tomski Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pablo said: He is not very good at all, but we can see the situation he has been put in by the club…selling best player and not replacing him, and not being able to give him much backing. Hands tied behind his back really at this point. But as much of a nice fella he seems, he is just not very good. Agree that it seems bigger. Everton job was way too big for him. I’m genuinely not sure who you go for next as you had world class in Ancelloti and he couldn’t really dent it. It reminds me a bit of the gold fish bowl of Newcastle in terms of pressure cooker etc. Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Ani said: I think it probably highlights why a fan on or influencing the Board won't ever work at a multi million pound business level. and he is why we will end up with moyes back, or even dunc. its like we cant see past ex managers or players. Even players we sign….we have had 3 respected directors of football, and apparently have more world wide scouts than any other prem team…yet we sign over prices British or British based players from Burnley and Watford. Quote
Eddie Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pablo said: He is not very good at all, but we can see the situation he has been put in by the club…selling best player and not replacing him, and not being able to give him much backing. Hands tied behind his back really at this point. But as much of a nice fella he seems, he is just not very good. As much as I agree with you about the poor running of the club, lack of overall leadership or plan etc. I do think that if you take a step back and just look at the squad you’ve got, a competent manager would be doing better than you are. I’m not saying fighting for Europe but there’s enough in that squad still IMO to be mid table. I thought avoiding relegation last season was the key as I really didn’t think you’d be back in a genuine relegation fight again, but if you were to actually go down then I can only imagine the financial trouble you’ll be in!? Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2023 Site Supporter Posted January 15, 2023 15 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said: You do realise that Domestic abuse happens against both males & females ? That report has no breakdown of the gender of the abused. Again, nothing to do with inadvertently shooting women and girls, which is the point I made. Gun crime is largely gang related and not heavily linked to domestic issues. Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eddie said: As much as I agree with you about the poor running of the club, lack of overall leadership or plan etc. I do think that if you take a step back and just look at the squad you’ve got, a competent manager would be doing better than you are. I’m not saying fighting for Europe but there’s enough in that squad still IMO to be mid table. I thought avoiding relegation last season was the key as I really didn’t think you’d be back in a genuine relegation fight again, but if you were to actually go down then I can only imagine the financial trouble you’ll be in!? Squad is ok but lacks goals. we cant score and never really creat. richarlison is a massive loss and they replaced a top class player with Brightons 4th choice striker… Lampard has to take blame, nobody denies that…its just people are trying to get to the root of the problem to try and stem the flow. Quote
London Wanderer Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I have worked, in Industrial Relations, in Liverpool for much of the past 40 years. I feel entirely justified in dismissing these fuckers, collectively, as complete workshy, rule-bending, self-absorbed, utter wankers. *& those are the ones WITH jobs ! Ahhh that settles it then 👍 they’re all the same, course they are, how could I have thought any differently? and we wonder why they don’t sing the national anthem Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 15, 2023 Site Supporter Posted January 15, 2023 No one had said its all of them. And I doubt many wonder why they boo the anthem. Quote
Ani Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pablo said: Squad is ok but lacks goals. we cant score and never really creat. richarlison is a massive loss and they replaced a top class player with Brightons 4th choice striker… Lampard has to take blame, nobody denies that…its just people are trying to get to the root of the problem to try and stem the flow. If you go from a guy who starts in WC to as you say Brightons 4th choice it can not be good Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ani said: If you go from a guy who starts in WC to as you say Brightons 4th choice it can not be good And thats the result of the prev 6 years of no organisation or plan from the top of the club. We know sacking lampard and bringing in a moyes or dyche is papering over the grand canyon sized cracks. Quote
e2e4 Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 they'll stay up , their GD is ok compared to some nearby, things might need tweaking a bit. lampard can probably do it. many other batshit teams have stayed up looking miles crazier. fluke it for another season, and stop buying players the manager might not need or want. if they can stop meddling too much theyll be ok. Quote
kent_white Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Pablo said: And thats the result of the prev 6 years of no organisation or plan from the top of the club. We know sacking lampard and bringing in a moyes or dyche is papering over the grand canyon sized cracks. I think you'd be at least 6 points better off if either of them two had been in charge since the beginning of the season. Quote
Eddie Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 58 minutes ago, Pablo said: And thats the result of the prev 6 years of no organisation or plan from the top of the club. We know sacking lampard and bringing in a moyes or dyche is papering over the grand canyon sized cracks. But if it’s the thing that buys you more time to sort the Grand Canyon sized cracks (which I’d imagine are only possible to sort if you have the Prem money) then do you not reckon it’s a necessity - almost a case of some short term decisions to even give you the chance to make long term changes. I appreciate this should have been the case a long time ago by the way, I just don’t think you’ve ever been as close to being fucked (without obviously knowing the finer details). Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, Eddie said: But if it’s the thing that buys you more time to sort the Grand Canyon sized cracks (which I’d imagine are only possible to sort if you have the Prem money) then do you not reckon it’s a necessity - almost a case of some short term decisions to even give you the chance to make long term changes. I appreciate this should have been the case a long time ago by the way, I just don’t think you’ve ever been as close to being fucked (without obviously knowing the finer details). I think a manager change before the world cup start would have probably been better, time for him to work with them and plan some players for him to go for in jan… Any change now and manager may be good, but its also about who we can bring in to help on the pitch now…lamprd players or new panic manager players for us to change again in 6 months!! Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, kent_white said: I think you'd be at least 6 points better off if either of them two had been in charge since the beginning of the season. I agree, stats show lampard as the worst performing manager we have had. Quote
Ani Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Pablo said: And thats the result of the prev 6 years of no organisation or plan from the top of the club. We know sacking lampard and bringing in a moyes or dyche is papering over the grand canyon sized cracks. One bit of light has to be 7 teams including you lot are averaging less than a point a game, and Forest are NOT one of them. So a run of 3 or 4 unbeaten probably sees you moving up. Quote
gonzo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Bournemouth will finish bottom. Their XG is miles the worse in the league. Always catches up. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, London Wanderer said: Ahhh that settles it then 👍 they’re all the same, course they are, how could I have thought any differently? and we wonder why they don’t sing the national anthem Coz they're twats. Not all the same. I know a good dozen I'd trust with your wallet. I have a fuck site more knowledge of them as a group than I dare say you do though. Quote
globaldiver Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 17 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I have worked, in Industrial Relations, in Liverpool for much of the past 40 years. By eck, you deserve some kind of medal. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Ani said: One of the consistent factors was the lack of realistic alternatives. ... & the Board won't sack him. ... & the cluc can't pay ANOTHER £15m to clear out. That seems to have finally dawned on them. Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 48 minutes ago, Ani said: One bit of light has to be 7 teams including you lot are averaging less than a point a game, and Forest are NOT one of them. So a run of 3 or 4 unbeaten probably sees you moving up. Yea it is very close…but 3 or so of them teams look to be adding good players to improve them…im not sure we will. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, stevieb said: Brilliant. Plus, as a guide, if your motto is more than 2 lines long you've lost your audience. Just trying to help. I heard that there are 17 separate 'supporters groups'. Splitters. Quote
Members DirtySanchez Posted January 15, 2023 Members Posted January 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Pablo said: and he is why we will end up with moyes back, or even dunc. its like we cant see past ex managers or players. Even players we sign….we have had 3 respected directors of football, and apparently have more world wide scouts than any other prem team…yet we sign over prices British or British based players from Burnley and Watford. But overseas players from Watford are fine? Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: But overseas players from Watford are fine? Doesn’t show creativity and trust that massive scouting network does it!?! Its almost like they are ignoring the scouts and making rash reactive recent form based decisions!! We have been given lists of players that have been recommended to the club by scouts and DOF for us to sign, for the owner and certain managers to veto, whats the point in dof if this is going to happen. Quote
Pablo Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Coz they're twats. Not all the same. I know a good dozen I'd trust with your wallet. I have a fuck site more knowledge of them as a group than I dare say you do though. Right, to finally reply to this from my own personal point of view. Fair enough you have a view of a concentrated group in a city centre and I would say thats the same for many city centres. For me, my family is split half Liverpool and half bolton. The bolton half is split over 3/4 areas of the town, the scouse side over 2 areas… and its not the scousers that I dont trust and are full of jobless druggy cunts, its my family in this town. Not a pair of jeans or trousers between them…trackies and sports direct shite from head to toe. On tag/in prison, drug addicted, cash in hand, lend me a fiver losers….all from my Bolton side in all the areas the live in. one of my scouse lot even comes to bolton games now n again and some of you have met him….not 1 of my bolton family even support this towns club, in between the crying to social, robbing and begging for the sympathy…they have no time to go the game. All but 1 or 2 of my scouse family work, and go to watch their team every week. Some in this thread throwing names at scousers i know for a fact are much worse than my scouse family, and have been utter scruffy, tax dodging benefit loving, piss pot, trouble making drug taking thugs not many can take the moral high-ground. Thats your bite, thats all your having. 😁 Edited January 15, 2023 by Pablo Quote
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