Gartside Out

[barrycowdrill]

Okay, no offence intended.  It was just an assumption.

 

The bit about how Gartside leaving us would benefit us is a genuine question to anybody who supports this 'protest'.  I'm not taking the piss, I'd just like to know what they think his replacement could do better than Gartside currently does and how that would benefit the club going forward.

 

they may have a very valid case, they may not. but people vilifying them without hearing that first doesnt help either does it?

[Bobcat]

ive been registered on this site for a while and very rarely post. read an awful lot and dont feel the need to give my opinion on incidents no matter how accurate/inaccurate i feel they have been relayed.

 

but those 2 accounts of what happened are absolute garbage.

 

they unfurled the banner as the teams came out, right at the front of the stand. it was up for a minute or 2. numerous people taking photos etc. that was right in front of me.

 

the lads then took up seats 2 rows behind me, unfurled it again. 1 or 2 people told them to "get it down" they got told to fuck off! didnt say another word

 

as anewman has stated the stewards then asked them politiely to take it down. the lads did so and then got it back at the end of the game.

 

whether you agree with what they did or not, they paid there money, went to the game so therefore have the right to express whatever they want. which is more than can be said for the vast majority of people on here!!

 

so rather than post inaccurate rubbish and over inflate your role to gain kudos on a messageboard, why not post the truth or say nothing. as you make yourself look rather stupid

that could well be applied to 90% of the self righteous cunts on here

[Carlos]

why should they do that? if they dont want to post on here they wont.

 

i will reiterate again, i am not defending them. my view is irrelevant. im sure they would be more than happy to have a discussion about it at the next home game for example with anyone that wants to listen to their reasons?...

And why wouldn't they? It's not difficult, just put your point across, is there anything behind it other than Gartside Out?

 

I know you aren't defending them, and I'm not particularly having a go. I'd like to know more. What's the masterplan?

[Sweep]

 I'd just like to know what they think his replacement could do better than Gartside currently does and how that would benefit the club going forward.

 

It's not a question anybody can answer really. Personally, I don't care if he stays or goes. I don't particularly like the bloke, but I'm not sure that things would automatically become far better for us if he wasn't here. I don't think it makes a great deal of difference who is in the "top seat" as whoever it is pretty much has to do Eddie Davies bidding anyway. I've no doubt that some of the "Gartside Out" brigade are also under the illusion that he's swindling the club out of countless millions each year and pocketing absolute fortunes (even though the yearly audited accounts show this isn't the case)

 

If people don't like how the club is being run, then surely the ED has to be equally as culpable and therefore he should be part of the protest to

[Traf]

 

 

traff - that isnt the point is it?  i havent mentioned booing. there was no booing. they unfurled a banner

 

 

You didn't mention booing, I did.

I asked if you thought booing them was acceptable, because you actually said ..."they paid there money, went to the game so therefore have the right to express whatever they want."

[Kane57]

I'd just like the GARTSIDE OUT mob to give us genuine reasons why they want him out, rather than just "he iz bent, :lol:" or similar

[barrycowdrill]

You didn't mention booing, I did.

I asked if you thought booing them was acceptable, because you actually said ..."they paid there money, went to the game so therefore have the right to express whatever they want."

 

i then later said within reason.

 

i dont condone booing of my own players, never have and never will. if i ever witnessed it i would have something to say.

 

but i wouldnt post what i said and the results of that inaccurately. that was my original point

[barrycowdrill]

And why wouldn't they? It's not difficult, just put your point across, is there anything behind it other than Gartside Out?

 

I know you aren't defending them, and I'm not particularly having a go. I'd like to know more. What's the masterplan?

thats their decision, they may frequent other message boards or social media sites where theyre explaining their reasons....

 

and again, i have no idea what the masterplan is, why not ask them directly? im sure you could be pointed in the the right direction?

 

i personally couldnt give a toss whether he went or not. for every good thing hes done for the club no doubt there will be a bad one. but that goes with the vast majority of people in any role.

[Sweep]

I'd just like the GARTSIDE OUT mob to give us genuine reasons why they want him out, rather than just "he iz bent, ::lol::" or similar

.....or

 

He didn't allow us to sign Drogba, E'to, Ribery etc as he was too tight

He fell out with Allardyce and forced him out of the club

He appointed Megson, Coyle and Freedman

He didn't stump up the extra money so that we could push for Champions League Football when we had the chance

He dyes his hair......oops, that's somebody else

 

That should just about cover it

[Traf]

i then later said within reason.

 

i dont condone booing of my own players, never have and never will. if i ever witnessed it i would have something to say.

 

but i wouldnt post what i said and the results of that inaccurately. that was my original point

 

Cheers, on both counts.

I wasn't trying to trip you up.

[Sweep]

i personally couldnt give a toss whether he went or not. for every good thing hes done for the club no doubt there will be a bad one. but that goes with the vast majority of people in any role.

 

I agree, he's probably no better or worse than the Chairman of most other football clubs. You speak to fans of most clubs and they all reckon their Chairman is shit and "on the take" we're no different to that really

[Pablo]

The recent interview he gave on TalkSport was great, he came across as a real gent that loves his job and club, he sounded ambitious, and did not make himself sound like a tit. He did also NOT make it sound like he is doing you a favour.

[Kane57]

.....or

 

He didn't allow us to sign Drogba, E'to, Ribery etc as he was too tight

He fell out with Allardyce and forced him out of the club

He appointed Megson, Coyle and Freedman

He didn't stump up the extra money so that we could push for Champions League Football when we had the chance

He dyes his hair......oops, that's somebody else

 

That should just about cover it

 

Nicely done

[tomski]

I thought the backing from everyone was spot on last night and picking holes at each other is a tad daft when as a collective the team was supported.

[DazBob]

I thought the backing from everyone was spot on last night and picking holes at each other is a tad daft when as a collective the team was supported.

 

So now you're saying you didn't set fire to their banner and swing them round and throw them over the roof of the adjacent stand in a Hulk stylee?

[Mounts Kipper]

I dont get this Gartside out protest, is it a jealousy thing because he gets paid 500 k per annum? if so hes done the job for over 20 years where he was hardly renumerated and maybe its Eddies way of showing his appreciation for the hard work he has done over a long period. I am not sure there would be a long queue of of highly qualified and professional people who have the experience neccesary to do the job and would take the flak that Gartside gets. I would have more time for this protest if they outlined the reasons they feel this campaign is valid? and a plan of action or sucessor that could and would do the job better or cheaper.

[Carlos]

thats their decision, they may frequent other message boards or social media sites where theyre explaining their reasons....

 

and again, i have no idea what the masterplan is, why not ask them directly? im sure you could be pointed in the the right direction?

 

As I said before, I don't give a fuck what someone who still lives with their parents thinks. Rather than waste my (and their) time, what are their credentials? It you are putting your head above the trench, you are there to be shot at.

 

How long have they supported Bolton, and have they ever supported another club?

What do they do in life, study internation business or sit at home all day smoking weed?

What particularly are their specific issues with Gartside, and will getting rid of him change that?

 

Simple questions to give us some context.

[tomski]

So now you're saying you didn't set fire to their banner and swing them round and throw them over the roof of the adjacent stand in a Hulk stylee?

Ha I was more upset about no beer at the ground.

[barrycowdrill]

Cheers, on both counts.

I wasn't trying to trip you up.

i didnt fear you were

[barrycowdrill]

I agree, he's probably no better or worse than the Chairman of most other football clubs. You speak to fans of most clubs and they all reckon their Chairman is shit and "on the take" we're no different to that really

in the situation we are currently in, it is only natural for a portion of fans to want a fall guy.

 

in this instance it appears it is Gartside. in the past it has been coyle, megson, mcfarland, warburtons, neil. no doubt others.

 

swings & roundabouts

[Bigtoe]

The polar opposite of Wigan, where the owner/chairman can hardly be separated from the media, and even renamed the stadium from the company which he previously owned to his own initials.

 

Dick Wad.

 

Anyway, on the positive side, at least its not a bed sheet, and it seems no expense has been spared this time by wasting perfectly good Egyptian cotton, and the daubing it with the kind of marker scribblings of a K2 patient.

 

Fair play to those also wandering round the streets to the ground carrying said banner, I'd have skipped it after about 5 mins in the journey to the match.

 

No issue with any kind of protest, as long as its done for the right reason at the right time. 

 

Like one or two others have said, I'm not sure what the alternative is or what they want?  Just to go?   

 

I think I'd rather have a crackpot chairman who is also a fan than a crackpot chairman from umbongo bongo land.   Also our owner of the club, again a fan, also seemingly backs him.

 

If we were flying high, would this protest be happening?

[barrycowdrill]

As I said before, I don't give a fuck what someone who still lives with their parents thinks. Rather than waste my (and their) time, what are their credentials? It you are putting your head above the trench, you are there to be shot at.

 

How long have they supported Bolton, and have they ever supported another club?

What do they do in life, study internation business or sit at home all day smoking weed?

What particularly are their specific issues with Gartside, and will getting rid of him change that?

 

Simple questions to give us some context.

this assumption that any of them are pre pubescent yoof type idiots just because they unfurl a banner is slightly ridiculous and massively inaccurate.

 

just because their opinions and approaches may differ from yours, doesnt mean theyre on any more or any less of a social standing?!

 

i will say again, i do not know them personally very well. if you require their life stories why not obtain it directly. this way you can scrutinise their credentials prior to making an informed decison about whether their actions where justified...

[onlyoneawalker]

A wigan fan from work sent me a picture of two lads holding up the banner outside Bloomfield Rd god knows where he got it from twitter maybe it was the one with the dollar sign for an S - the lads holding it looked like decent match lads to me and not kids but maybe I'm getting old - I completely disagree with their view point Gartside has done a cracking job for this club and he gets paid the going rate folk who criticise executives of companies generally don't get that and he's not bent he might be street wise but it's always been to benefit the club if we had to pay some random agent in brown envelopes to get Jay Jay then so be it - no one had an issue then did they - we're in trouble financially because that fraud coyle got us relegated.

 

What I wont criticise them for though is showing some passion for the welfare of the club - I'd rather people turn out and IMO have a misguided banner rather than the fucking "fans" who disappear every single time the going gets a bit tough absolute disgrace - instant gratification or nothing - bollox to them

[Guest]

this assumption that any of them are pre pubescent yoof type idiots just because they unfurl a banner is slightly ridiculous and massively inaccurate.

 

just because their opinions and approaches may differ from yours, doesnt mean theyre on any more or any less of a social standing?!

 

i will say again, i do not know them personally very well. if you require their life stories why not obtain it directly. this way you can scrutinise their credentials prior to making an informed decison about whether their actions where justified...

 

 

 

nobody with maturity would do what they did

[BOWTUN BAKED]

In fairness to all, there were 3 different home made ones that I saw, plus the one Anewman is talking about, so people may be referring to different banners. JSL