HomerJay Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Or the fact they've had world class strikers and all their strikers should be better than anything in a white shirt. Quote
indra Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 I couldn't give a shit if he is lazy etc etc this guy must start games. He is a bigger goal threat alone than N'Gog, Davies and Tuncay combined. I have said this all along Quote
Ben Der Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 For me Ngog is good at what he does. he holds it up well and i thought today he did pressure from the front really well. When we hoof it up field from a corner and he is the only man there, he can keep hold of it until support arrives. Klasnic/Tuncay/ Sordell (maybe) would more than likely just try and go it alone and loose it and the ball would come right back. For the way we play I think he fits in well. Quote
Didledee Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) The problem I have with N'Gog is that he does something really well, then messes up, it's like he get's over excited and loses concentration. Today he did a nice little bit of skill to put the ball ahead of him and he got round a defender, but then completely rushed is shot and it ended up being a tame very wide daisy cutter, also he did well to gain yards with the ball, he checked back and had many options, but with very little back lift, he attempted a cross ball to Petrov that wasn't even close to reaching him and it got cut out. He can chest and control the ball well and works hard, but he's not really gonna score many goals, if his game time already is to go by, can Klasnic play up top in 4-5-1, I'm not sure, got much more confidence in him in front of goal though, that left foot has got us points on so many occasions. Ideally we could play 4-4-2, maybe once we get Lee and Holden back we may see it again and hope to play the way we did between August 2011- December 2011. Edited March 10, 2012 by Didledee Quote
frank_spencer Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 For me the problem isn't with N'Gog its that no cunt is getting up and supporting him when he's won the ball leaving him to lose it. Drogba in his prime would struggle with the support N'Gog gets. Quote
whoareya? Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 For me the problem isn't with N'Gog its that no cunt is getting up and supporting him when he's won the ball leaving him to lose it. Drogba in his prime would struggle with the support N'Gog gets. Apart from Pratley, of course, but obviously he doesn't count. Quote
enzo gambaro Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 I got slated on here last week for suggesting Klasnic as he is our top scorer and today I feel he justified my comments. I don't think anyone said he couldn't do fifteen minutes. Quote
frank_spencer Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Apart from Pratley, of course, but obviously he doesn't count. He should be getting up with N'Gog but going off todays game he clearly isn't. Quote
Juan.Kerr Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Can't see the point in playing Ngog with two wingers when my mum could beat him in the air. He iis probably our best option for a full game, but I think Klasnik is worth more than the last ten minutes in a shit or bust but stalemated game. Quote
birch-chorley Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 today we got in behind the full backs and got deliveries into the box, Ngog doesnt get near them. When Gretar won the ball 2/3 times on the trot and ended up out wide Ngog had the perfect opportunity to attack the front post, instead he hid behind the defender. If we get out wide as much as today then Klasnic will clean up. Start him and if / when he runs out of gas sub him off. Dont bring him on to firefight, win the game early on. Quote
HomerJay Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Steinsson struggled with ryo IMO No understanding between them at all. Ryo plays on his own with his head down Quote
enzo gambaro Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) Steinsson struggled with his touch and distribution. Ryo was the least of his worries. Edited March 10, 2012 by enzo gambaro Quote
HomerJay Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Steinsson struggled with his touch and distribution. Ryo was the least of his worries. I didn't notice anything wrong with any if those 2 things. I did notice his crossing was shite and when he attempted overlapping ryo, ryo just ran across him leaving steinsson committed once ryo was tackled. Quote
Didledee Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Does Steinsson understand English or Bogdan?, he often heads the ball out for a corner when he's under no pressure and could let it go, it can be seen as safety first but there doesn't seem to be much communication and it only results in more unnecessary pressure and considering we have everyone back for corners, it's almost like giving the opposition a big passage of football in attacking areas, unless the set piece is gathered by Bogdan or goes out for a goal kick or throw to us we clear the ball and we have to defend again, because we have no out ball, counter attacks are being missed out because of this negative unneeded defending corner tactic. Quote
athywhite1958 Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 Bring in technology then the players can understand each other, sorted. Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 who was Klas angry with when he scored? Quote
SalfordOriginal Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 who was Klas angry with when he scored? It looked like it was aimed towards Coyle Quote
MalcolmW Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Does Steinsson understand English or Bogdan?, he often heads the ball out for a corner when he's under no pressure and could let it go, it can be seen as safety first but there doesn't seem to be much communication and it only results in more unnecessary pressure and considering we have everyone back for corners, it's almost like giving the opposition a big passage of football in attacking areas, unless the set piece is gathered by Bogdan or goes out for a goal kick or throw to us we clear the ball and we have to defend again, because we have no out ball, counter attacks are being missed out because of this negative unneeded defending corner tactic. All children in Iceland learn English at school. Bogdan has been around long enough to understand the language, I think. Quote
BOWTUN BAKED Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 As a goal scorer Klas is streets ahead of anything we've got, anyone who can't see that needs to lick their windows, try building a team round his strengths rather than expect him to be a lone striker which he's not. (await the if's & buts brigade :yawn: ) Quote
Guest Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 As a goal scorer Klas is streets ahead of anything we've got, anyone who can't see that needs to lick their windows, try building a team round his strengths rather than expect him to be a lone striker which he's not. (await the if's & buts brigade :yawn: ) trouble is, you'd need 11 more players! Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 trouble is, you'd need 11 more players! Or 10 Quote
MickyD Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Does Steinsson understand English or Bogdan?, he often heads the ball out for a corner when he's under no pressure and could let it go, it can be seen as safety first but there doesn't seem to be much communication and it only results in more unnecessary pressure and considering we have everyone back for corners, it's almost like giving the opposition a big passage of football in attacking areas, unless the set piece is gathered by Bogdan or goes out for a goal kick or throw to us we clear the ball and we have to defend again, because we have no out ball, counter attacks are being missed out because of this negative unneeded defending corner tactic. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I personally would rather the bloke who's paid to play football makes the decision on whether or not to play it or leave it. You'd soon be on here if he left it and then an opponent sneaks in and the resulting cross leads to a goal. If Stiensson's stood on the edge of the box, looking towards the goal, he'd need to be absolutely 100% positive that nobody got round his blind side waiting to pounce. If he wasn't and he opted to leave the ball to chance he'd deserve to lose his place in the team. Quote
darwen_white Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 It looked like it was aimed towards Coyle It was definitely aimed towards OC Quote
enzo gambaro Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 As a goal scorer Klas is streets ahead of anything we've got, anyone who can't see that needs to lick their windows, try building a team round his strengths rather than expect him to be a lone striker which he's not. (await the if's & buts brigade :yawn: ) Go on then, smarty pants. Let's hear how. Quote
peebles Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 It looked like it was aimed towards Coyle He even gave it the 'up yours' gesture you see so often in Scottish grounds, then looked over his left shoulder towards the bench. Little doubt it was aimed at Coyle. Quote
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