MalcolmW Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Don't think MPs need to be born and bred in the area they represent. Just do a decent job representing it. And actually spend time there. During the 12 years that Winston Churchill was an MP for Dundee he visited the city 3 times. Quote
birch-chorley Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) I see Osbourne's is selling RBS off at over a £7m loss, ironically that's double the ammount that was lost by labour selling off our gold reserve in 1999 rather than holding onto it until 2009 at the height of the gold market I don't know how he has the gaul to keep banging on about the gold sell off whilst losing double in this deal on top off the billions lost in the Royal Mail sell off - surely this isn't prudent, conservative policy? It also winds me up where he says.... "Yes we may get less than labour paid for it" - I thought bailing the banks out had cross party support and wasn't just a labour policy? If it was just labour that wanted this and he wanted the government to let our banking system go bust then he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the treasury let alone be running it? Secondly he says "however when you take the banks in total we will be billions of pounds in profit" (believed to be £14b) - does this mean then that labour have in effect made us billions of pounds profit by bailing out the banks with government debt and deserve credit for what they did in 2008? Osbourne puts me off voting torie, surely they have someone better for such a promenant position? Edited June 11, 2015 by birch-chorley Quote
Casino Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 what would you have him do wait until its worth less? Quote
birch-chorley Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 No, wait until it's worth a little more which it is expected to be in a year or two, it's currentky undervalued by about £1 a share according to SKY news It's just like the Royal Mail sell off mess all over again and he's meant to be about being prudent The ammount they bang on about the fucking gold sell off He contradicts himself all the time, one minute blaming labour for costing the tax payer bailing out the banks the next admitting that the tax payer has made a profit bailing out the banks He's fucking shite and needs to move on Quote
Whites man Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Osborne is philosophically opposed to nationalised businesses and believe the RBS will go better in private hands, that's why he's selling it. Also if fees and sales of assets are included the deal will produce a £5 billion profit, the RBS have already paid £5b in fees since privatisation. Quote
Guest Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Osborne has done a great job in helping rescue this country. That's why Labour folk dislike him Quote
birch-chorley Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I thought sky news said that its a £7b Los all things considered I understand the opposition to nationalised businesses but when you own them at least get the best deal you can for them rather than giving them away like the Royal Mail deal Besides if your against government owning business then I don't see how you can support governments owning and speculating in holding gold reserves? Surely that same philosophy would support Gordon Browns sell off of the gold reserve in 2000 then? Quote
Casino Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I thought sky news said that its a £7b Los all things considered i was half asleep in the car, but im sure R5 said rothschilds have it down as a profit, all things considered they also said the bank was a £2.3 trillion business when it was baled out - thats quite big Quote
birch-chorley Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 So we've made a profit on the asset that labour bought Cameron's quote on sky news site "yes we may be getting a lower price than labour paid" I thought the profit only came in when looking at all bailed out banks as a whole Quote
Whites man Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 There will be 3 different sets of figures Birch; the Tory's, Labour's and the real ones. Quote
Spider Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Just wait until the child tax credit changes hit the headlines Making people go and work for a living is not going to go down well outside the marches Quote
birch-chorley Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 It will only be cut if one of you earns over X meaning the Middle will get clobbered even more Quote
bgoefc Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Just wait until the child tax credit changes hit the headlines Making people go and work for a living is not going to go down well outside the marches About time we stopped subsidising professional baby factorys. Quote
magic legs Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 i was half asleep in the car, but im sure R5 said rothschilds have it down as a profit, all things considered they also said the bank was a £2.3 trillion business when it was baled out - thats quite big In terms of the size of its assets RBS was the biggest company in the world in 2008 Quote
Whites man Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 In terms of the size of its assets RBS was the biggest company in the world in 2008 And in terms of the size of it liabilities? It was massively over geared, criminally mismanaged from the top. Quote
Casino Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 It will only be cut if one of you earns over X meaning the Middle will get clobbered even more dont set me off always said that it should have been done on combined income of both parents Quote
magic legs Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 And in terms of the size of it liabilities? It was massively over geared, criminally mismanaged from the top. Assets were only slightly bigger than the liabilities. No argument from me on the criminality. Surely people have been locked up in the US for similar? Quote
Smiffs Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I thought sky news said that its a £7b Los all things considered I understand the opposition to nationalised businesses but when you own them at least get the best deal you can for them rather than giving them away like the Royal Mail deal Besides if your against government owning business then I don't see how you can support governments owning and speculating in holding gold reserves? Surely that same philosophy would support Gordon Browns sell off of the gold reserve in 2000 then? Who's to say we didn't overpay for it in the first place? In fairness it had to be bailed out and Brown made the right move. But at that stage when the world had stopped spinning, would Labour have known how much it was worth because by my reckoning it wasn't worth a bottle of milk. Like many other things he was spunking money into a black hole so whilst this hole needed a bagful of the loveglue to keep it happy, chances are he didn't actually realise he was unloading it into a cheap tart with a secret drug habit. Quote
superjohnmcginlay Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Awww bless http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-struggling-after-massive-election-costs-10334288.html Quote
no balls Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Poor Julie's out of work http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/13359447.___It_feels_like_a_bereavement_____I_lost_my_dream_job_and_I_don___t_have_a_Plan_B____says_former_MP_Julie/?ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Quote
gonzo Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Tories to put an end to inheritance tax on homes? Good work if its as good as the headline suggests.... Quote
Guest Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Poor Julie's out of work http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/13359447.___It_feels_like_a_bereavement_____I_lost_my_dream_job_and_I_don___t_have_a_Plan_B____says_former_MP_Julie/?ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook I'd missed that, thanks Wonder why she can't get a job? Edited July 4, 2015 by boltondiver Quote
mickbrown Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 I thought sky news said that its a £7b Los all things considered I understand the opposition to nationalised businesses but when you own them at least get the best deal you can for them rather than giving them away like the Royal Mail deal Besides if your against government owning business then I don't see how you can support governments owning and speculating in holding gold reserves? Surely that same philosophy would support Gordon Browns sell off of the gold reserve in 2000 then? He sells it cheap and his mates in the city will rake it in. Just like they did with Royal Mail. It's so fucking blatent and they still get it away with it. Quote
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