Moderators Casino Posted May 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2023 somebody had to start it.... for me, the easy things, which i think nobody can disagree with get a reliable selling platform give more notice dont do it at 10am no under counter sales maybe more divisive kids season tickets should not be able buy adult match tickets put somebody who has had ST for 5 years ahead of somebody who bought a half season ticket in december - exaggerated to make the point, but a reasonable one, imo. If relegated, it may encourage ST retention definitely more divisive some sort of points system based on attendance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Casino said: somebody had to start it.... for me, the easy things, which i think nobody can disagree with get a reliable selling platform give more notice dont do it at 10am no under counter sales maybe more divisive kids season tickets should not be able buy adult match tickets put somebody who has had ST for 5 years ahead of somebody who bought a half season ticket in december - exaggerated to make the point, but a reasonable one, imo. If relegated, it may encourage ST retention definitely more divisive some sort of points system based on attendance Points system based on away attendance or home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 All great points. If we are in championship there wont be much trouble I shouldn't imagine mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Those who attend away games regularly should clearly have first dibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, Casino said: somebody had to start it.... for me, the easy things, which i think nobody can disagree with get a reliable selling platform give more notice dont do it at 10am no under counter sales maybe more divisive kids season tickets should not be able buy adult match tickets put somebody who has had ST for 5 years ahead of somebody who bought a half season ticket in december - exaggerated to make the point, but a reasonable one, imo. If relegated, it may encourage ST retention definitely more divisive some sort of points system based on attendance I agree with all of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 if points based, how far would you want it back dating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted May 9, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2023 Good points @Casino I agree with most of what you say get a reliable selling platform - YES give more notice - YES dont do it at 10am - YES no under counter sales - YES I actually think the points you think might be divisive should also be implemented. kids season tickets should not be able buy adult match tickets - YES some sort of points system based on attendance - YES Other/lesser clubs use this system it should be done And @mickbrown, not that I’m answering on Casino’s behalf as I think he has a different opinion to me, but both home and away attendance should be taken into account. 10 points per match - so season tickets immediately get 230 points. Maybe additional points as Casino says for long term loyalty. Then for all extra games, including home cup games and away games it’s 10 points every game. The Accy semi (although there were plenty of others - Morecambe, Fleetwood etc) was the best example of how poor our system is. People who hadn’t been to one EFL trophy game, people who aren’t ST holders, and those who hadn’t been to one away game this season were able to get tickets above those who’d watched us around the country. It’ll happen this week/next week when we get stupid 2k allocation away at Barnsley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, L/H White said: if points based, how far would you want it back dating? 1992/93, ideally. For last season and the current? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 The club have been very firm on the subject of some sort of points system, the email response I’ve seen when it was brought up was very much it’s not needed end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 how many of the 23 have we sold out this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeversLeftPeg Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, L/H White said: how many of the 23 have we sold out this season? I think it's about 8 in the league: Forest Green, Accrington, Fleetwood, Shrewsbury, Derby, Morecambe, Exeter, Bristol Rovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, BeeversLeftPeg said: I think it's about 8 in the league: Forest Green, Accrington, Fleetwood, Shrewsbury, Derby, Morecambe, Exeter, Bristol Rovers Exeter wasn’t a sell out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, BeeversLeftPeg said: I think it's about 8 in the league: Forest Green, Accrington, Fleetwood, Shrewsbury, Derby, Morecambe, Exeter, Bristol Rovers Ipswich??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 57 minutes ago, Casino said: kids season tickets should not be able buy adult match tickets From a fans perspective, absolutely. From the clubs point however, if they have (say) 400 of these ST, are they going to want to lose £20k of income ? (as presumebly, the 'hundreds' of unscanned child ST would not be bought if people couldnt get adult tickets. Personally, I'm not sure the number will be that high). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, desperado said: Good points @Casino I agree with most of what you say get a reliable selling platform - YES give more notice - YES dont do it at 10am - YES no under counter sales - YES I actually think the points you think might be divisive should also be implemented. kids season tickets should not be able buy adult match tickets - YES some sort of points system based on attendance - YES Other/lesser clubs use this system it should be done And @mickbrown, not that I’m answering on Casino’s behalf as I think he has a different opinion to me, but both home and away attendance should be taken into account. 10 points per match - so season tickets immediately get 230 points. Maybe additional points as Casino says for long term loyalty. Then for all extra games, including home cup games and away games it’s 10 points every game. The Accy semi (although there were plenty of others - Morecambe, Fleetwood etc) was the best example of how poor our system is. People who hadn’t been to one EFL trophy game, people who aren’t ST holders, and those who hadn’t been to one away game this season were able to get tickets above those who’d watched us around the country. It’ll happen this week/next week when we get stupid 2k allocation away at Barnsley Aye its a tricky one. You have Garrp and his gaggle of nonces down south chipping off all the aways down there but never step foot in reebok. Is a wank Tuesday night at home v Everton under 23s worth less superfan points than an away jolly at Charlton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said: From a fans perspective, absolutely. From the clubs point however, if they have (say) 400 of these ST, are they going to want to lose £20k of income ? (as presumebly, the 'hundreds' of unscanned child ST would not be bought if people couldnt get adult tickets. Personally, I'm not sure the number will be that high). For the Barnsley home game u were only able to buy your ST seat corresponding to age range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeversLeftPeg Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Regardless of how many sold out, the scramble was for Fleetwood, Accy (x2), Morecambe and Bristol Rovers. One incoming for the 2nd leg too. If people wanted tickets for literally any other game this year they could have got them. Should be priority for playoffs for folks who've done the amount some this year have though absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 9, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2023 while i am at it if you are going to have a queuing system, announce it in advance 2 dont start selling earlier than the advertised time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 9, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2023 i wouldnt give points for having a season ticket a st trumps any non season ticket holder, even if they have seen 261 games this season as despo says (cheers lusty) if there is 'loyalty' bonus, same value every game is fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted May 9, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Casino said: while i am at it if you are going to have a queuing system, announce it in advance 2 dont start selling earlier than the advertised time Yep. And if there’s a loyalty scheme introduced, give a window of opportunity to buy. “320 points has from 9am -1pm to secure your tickets” Getting on at 10am sometimes just isn’t possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 9, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted May 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, BeeversLeftPeg said: Should be priority for playoffs for folks who've done the amount some this year have though absolutely. id be proper pissed off if they start playing games like that at this stage announce it in the summer and thats fair enough though it shouldve been announced before folk bought STs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Give me the power, and i decide who gets them once wanderersways gets first call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeversLeftPeg Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Casino said: id be proper pissed off if they start playing games like that at this stage announce it in the summer and thats fair enough though it shouldve been announced before folk bought STs! 100%, can't bring it in now but should be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Don’t get why supporters groups get first dabs either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Don’t get why supporters groups get first dabs either And definitely not pub landlords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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