich, the dirty bastard. now i usually have a smoke when i'm finished, so suppose this is equally dirty habit in some eyes, but Jesus he takes the biscuit, but thinks it's quite normal. He's from Astley Bridge, surely this isn't normal even there?

Boxing?

indeed again, used to be a tree lined boulevard when i was a kid. probably had it's share of not rights then too to be fair, but it is a state now compared to how it used to be, even when i was early 20's it wasn't as bad as it is now., although i did see some interesting sites walking home from the feathers in them days, but nowt like as if i'd make the same trip today and definitely no kids playing football!

"wall-ey " kicking a ball against the wall similar to squash, one touch or two touches agreed prior to start, arguing like f?ck that putting your foot on it to stop it rolling down garstang avenue counted as a touch or not and "no skinners" or "bannanas" allowed, this was when the ball ended up close to the wall so you could kick it sideways still touching the wall but sending it miles away, usually to the bottom of the aforementioned garstang avenue. then argue who's going to "fag" it. played that for hours on end, look at garstang avenue now and can't imagine used to play football on there, can't even cross it sometimes now.

They're shit, 2 yards out,no keeper, and didn't score a single goal in 20 odd attempts.

I did say press also, but yeh, apologies for that, it was a "just got home after a shit day comment" you could be in SA now for all i know. however, you missed the point I was making, which is, you can't call one lot a bunch of nutters and the other all right for doing the same thing. who's to decide which cause is ok to plant bombs, it's either wrong or it's legitimate. Unless you can define when such actions are wholly justified, which you wouldn't be able to. would you support the IRA if you found out, as well as bombing England, they were bombing South Africa? would this fact make them any less the cowardly cuns because all of a sudden they are bombing for a cause you believe in? or would they be terrorists for the bombs in Britain and freedom fighters for the ones in Africa?

without wanting to get into the Ireland thing, this highlighted bit shows, that despite numerous responses from you over 3 pages, you have no idea what you are talking about, and , as others have alluded to, you think mandella is a liberating freedom fighter because the BBC/press in general has told you that. Planting a bomb killing innocent people to achieve a political aim is either terrorism or it's not. make your mind up.

Just spent some time In Lincoln, muck pigs out and rotate the fields for next years crops is the answer, along with hang around in shit tracksuits looking like extras from a Sacha Baron Cohen film.

Grandfather came over from Ireland to guard POW's up in Cumbria, always used to say they were just normal lads who happened to be on a different side, reckons they were genuinely horrified when shown the images of the concentration camps and stats on the round up of jews etc, just as horrified as he was when shown what he was going to be showing them. Nowt to do with the subject, but my uncle still has a silver cigarette box with a German regiment badge on and a picture of some German woman inside, obviously a sweetheart of a prisoner, should have it looked at and valued/displayed somewhere I think, but he just keeps it in the display cabinet at home. and the sweetheart, the picture is from he neck up so I don't know.

used to read the "queue this side" on bus stops as "queen this side". thought that side of the bus stop was for the queen only, and used to tell people they'd get in trouble if the police came for standing in the queens space edit: for sense as keyboard fucked and half of letters didn't appear

watching it, Fascinating and humbling.

no, neither would I, I'd employ a chauffeur to drive it.

easy now, I have an Irish name and of Irish stock, could end up in the caravan of your dreams, all i have to do is grab and a luxury life of feeding horses and counting scrap money awaits