Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 49 minutes ago, woolli said: They wouldnt have been worse than us if we had played another 10 minutes at ours. We will wait and see. Ive named two that got promoted out of our league who changed manager, you can try to prove me wrong as much as you want, but, sometimes facts make sense. That's desperate stuff, especially as you've insinuated it to be a fact. Quote
woolli Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: Think we were third in budget table. We finished 3rd. Oxford finished 5th and went up, tiny budget, what are you trying to prove Quote
woolli Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That's desperate stuff, especially as you've insinuated it to be a fact. Facts where Oxford and Pompey going up, sorry i have had to simply my facts for you! Quote
gonzo Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 22 minutes ago, woolli said: Oxford finished 5th and went up, tiny budget, what are you trying to prove Nothing. You just said Lincoln, Barnsley, Cheltenham, Fleetwood and Port Vale didn't have the pulling power or budgets as Pompey or Derby, hence they went up 1st and 2nd and the others didn't. I'm saying we were 3rd in budget league and we finished 3rd. Oxford went up because we decided not to turn up on Saturday and were on a roll. It happens a lot in the play offs. Quote
woolli Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 26 minutes ago, gonzo said: Nothing. You just said Lincoln, Barnsley, Cheltenham, Fleetwood and Port Vale didn't have the pulling power or budgets as Pompey or Derby, hence they went up 1st and 2nd and the others didn't. I'm saying we were 3rd in budget league and we finished 3rd. Oxford went up because we decided not to turn up on Saturday and were on a roll. It happens a lot in the play offs. I didnt say anything of the sort, i pointed out that Pompey and Oxford had changed managers and went up. Beevers quoted other teams that had changed there managers and had failed, i said the teams who he quoted didnt have the resources like we have. Which are all facts. Quote
gonzo Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, woolli said: I didnt say anything of the sort, i pointed out that Pompey and Oxford had changed managers and went up. Beevers quoted other teams that had changed there managers and had failed, i said the teams who he quoted didnt have the resources like we have. Which are all facts. My apologies I misread. However we we finished where we should've done relationship to budget. Our positions during the season, Big game shit shows and last weekend are a different kettle of fish all together. We should have been promoted and only us stopped that. End of day, changing managers works for some and for others it doesn't. There's only way to find out... Edited May 23, 2024 by gonzo Quote
radcliffe white Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 40 minutes ago, gonzo said: Nothing. You just said Lincoln, Barnsley, Cheltenham, Fleetwood and Port Vale didn't have the pulling power or budgets as Pompey or Derby, hence they went up 1st and 2nd and the others didn't. I'm saying we were 3rd in budget league and we finished 3rd. Oxford went up because we decided not to turn up on Saturday and were on a roll. It happens a lot in the play offs. Not sure how accurate transfer market is but according to that we spent more than derby & Portsmouth, I guess there’s undisclosed transfers which never come out Quote
woolli Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: My apologies I misread. However we we finished where we should've done relationship to budget. Our positions during the season, Big game shit shows and last weekend are a different kettle of fish all together. We should have been promoted and only us stopped that. End of day, changing managers works for some and for others it doesn't. There's only way to find out... Agree on all counts. Quote
wakey Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 33 minutes ago, gonzo said: There's only way to find out... FIGHT Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 3 hours ago, LodgeMorrWhite said: You have missed my point. Wednesday appointed a relative unknown in Xisco Munoz in pre season who was a total disaster, the worst manager in their history getting 2 points in 10 games. My point being sometimes it is better the devil you know Apart from getting Watford promoted to the prem Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 2 hours ago, woolli said: Facts where Oxford and Pompey going up, sorry i have had to simply my facts for you! That's not what you said. Keep trying. Quote
LodgeMorrWhite Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 24 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Apart from getting Watford promoted to the prem This is exactly my point, you don't always know what you are getting with a new manager and sometimes it is better the devil you know. Munoz was a complete and total disaster at Shef Weds, I don't think there is any argument against that despite what he achieved at Watford. If Evatt gets sacked who do we bring in and who is to know if they will be any better than what we have seen under Evatt. Quote
tomski Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, LodgeMorrWhite said: This is exactly my point, you don't always know what you are getting with a new manager and sometimes it is better the devil you know. Munoz was a complete and total disaster at Shef Weds, I don't think there is any argument against that despite what he achieved at Watford. If Evatt gets sacked who do we bring in and who is to know if they will be any better than what we have seen under Evatt. I can’t bear another year of Evatt Quote
Whitesince63 Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, tomski said: I can’t bear another year of Evatt We’ll brace yourself because I think you’re going to have to. 🥴 Quote
tomski Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, Whitesince63 said: We’ll brace yourself because I think you’re going to have to. 🥴 I agree. Gonna send my season ticket back Quote
tomski Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 I’d like to try sign Alfie Devine from Spurs on loan if we can Quote
gonzo Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 10 minutes ago, tomski said: I’d like to try sign Alfie Devine from Spurs on loan if we can That'd be some intervention. Quote
Traf Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, tomski said: I’d like to try sign Alfie Devine from Spurs on loan if we can I wouldn't... Quote
tomski Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, Traf said: I wouldn't... Not arsed about Wigan pal Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 45 minutes ago, Traf said: I wouldn't... Leigh lad though 👍 Quote
DirtySanchez Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 7 hours ago, LodgeMorrWhite said: This is exactly my point, you don't always know what you are getting with a new manager and sometimes it is better the devil you know. Munoz was a complete and total disaster at Shef Weds, I don't think there is any argument against that despite what he achieved at Watford. If Evatt gets sacked who do we bring in and who is to know if they will be any better than what we have seen under Evatt. He got Watford promoted to the prem Got sacked because Watford are Watford I wouldn't describe someone who achieved that promotion being later appointed by a team in the same country as being relatively unknown Quote
Biggish Dave Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Jack Cork released by Burnley - exactly the type I'd go for if we could convince him to do a 2 year deal on not a fortune Quote
masi 51 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Ivan Sunjic released by Birmingham this summer is the one we should go all out this summer to sign Think Cork will get a Championship club no trouble Quote
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