5 hours ago, FrancisFogarty said:

Can’t get the link to open but does it mention marching up Halliwell Road?

Yes, to Tuncay’s kebab shop

8 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Whilst rambling o’er Winter Hill, go a little further and visit another little piece of history.

https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/137357

That was just off my mountain bike route. Used to see it but to my shame I never stopped and got up close to it

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Timely and profound words.

Now all they teach kids is about what utter bastards the British have been.

I'd like to see those teaching this left wing dogma blindfolded and stood against a wall.

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Timely and profound words.

Now all they teach kids is about what utter bastards the British have been.

I'd like to see those teaching this left wing dogma blindfolded and stood against a wall.

So they should be taught history but only from the viewpoint that everything the British did was great?

10 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

Fair enough. I probably grew up in a generation that taught you about it with a proper passion

If you’re ever back go up Coal Pit Road as @Boby Brno says 

Please don’t tell me you don’t know about Scotsman’s Stump either 

Haha

 I remember my dad learning that one from a mate at work & passing it on

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

So they should be taught history but only from the viewpoint that everything the British did was great?

I think a bit of a balance would be fair. While I’m antifa in some peoples eyes, I agree that teaching kids that they should be guilty from the word go is a bit bent

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

So they should be taught history but only from the viewpoint that everything the British did was great?

He’s surely on a wind up 😁

 But you never know. 

For a start , history isn’t taught ‘all the time’. But it’s very peculiar behaviour wanting people taught one sided lies when looking at historical events. You’re not gonna get many rational thinking adults from that approach.

Then again, teenagers learn from Tik Tok these days, so we’re fcked. 

5 minutes ago, tomski said:

I think a bit of a balance would be fair. While I’m antifa in some peoples eyes, I agree that teaching kids that they should be guilty from the word go is a bit bent

Nobody teaches kids to be guilty 😂 where did you read that?

How has a nostalgic chat about Bolton’s history gone this way …. I’m blaming Bolty 😁

Just now, London Wanderer said:

Nobody teaches kids to be guilty 😂 where did you read that?

How has a nostalgic chat about Bolton’s history gone this way …. I’m blaming Bolty 😁

Sorry poorly messaged on my part. No idea on teachings but current culture defo has an element of self loathing. Hard for young minds in my opinion.

34 minutes ago, tomski said:

Sorry poorly messaged on my part. No idea on teachings but current culture defo has an element of self loathing. Hard for young minds in my opinion.

What utter bollocks.

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What utter bollocks.

Hi Cheese😂

39 minutes ago, tomski said:

Sorry poorly messaged on my part. No idea on teachings but current culture defo has an element of self loathing. Hard for young minds in my opinion.

No worries

 I guess it would depend on what you are referring to. Young people just don’t go around hating themselves because of ‘British history’. 
 

It’s just another nonsense culture wars distraction deflecting from the real issues. (Not from you by the way)

 Accessing social media before adulthood; mental health services in crisis; lack of youth centres & opportunities; an exam obsessed education system, housing … add to that list if you want.

 You’re not going to solve any of those or improve the lives of young people by getting them to celebrate our glorious past in school. 

53 minutes ago, tomski said:

I think a bit of a balance would be fair. While I’m antifa in some peoples eyes, I agree that teaching kids that they should be guilty from the word go is a bit bent

I am not sure this the case. My lad is at school at the moment and is excelling in History. He isn't taught to feel guilty of anything and I wouldn't expect so.

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

No worries

 I guess it would depend on what you are referring to. Young people just don’t go around hating themselves because of ‘British history’. 
 

It’s just another nonsense culture wars distraction deflecting from the real issues. (Not from you by the way)

 Accessing social media before adulthood; mental health services in crisis; lack of youth centres & opportunities; an exam obsessed education system, housing … add to that list if you want.

 You’re not going to solve any of those or improve the lives of young people by getting them to celebrate our glorious past in school. 

Agreed, you are right and is defo a distraction tool but there is defo an element of crap spouted. 

For example being told (not me solely) as a white chap I go on the defensive about historic Britain as I feel marginalised. No I just don’t feel the need to apologise for something that happened before I was born etc.
 

 

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10 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

 

10 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Now all they teach kids is about what utter bastards the British have been.

That's just not true 

5 hours ago, Sweep said:

 

That's just not true 

Yes it is.

48 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Yes it is.

How the fuck would you know Skippy?

22 hours ago, Sweep said:

 

That's just not true 

Yes it is. That's all they teach.

20 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Yes it is.

You've been watching too much GB News mate

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You've been watching too much GB News mate

No I haven't. 

The ramblings of an old man are not to be taken seriously

my brother is down from Edinburgh this week

took my mum into tow this afternoon

he tells me:

Eating at Bolton Food Hall.  Katsu Katsu do the best Japanese I’ve had outside of Japan.  Seriously recommended.

didn't even know town had a food hall, had a search, looks decent

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

my brother is down from Edinburgh this week

took my mum into tow this afternoon

he tells me:

Eating at Bolton Food Hall.  Katsu Katsu do the best Japanese I’ve had outside of Japan.  Seriously recommended.

didn't even know town had a food hall, had a search, looks decent

Walked through it and it looks great. I’m not one to eat during the day so can’t testify to the food but others on here have. 
I’ve said before, that side of town is really looking up and will hopefully, be the start of the regeneration. 

2 hours ago, Zico said:

my brother is down from Edinburgh this week

took my mum into tow this afternoon

he tells me:

Eating at Bolton Food Hall.  Katsu Katsu do the best Japanese I’ve had outside of Japan.  Seriously recommended.

didn't even know town had a food hall, had a search, looks decent

Been to the food food hall a few times now, it's great. Yes it's not as fancy as some of the food halls in Manchester, but it's not trying to be. Folk always moan there's nowt in town but then never actually support things like this when they try. 

Your brother is correct, the Katsu place is ace. There's an Indian place which was pretty good when I tried that, the Italian in there is great as well. Not tried it yet but there is a Chinese stall called something like "my chicken" or summert. Not tried that yet, it's next on the list cos there is always shit loads of Chinese folk in there eating from there, always a good sign. 

 

5 minutes ago, boogs said:

Been to the food food hall a few times now, it's great. Yes it's not as fancy as some of the food halls in Manchester, but it's not trying to be. Folk always moan there's nowt in town but then never actually support things like this when they try. 

Your brother is correct, the Katsu place is ace. There's an Indian place which was pretty good when I tried that, the Italian in there is great as well. Not tried it yet but there is a Chinese stall called something like "my chicken" or summert. Not tried that yet, it's next on the list cos there is always shit loads of Chinese folk in there eating from there, always a good sign. 

Is it all just foreigners serving foreign muck? Booooo