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Posted
2 hours ago, Stig said:

Christie gives us a proper physical full back option with bags of experience. He won't be doing the overlap for ACD like Cogley can, but then he won't get bullied like Cogley has at times.

I didn't think he was particularly culpable for any of the goals at Burton and I wouldn't be rushing to drop him.

I certainly wasn't suggesting he was to blame for any of the goals, just that his style of play is different to JDC.  As others have said, we aren't going to get many overlapping runs or bursts of pace, but we might get more solid defending and just simply being in the right position to defend.  It depends what SS wants from his RB, I've no strong opinion, I just took the view that I thought SS would want JDCs greater energy/pace and I was surprised he was left out, but if not that's fine too.

Posted
1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I certainly wasn't suggesting he was to blame for any of the goals, just that his style of play is different to JDC.  As others have said, we aren't going to get many overlapping runs or bursts of pace, but we might get more solid defending and just simply being in the right position to defend.  It depends what SS wants from his RB, I've no strong opinion, I just took the view that I thought SS would want JDCs greater energy/pace and I was surprised he was left out, but if not that's fine too.

JDC has so far this season spent his greater pace recovering from being out of position or overlapping but then firing the cross into the fans behind the goal.

Posted
On 12/10/2025 at 17:07, onefinfrandsen said:

My two pence worth, Acd and Burstow possibly the two best players in league one, midfield 5( including Acd) and Taylor in at centre half. Back to basics , start with a point and make sure it’s the least we come away with.

 

If we have the two best players in the division and are 9th then SS really is doing a bad job.

Since his worldie at Orient (which is a third of the season so far) I'm not sure ACD has done anything to warrant that kind of talk.

Posted

Anyway, I'm probably of the opinion that we're doing too much fucking about with the team on a week to week basis.

I'd put Forss back in for Dalby, and Cogley/Erhahon in if they're fit. Other than that keep it the same. Even Cissokho given the lack of other wingers.

Posted
27 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

Anyway, I'm probably of the opinion that we're doing too much fucking about with the team on a week to week basis.

I'd put Forss back in for Dalby, and Cogley/Erhahon in if they're fit. Other than that keep it the same. Even Cissokho given the lack of other wingers.

I think you have a good point.

But it’s in stark contrast those claiming  change all the poor players from Saturday, change the formation and change the tactics.

I’d also prefer to see change, but not as radical and stark as some are suggesting.

An extra midfielder, Tutu and a defensive switch would be more than enough I think. 

Posted

If SS keeps it the same he's deluded/rigid/inflexible.

Make 3 or 4 changes or change the formation and he's losing the plot, doesn't know his best team, tinkering too much.

But if Burstow or ACD choose this game to blast one in from 20 yards he's made the right decisions.

If Burstow or Dalby has a one on one with the keeper after 5 minutes and it doesn't go in, Conway trips their winger in the box and Simons plays with lead in his boots, he's got it all wrong.  Its in the lap of the gods. 

Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

If SS keeps it the same he's deluded/rigid/inflexible.

Make 3 or 4 changes or change the formation and he's losing the plot, doesn't know his best team, tinkering too much.

But if Burstow or ACD choose this game to blast one in from 20 yards he's made the right decisions.

If Burstow or Dalby has a one on one with the keeper after 5 minutes and it doesn't go in, Conway trips their winger in the box and Simons plays with lead in his boots, he's got it all wrong.  Its in the lap of the gods. 

Who’d be a manager! 😂

As well as some well thought out tweaks to address Saturdays debacle, he’s definitely going to need some fortune too along the way.

How about this…

                         TSL

Christie.      Forino  Toal.       Conway

                        Sheehan

 ACD.       Simons.  Morley       Tutu

                        Bairstow 

Enough personnel changes without being too disruptive and a slight formation tweak to tighten us up a bit, without going too left field.

If Sheehan and Toal aren’t available, then Taylor in at the back.. midfield more tricky as you’d probably need a number 10 - Forss as long as he doesn’t isolate the two midfielders. 

 

Edited by desperado
Posted
15 minutes ago, desperado said:

Who’d be a manager! 😂

As well as some well thought out tweaks to address Saturdays debacle, he’s definitely going to need some fortune too along the way.

How about this…

                         TSL

Christie.      Forino  Toal.       Conway

                        Sheehan

 ACD.       Simon’s.  Morley       Tutu

                        Bairstow 

Enough personnel changes without being too disruptive and a slight formation tweak to tighten us up a bit, without going too left field.

If Sheehan and Toal aren’t available, then Taylor in at the back.. midfield more tricky as you’d probably need a number 10 - Forss as long as he doesn’t isolate the two midfielders. 

 

Play Forss instead of Tutu and you have 4 3 3 . Everyone agrees our wingers never cross so have them slightly more central. 
 

Gives us an extra body in midfield. 
 

However even if available I would be surprised if Sheehan is just dropped into a new formation with no time on the training ground. But persisting with 2 wingers and 2 forwards is not sensible.

 

Tutu at times was our best player last year but the drop off as the season progressed meant he was a liability . If he is right back and Cissoko on the left wing I may stay in the pub. ( I won’t really) 

 

YJB upfront will be popular in Yorkshire. 

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Ani said:

Play Forss instead of Tutu and you have 4 3 3 . Everyone agrees our wingers never cross so have them slightly more central. 
 

Gives us an extra body in midfield. 
 

However even if available I would be surprised if Sheehan is just dropped into a new formation with no time on the training ground. But persisting with 2 wingers and 2 forwards is not sensible.

 

Tutu at times was our best player last year but the drop off as the season progressed meant he was a liability . If he is right back and Cissoko on the left wing I may stay in the pub. ( I won’t really) 

 

YJB upfront will be popular in Yorkshire. 

Maybe. I can see it.

But IMO, from what I saw on Saturday I really didn’t like Forss’ contribution. He looked lost and we had nothing down that left side. 

It doesn’t look like we have the same opinion about keeping the wide players (and thats fine). But if it’s not Tutu, I think I’d prefer Conway on the left.

If Forss plays I’d rather see him in the number 10.

I tend to agree re Sheehan and Toal. I think the bench more likely (if they are available) 

And I like your YJB reference, very good (it’s now on auto spell and comes out like that as soon as I start typing!) 😁👏

Edited by desperado
Posted
36 minutes ago, desperado said:

How about this…

                         TSL

Christie.      Forino  Toal.       Conway

                        Sheehan

 ACD.       Simons.  Morley       Tutu

                        Bairstow

When I saw Toal at left centre back, I shuddered. He’s been struggling at right centre back but woeful on the left.

But then I saw you’d put cricketer up top, and realised you were joking. 😉

Posted
8 hours ago, Rival Son said:

When I saw Toal at left centre back, I shuddered. He’s been struggling at right centre back but woeful on the left.

But then I saw you’d put cricketer up top, and realised you were joking. 😉

Bairstow (damn the auto correct) could open up our scoring early, he’d provide a bit of aggression up top with his Yorkshire grit. Catching the defence on the hop. I don’t think he’d become stumped after an early miss this week. He’s definitely worth a run out 

Posted
10 hours ago, desperado said:

Who’d be a manager! 😂

As well as some well thought out tweaks to address Saturdays debacle, he’s definitely going to need some fortune too along the way.

How about this…

                         TSL

Christie.      Forino  Toal.       Conway

                        Sheehan

 ACD.       Simons.  Morley       Tutu

                        Bairstow 

Enough personnel changes without being too disruptive and a slight formation tweak to tighten us up a bit, without going too left field.

If Sheehan and Toal aren’t available, then Taylor in at the back.. midfield more tricky as you’d probably need a number 10 - Forss as long as he doesn’t isolate the two midfielders. 

 

Yeah I like that team. My suggestions assumed Toal and Sheehan weren't available so went with Taylor at left CB and Forss in the 10, but I'd prefer 433 for this. And I agree with Ani's suggestion of Forss on the left for Tutu. Him playing left in a 433 is a different proposition to the 424 we were playing most of Saturday.

The one bit I don't agree with though, is keeping TSL in. At this stage it's counter productive as everything is going in, and I'd argue he should have stopped the second v Burton and the third was a calamity. Either he's not very good or out of form. Either way take him out of the team to work on it.

Posted
17 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Cristie isn't a wingback type of right back you'll not get the overlapping runs like you do with JDC and Tutu.

No, hes a proper right back, just what we need!

Posted
2 hours ago, Stig said:

Yeah I like that team. My suggestions assumed Toal and Sheehan weren't available so went with Taylor at left CB and Forss in the 10, but I'd prefer 433 for this. And I agree with Ani's suggestion of Forss on the left for Tutu. Him playing left in a 433 is a different proposition to the 424 we were playing most of Saturday.

The one bit I don't agree with though, is keeping TSL in. At this stage it's counter productive as everything is going in, and I'd argue he should have stopped the second v Burton and the third was a calamity. Either he's not very good or out of form. Either way take him out of the team to work on it.

I didn't quite see it like that.  In fact I was quite impressed that he actually made a half decent save for the 1st (before the rebound went in).  I'd find it hard to fault him on that.  With the 3rd, I've thought since day 1 he comes off his line too much, and its just a matter of time before he's lobbed, but if he'd stayed around his 6 yard box for the 3rd it would have looked odd (although the Northampton keeper did v Burstow and it worked!).  A bigger calamity would have been if he'd stopped the striker at all costs and got himself sent off (not so important at that stage of the game, but different if its 1st half). 

As annoying as it is that 90% of shots go in, its still hard to say he should absolutely be keeping out these goals.  If he'd made 10 saves in that game and still conceded those 3, no blame would have been attached.  Its a really bizarre situation to play so many games without it being obvious if you're upto it partly because we hardly have any shots to face (and his handling and kicking is decent too).

Posted
5 hours ago, desperado said:

Bairstow (damn the auto correct) could open up our scoring early, he’d provide a bit of aggression up top with his Yorkshire grit. Catching the defence on the hop. I don’t think he’d become stumped after an early miss this week. He’s definitely worth a run out 

Definitely would help if he sweeps a goal in or two

Posted
17 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

If we have the two best players in the division and are 9th then SS really is doing a bad job.

Since his worldie at Orient (which is a third of the season so far) I'm not sure ACD has done anything to warrant that kind of talk.

ACD was shocking at Burton; no better than the dreadlocks fella

Posted

If it's up to me, i'd go forino and forrester with taylor at LB and cogley at RB. Love forrester, he's a warrior and was all over it at huddersfield last year.

Posted
1 minute ago, bwfc4ife said:

If it's up to me, i'd go forino and forrester with taylor at LB and cogley at RB. Love forrester, he's a warrior and was all over it at huddersfield last year.

Agree apart from Taylor- he was very poor Saturday 

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