What's the betting ?

[Dr. Feelgood]

Ivan Toney. 8 month ban. Fck ... took their time (during which he made his Engkand debut) but didn't Duck the point.

Mind you, there were 262 cases !!

BBC News - Ivan Toney banned: Brentford striker given eight-month ban over betting
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65626690

[Zico]

By waiting he gets the summer off as well so really only 6 month ban but that's still the rest of the year and half of next season 

 

[freds dad]

Does he still get paid?

[stevieb]

1 hour ago, freds dad said:

Does he still get paid?

Obvs. 

He'll get to tour hospitals and hospitality lounges as club community ambassador no doubt. 

[Dr. Feelgood]

9 hours ago, freds dad said:

Does he still get paid?

Under employment law the employer could argue his behaviour amounted to gross misconduct & dismiss him without notice.

.... and make him available to all other employers for no transfer value. Losing, maybe £50-80m.

That's simply not going to happen. So he will be fined the max (a month I think) & be paid for the rest. Think of it like an injury really, with no physical damage. 

[Ani]

And he will be back playing before the next major international tournament. 

[gonzo]

I think its harsh tbh. 3 months would've sufficed. And some form of rehab plan.

[Big E]

I think this is ridiculous. He should have been suspended straight away then have been banned with some time served taken off. 
 

The guardian football podcast made a good point. Maybe we need to look at why he was doing it. Was he affecting games or is he addicted. The lad may need help. 

[Casino]

9 hours ago, stevieb said:

Obvs. 

He'll get to tour hospitals and hospitality lounges as club community ambassador no doubt. 

He wont

[RUREADY2ROLL]

12 minutes ago, Big E said:

I think this is ridiculous. He should have been suspended straight away then have been banned with some time served taken off. 
 

The guardian football podcast made a good point. Maybe we need to look at why he was doing it. Was he affecting games or is he addicted. The lad may need help. 

If he was affecting games it should be a life ban; if he has an addiction your right he needs help and is probably getting it via his club.

Edited May 18, 2023 by RUREADY2ROLL

[Zico]

18 minutes ago, Big E said:

 The lad may need help. 

Well he's got time on his hands now 

Hope he doesn't get bored though

[Traf]

10 hours ago, stevieb said:

Obvs. 

He'll get to tour hospitals and hospitality lounges as club community ambassador no doubt. 

 

35 minutes ago, Casino said:

He wont

No, he won't.

Barred from all club/football-related activity, I think.

[Dr. Feelgood]

2 hours ago, Traf said:

No, he won't.

Barred from all club/football-related activity, I think.

Yep. Not allowed to train with the club for 4 months, then can train but not play, for the next 4.

Can be little doubt that 362 football related cases, who know his non-football betting levels, means he has 'a problem'.

[Casino]

Although can see that being reduced on appeal

[Leyther_Matt]

Tbf 362 is a piece of piss to reach in the space of a few accumulators 

[Dr. Feelgood]

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Tbf 362 is a piece of piss to reach in the space of a few accumulators 

You have me at a huge advantage, having never bet. Sounds a lot though.

[Leyther_Matt]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

You have me at a huge advantage, having never bet. Sounds a lot though.

It won’t be 362 individual trips to the bookies. He might have a bet that includes 10 different games, all of which are contributed towards the 362.

I just hope Evatt’s alleged vice is horse racing. 

[little whitt]

As long as its not game's your playing in 

it should not be a problem 

[Dr. Feelgood]

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

I just hope Evatt’s alleged vice is horse racing. 

Jeez, yes. Hopefully.

[Dr. Feelgood]

A bit more detail released &, without being privy to it all, it seems he's lucky not to have had a lifetime van.  Bet on Brentford to lise on 13 occasions.

"Ivan Toney is diagnosed as a gambling addict who bet on his own team to lose 13 times, as full reasons for his eight-month ban from football are revealed".

[jayjayoghani]

25 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

A bit more detail released &, without being privy to it all, it seems he's lucky not to have had a lifetime van.  Bet on Brentford to lise on 13 occasions.

"Ivan Toney is diagnosed as a gambling addict who bet on his own team to lose 13 times, as full reasons for his eight-month ban from football are revealed".

Still not great but he didn't play in any of the 13 matches 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

7 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said:

Still not great but he didn't play in any of the 13 matches 

Remember players getting a life ban for betting on their own clubs before; he is very lucky 

[Big E]

He should be banned for life. However it does show how ridiculous it is that we have so much betting advertised in football and ignore the gambling addict issues 

[Ani]

52 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

A bit more detail released &, without being privy to it all, it seems he's lucky not to have had a lifetime van.  Bet on Brentford to lise on 13 occasions.

"Ivan Toney is diagnosed as a gambling addict who bet on his own team to lose 13 times, as full reasons for his eight-month ban from football are revealed".

Tbf if you are going to mention the 13 games, 11 were whilst he was on loan elsewhere and 2 he was on loan at Wigan and not in the match day squad. He has NOT bet on any game over which he had any direct influence. 

[little whitt]

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Tbf if you are going to mention the 13 games, 11 were whilst he was on loan elsewhere and 2 he was on loan at Wigan and not in the match day squad. He has NOT bet on any game over which he had any direct influence. 

YES but what must the Fans think 

Betting on your Own Team to Lose

CUNT