Carlos Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 So it might say it, it might not, it might be misinterpreted, erm I don't know, maybe erm, lets move on quickly and throw shit elsewhere. You sound like Griffin did last night. You're far more intelligent than him, is there a reason can't you take exactly what he said and prove him wrong? I don't even know what language the Koran is written in let alone speak it. Then again I'm not the one quoting from it, I just don't believe it says exactly what he claims. The reason I can't disprove this, like I've already said, is because I really don't care. Do I have to prove the holocaust actually happened too?
Maggie Tate Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 The point is that Griffin uses the 'Islam is wicked' line as a substitute for his old 'We hate Pakis' line. During the Edinburgh Fringe I went to see Marcus Brigstocke who's on telly from time to time and he spent most of his show giving Islam the most fearful bashing. He was far more damning and offensive than Griffin was last night. But then he's not motivated by the desire to kick them all out of the country, he just wants folk to get along. This is what I mean when I keep saying that someone needs to take ownersip of the anti Islamic extremist cause because there is a lot of mileage in it for Griffin, and his lot know more about how to talk to the man on the street than any Labour champagne socialist or Tory posh kid will ever do. Mainstream politicians have GOT to start talking about this stuff or else Griffin's going to pick up votes irrespective of how much of a cunt he looks on Question Time.
Maggie Tate Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I don't even know what language the Koran is written in let alone speak it. Then again I'm not the one quoting from it, I just don't believe it says exactly what he claims. The reason I can't disprove this, like I've already said, is because I really don't care. Just look how qualified to speak you are!
MickyD Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Just been on BBC news. Some folkwho do opinion pollsdid one yesterday and another one today. It seems BNP support has gone up 20 points in 24 hours. This is, of course, a short term gain, Most of the people who claim to now support BNP will find a million and three reasons to switch to Tory, then Labour, Lib-Dem, BNP again, Green, Labour again, etc., between now and the General Election in May.
M G WHITES Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Might have something to do with the fact that a large minority of Moslems preach hatred to the western way of life, fight our boys in Afghanistan, despite them being born here and benefiting from everything that this country has given them, add to that the murder of innocent people in the U.S. and the bombs and countless plots to blow up innocent people here in the U.K. I am not a BNP follower but some of there policies are common sense, I would be considered a typical labour voter coming from a working class background of a council estate, but after seeing Jack Straw and the rest of this hideous labour party perform over the last few years I am embarrased for them. P.S.This Unite against facism mob are more dangerous than the BNP will ever be, traitors to the british way of life. Afcukingmen
Maggie Tate Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Funny how the BNP claim to be against immigration yet are so keen to point out how well they're doing with the Poles.
C86 Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Funny how the BNP claim to be against immigration yet are so keen to point out how well they're doing with the Poles. At least the Poles graft (tongue in cheek)
Smiffs Posted October 23, 2009 Author Posted October 23, 2009 I don't even know what language the Koran is written in let alone speak it. Then again I'm not the one quoting from it, I just don't believe it says exactly what he claims. The reason I can't disprove this, like I've already said, is because I really don't care. Do I have to prove the holocaust actually happened too? No, that would be very silly. What I'm saying is rather than waving sticks of celery in the air, prove the numb cunt wrong instead of just demonising him. It's really not that difficult to grasp. But no, its conveniently swerved, and not one of those spinless politicians last night got anywhere near it either. They dare not be even a teeny weeny bit critical of the Koran or Islam on Question Time, fuck no. Political suicide. Throw some shit elsewhere. Even the Muslim who asked the question shat out and started 'yeh but yeh but, erm what about the bible'. Why is that do you think? Do you think it might be that the Koran does say it, and some Muslims do treat wimmin like shit, or think they should kill non beleivers. I'll have a wild guess that it does becasue if it didn't say shite like that you wouldnt have the likes of that one eyed hook handed terrorist cunt banging on about it and whipping up support would you? Having (anti)facists and spinless politicians throwing shit at Nick Griffin whilst Muslim terrorist walk our streets is fucking pointless. Total waste of fucking time. I'd even vote for him just to piss that shower of worthless shit off. But that lass from the British Museum, now she was very clever. You lot could learn a lot from her about how to defeat the BNP.
M G WHITES Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 No, that would be very silly. What I'm saying is rather than waving sticks of celery in the air, prove the numb cunt wrong instead of just demonising him. It's really not that difficult to grasp. But no, its conveniently swerved, and not one of those spinless politicians last night got anywhere near it either. They dare not be even a teeny weeny bit critical of the Koran or Islam on Question Time, fuck no. Political suicide. Throw some shit elsewhere. Even the Muslim who asked the question shat out and started 'yeh but yeh but, erm what about the bible'. Why is that do you think? Do you think it might be that the Koran does say it, and some Muslims do treat wimmin like shit, or think they should kill non beleivers. I'll have a wild guess that it does becasue if it didn't say shite like that you wouldnt have the likes of that one eyed hook handed terrorist cunt banging on about it and whipping up support would you? Having (anti)facists and spinless politicians throwing shit at Nick Griffin whilst Muslim terrorist walk our streets is fucking pointless. Total waste of fucking time. I'd even vote for him just to piss that shower of worthless shit off. But that lass from the British Museum, now she was very clever. You lot could learn a lot from her about how to defeat the BNP. The main reason why i only watched 1 minute of it,made me sick,Straw was so kissing the Muslims ass it was untrue
bolty58 Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Seems we have plenty on here who still believe in free speech. Restores my faith in Britain. Some other political party needs to have the balls to pick up the baton on the immigration and extreme Islam debate so it becomes a legitimate issue which it already is with millions of Brits. At the moment, the only party with the guts to talk about it are soiled goods.
Freddie_Hill Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Seems we have plenty on here who still believe in free speech. Restores my faith in Britain. Some other political party needs to have the balls to pick up the baton on the immigration and extreme Islam debate so it becomes a legitimate issue which it already is with millions of Brits. At the moment, the only party with the guts to talk about it are soiled goods. If UK politicians are like their aussie cousins they'll have a "Gentleman's Agreement" in place to keep immigration OFF the agenda.
Mounts Kipper Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) aye them catholics should be sent back to Italy where they came from [/quote One fault Frank,everyone in Britain was catholic before Henry decided he wanted to get divorced and therefore the catholic british state was our own doing, the Moslem issue is completely different, just to point out my view to avoid confusion, I have no problem with Moslems who are here legally and do not have anti west agenda and have contributed and integrated into our way of life. Although I do think that immigration should now be drastically reduced if not virtually stopped. Edited October 24, 2009 by Mounts Kipper
frank_spencer Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Immigration isn't an issue to me as long as they're working legally. As soon as a none brit breaks the law, rather than being locked up in our comfy (by comparrison) jails, they should be packed off to whence the came never to step foot on our shores again. I don't care how much of a 3rd world shithole it may be, if they want to live on our fair isle then obey the laws or get out. Maybe i've been lucky but i've yet to experience 1st hand the supposed massive numer of west hating muslims trying to destroy us all. and all the muslims i have known have all be more critical of the extremists than possibly even Bolty. This is the reason i stick up for Muslims because the vast majority of them don't fit this woman beating west hating template, i don't deny there are many out there. But as long as there are people in the middle east like President Armedinajad sputing of about the Zionist evils of the west, then there will be impressionable Muslims over here beliveing the rhetoric.
Whites man Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 If UK politicians are like their aussie cousins they'll have a "Gentleman's Agreement" in place to keep immigration OFF the agenda. Where are you from? Where do you live?
Ani Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Might have something to do with the fact that a large minority of Moslems preach hatred to the western way of life, fight our boys in Afghanistan, despite them being born here and benefiting from everything that this country has given them, add to that the murder of innocent people in the U.S. and the bombs and countless plots to blow up innocent people here in the U.K. I am not a BNP follower but some of there policies are common sense, I would be considered a typical labour voter coming from a working class background of a council estate, but after seeing Jack Straw and the rest of this hideous labour party perform over the last few years I am embarrased for them. P.S.This Unite against facism mob are more dangerous than the BNP will ever be, traitors to the british way of life. if your note said a tiny minority it would be accurate. countless plots ?? i could count on the fingers of captain hook on how many i have heard of. so you are either MI6 or shit at counting. this note sums up why the BNP have so much support, you take facts, and then exagarate the numbers.
Mounts Kipper Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 if your note said a tiny minority it would be accurate. countless plots ?? i could count on the fingers of captain hook on how many i have heard of. so you are either MI6 or shit at counting. this note sums up why the BNP have so much support, you take facts, and then exagarate the numbers. Rgarding plots there have been a good few cases that have come to court both here in the U.K. Australia I would suggest that many plots do not come to fruition for one reason or another and one plot that reaches fruition is one too many. Many of the killings in Afghanistan are made by british born Moslems who are conducting Jihad against our soldiers. In my view the majority of Moslems all over the world do not like western society, America,Israel and the U.K. are singled out for demonisation, yet many of these same Moslems live, work and choose to to reap the benefits of our lifestyle and society, is that not hypocrisy? This is a clash of 2 very different cultures, I for one do not want our country going further down the road of Islamification, the likes of unite against fascism are a fascist organisation themselves, they do not want freedom of speech and in my view are Anti everything British. Britain in general is a great model for multiculturism, however the likes of UAF and Moslem extremist will do more damage than the BNP could ever do. The reason for this is that they are turning normally mild and right thinking British people towards extremist right wing parties. This not helped by the controlling parties Labour and the Tories not dealing or speaking out about immigration because they do not want to offend there supporters that may come from various ethnical backgrounds. P.S. Ian, I am not and never have voted BNP.
Maggie Tate Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Many of the killings in Afghanistan are made by british born Moslems who are conducting Jihad against our soldiers. Horseshit I stopped reading at that point
Mounts Kipper Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Horseshit I stopped reading at that point It was documented by British soldiers that they were listening to Taliban fighters with Birmingham accents is that a mistruth? I bow to your superior knowledge if it is. I would be interested if you read the rest of my views and counter them, if not I will disregard anything else you say.
frank_spencer Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Rgarding plots there have been a good few cases that have come to court both here in the U.K. Australia I would suggest that many plots do not come to fruition for one reason or another and one plot that reaches fruition is one too many. Many of the killings in Afghanistan are made by british born Moslems who are conducting Jihad against our soldiers. In my view the majority of Moslems all over the world do not like western society, America,Israel and the U.K. are singled out for demonisation, yet many of these same Moslems live, work and choose to to reap the benefits of our lifestyle and society, is that not hypocrisy? This is a clash of 2 very different cultures, I for one do not want our country going further down the road of Islamification, the likes of unite against fascism are a fascist organisation themselves, they do not want freedom of speech and in my view are Anti everything British. Britain in general is a great model for multiculturism, however the likes of UAF and Moslem extremist will do more damage than the BNP could ever do. The reason for this is that they are turning normally mild and right thinking British people towards extremist right wing parties. This not helped by the controlling parties Labour and the Tories not dealing or speaking out about immigration because they do not want to offend there supporters that may come from various ethnical backgrounds. P.S. Ian, I am not and never have voted BNP. WTF does that even mean?
no balls Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 WTF does that even mean? It's not a word he's just made up. http://sheikyermami.com/2009/03/19/muslim-...ithin-30-years/ Somehow though I doubt I'll ever be wearing a burka or walking behind a bloke because he told me too.
frank_spencer Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 It's not a word he's just made up. http://sheikyermami.com/2009/03/19/muslim-...ithin-30-years/ Somehow though I doubt I'll ever be wearing a burka or walking behind a bloke because he told me too. So let me get this straight a Muslim MP makes reference to the fact there is becoming more muslim MP's ?In 1997 we got our first Muslim MP. In 2001 we had two Muslim MPs. In 2005 we had four Muslim MPs. In ?a Allah, in 2009 (or) 2010 we?ll have eight or ten Muslim MPs. In 2014 we?ll have 16 Muslim MPs. At this rate the whole parliament will be Muslim.? then a jokey throwaway remark which the blog writter interprets as meaning he's planning a take over of the country? He also states he hope one day to see a muslim Prime Minister ?I am confident, as Britain?s first Muslim minister, that, in ?a Allah, in the next thirty years or so, we?ll see a prime minister who happens to share my faith,? Ooooh he iss a scary scary man. Quick everybody to the pitchforks!
no balls Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Don't shoot the messenger, Frank. Hence my facetious remark below the link. Though, I'd like to think the last comment you quoted will never happen . Edited October 24, 2009 by no balls
Mounts Kipper Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 So let me get this straight a Muslim MP makes reference to the fact there is becoming more muslim MP's then a jokey throwaway remark which the blog writter interprets as meaning he's planning a take over of the country? He also states he hope one day to see a muslim Prime Minister Ooooh he iss a scary scary man. Quick everybody to the pitchforks! Too be Frank Frank you scare me more.
Spider Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 So let me get this straight a Muslim MP makes reference to the fact there is becoming more muslim MP's then a jokey throwaway remark which the blog writter interprets as meaning he's planning a take over of the country? He also states he hope one day to see a muslim Prime Minister Ooooh he iss a scary scary man. Quick everybody to the pitchforks! Tell you what, if a Muslim ever leads Great Britain I'l personally pay for everyone a taxi to France. Over my, and many other, dead bodies will that day come.
frank_spencer Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Don't shoot the messenger, Frank. Hence my facetious remark below the link. Though, I'd like to think the last comment you quoted will never happen . I'm hopefull that in 30 years religion will cease to be the issue that it is today. 30yrs ago Nick Griffin and his ilk would've been worried about the blacks coming in and taking over the country, they've now got a new scapegoat for their fear and insecurities. In 30 years time no doubt they'll be worried about some other race ruining the country and the PM will still be a Privately educated posh git trying to be one of the people
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