Not in Crawley Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: I’m telling you now, if prisons were genuinely terrifying he’d think twice. Whether he can spell his own name or not, he’ll know right from wrong. In this case, it is black and white. Don’t rape or murder anyone and you’ll keep your liberty, along with access to a toilet that flushes. You seem to be backtracking He is, but don't blame him for that, 99% of the population think like Spider does on prisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 9, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2023 8 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: I’m telling you now, if prisons were genuinely terrifying he’d think twice. Whether he can spell his own name or not, he’ll know right from wrong. In this case, it is black and white. Don’t rape or murder anyone and you’ll keep your liberty, along with access to a toilet that flushes. You seem to be backtracking Not really Letby and Huntley are clearly cases where they’re complete whackjobs who would have done what they did even if the death penalty still existed. But look, if you’d rather prisons were more like a rehab centre with soft furnishings and reacharounds, that’s up to you. I’m just not keen for rapists to be gently asked not to do it again then given a ticking off and a free hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Spider said: Not really Letby and Huntley are clearly cases where they’re complete whackjobs who would have done what they did even if the death penalty still existed. But look, if you’d rather prisons were more like a rehab centre with soft furnishings and reacharounds, that’s up to you. I’m just not keen for rapists to be gently asked not to do it again then given a ticking off and a free hat. Nobody is saying those things. As with other posters, you’re exaggerating the discussion . Rehabilitation and employment schemes for low level offenders can prevent a significant amount of people from returning. Do you want crime rates reduced and prison populations down? Or are you happy with the way things are currently? Edited September 9, 2023 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Nobody is saying those things. As with other posters, you’re exaggerating the discussion . Rehabilitation and employment schemes for low level offenders can prevent a significant amount of people from returning. Do you want crime rates reduced and prison populations down? Or are you happy with the way things are currently? What schemes would you suggest for those who aren’t low level offenders but are given pathetic jail terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Andy Pilley got 12 years for a fraud. Fair enough. You get for noncing you wouldn't even get a 3rd of that. Thats where the system is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, royal white said: What schemes would you suggest for those who aren’t low level offenders but are given pathetic jail terms? I've said a few times on here that jail terms for rape and murder are often pathetic. If someone with this level of offending is due for release then obviously we need something in place to monitor them to protect the public. Many end up on benefits and costing the taxpayer. I'd at least have scheme that ensures they do community work to earn those benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Been caught, still West London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 9, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2023 6 miles in 3 days. Thought we trained Our Boys better than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 9, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, London Wanderer said: I've said a few times on here that jail terms for rape and murder are often pathetic. If someone with this level of offending is due for release then obviously we need something in place to monitor them to protect the public. Many end up on benefits and costing the taxpayer. I'd at least have scheme that ensures they do community work to earn those benefits. Good idea in principle, but risk assessments mean they can't. Depending upon the level of offence, sometimes they just aren't allowed. Plus it takes a lot of resources to do the monitoring etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66876658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, globaldiver said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66876658 Lolllllll Im not guilty of escaping, I was in my cell the whole time. Brilliant, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, Spider said: Lolllllll Im not guilty of escaping, I was in my cell the whole time. Brilliant, If he ever gets out, there’s a future as a stand up calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 21, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2023 Aye, saw he said not guilty. What an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye, saw he said not guilty. What an idiot. To suggest otherwise would invite an accusation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2023 Why is it even getting as far as a court? Surely they just chuck him back in and his parole gets wiped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 21, 2023 Moderators Share Posted September 21, 2023 If he's back in prison technically he's not guilty of escape Would be my defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 21, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Spider said: Why is it even getting as far as a court? Surely they just chuck him back in and his parole gets wiped? A new offence has been committed., so he has to go through the system. He wasn't previously convicted of anything, so no sentence/parole. I read something before, that this new crime might get a heavier sentence than that for the crime he was awaiting a hearing for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 21, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: A new offence has been committed., so he has to go through the system. He wasn't previously convicted of anything, so no sentence/parole. I read something before, that this new crime might get a heavier sentence than that for the crime he was awaiting a hearing for. Makes sense But fuck me. Pleading not guilty. If his brief gets him off for that then he‘s a fckin magician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Spider said: Makes sense But fuck me. Pleading not guilty. If his brief gets him off for that then he‘s a fckin magician Did anyone see him escape ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 22, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: Did anyone see him escape ? Or see him get re-captured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Or see him get re-captured? There was footage of him being detained on the canal footpath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 22, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, freds dad said: There was footage of him being detained on the canal footpath Good. The only thing I saw was a clip of a bridge with no one on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted September 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, freds dad said: There was footage of him being detained on the canal footpath Was that not that bloke off Coronation Street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Spider said: Makes sense But fuck me. Pleading not guilty. If his brief gets him off for that then he‘s a fckin magician One night at Hicks about 25 years ago, management raided the night shift and found people fast asleep in sleeping bags etc. They were sacked on the spot. Long story short, having appealed for unfair dismissal, the company’s lawyer said they would probably win their case as ‘it was not explicitly stated in their terms of contract that they couldn’t go to sleep in their working hours’ Settled out of court with £10k compensation. Always read the small print. Edited September 22, 2023 by BobyBrno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Kill him. Kill him with fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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