Dr Faustus Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 5 hours ago, FrancisFogarty said: Can’t get the link to open but does it mention marching up Halliwell Road? Yes, to Tuncay’s kebab shop Quote
MancWanderer Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 8 hours ago, BobyBrno said: Whilst rambling o’er Winter Hill, go a little further and visit another little piece of history. https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/memorial/137357 That was just off my mountain bike route. Used to see it but to my shame I never stopped and got up close to it Quote
MancWanderer Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 7 hours ago, bolty58 said: Timely and profound words. Now all they teach kids is about what utter bastards the British have been. I'd like to see those teaching this left wing dogma blindfolded and stood against a wall. Quote
Winchester White Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 7 hours ago, bolty58 said: Timely and profound words. Now all they teach kids is about what utter bastards the British have been. I'd like to see those teaching this left wing dogma blindfolded and stood against a wall. So they should be taught history but only from the viewpoint that everything the British did was great? Quote
London Wanderer Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 10 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Fair enough. I probably grew up in a generation that taught you about it with a proper passion If you’re ever back go up Coal Pit Road as @Boby Brno says Please don’t tell me you don’t know about Scotsman’s Stump either Haha I remember my dad learning that one from a mate at work & passing it on Quote
tomski Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: So they should be taught history but only from the viewpoint that everything the British did was great? I think a bit of a balance would be fair. While I’m antifa in some peoples eyes, I agree that teaching kids that they should be guilty from the word go is a bit bent Quote
London Wanderer Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: So they should be taught history but only from the viewpoint that everything the British did was great? He’s surely on a wind up 😁 But you never know. For a start , history isn’t taught ‘all the time’. But it’s very peculiar behaviour wanting people taught one sided lies when looking at historical events. You’re not gonna get many rational thinking adults from that approach. Then again, teenagers learn from Tik Tok these days, so we’re fcked. Quote
London Wanderer Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, tomski said: I think a bit of a balance would be fair. While I’m antifa in some peoples eyes, I agree that teaching kids that they should be guilty from the word go is a bit bent Nobody teaches kids to be guilty 😂 where did you read that? How has a nostalgic chat about Bolton’s history gone this way …. I’m blaming Bolty 😁 Quote
tomski Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 Just now, London Wanderer said: Nobody teaches kids to be guilty 😂 where did you read that? How has a nostalgic chat about Bolton’s history gone this way …. I’m blaming Bolty 😁 Sorry poorly messaged on my part. No idea on teachings but current culture defo has an element of self loathing. Hard for young minds in my opinion. Quote
Cheese Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 34 minutes ago, tomski said: Sorry poorly messaged on my part. No idea on teachings but current culture defo has an element of self loathing. Hard for young minds in my opinion. What utter bollocks. Quote
tomski Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: What utter bollocks. Hi Cheese😂 Quote
London Wanderer Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 39 minutes ago, tomski said: Sorry poorly messaged on my part. No idea on teachings but current culture defo has an element of self loathing. Hard for young minds in my opinion. No worries I guess it would depend on what you are referring to. Young people just don’t go around hating themselves because of ‘British history’. It’s just another nonsense culture wars distraction deflecting from the real issues. (Not from you by the way) Accessing social media before adulthood; mental health services in crisis; lack of youth centres & opportunities; an exam obsessed education system, housing … add to that list if you want. You’re not going to solve any of those or improve the lives of young people by getting them to celebrate our glorious past in school. Quote
Winchester White Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 53 minutes ago, tomski said: I think a bit of a balance would be fair. While I’m antifa in some peoples eyes, I agree that teaching kids that they should be guilty from the word go is a bit bent I am not sure this the case. My lad is at school at the moment and is excelling in History. He isn't taught to feel guilty of anything and I wouldn't expect so. Quote
tomski Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: No worries I guess it would depend on what you are referring to. Young people just don’t go around hating themselves because of ‘British history’. It’s just another nonsense culture wars distraction deflecting from the real issues. (Not from you by the way) Accessing social media before adulthood; mental health services in crisis; lack of youth centres & opportunities; an exam obsessed education system, housing … add to that list if you want. You’re not going to solve any of those or improve the lives of young people by getting them to celebrate our glorious past in school. Agreed, you are right and is defo a distraction tool but there is defo an element of crap spouted. For example being told (not me solely) as a white chap I go on the defensive about historic Britain as I feel marginalised. No I just don’t feel the need to apologise for something that happened before I was born etc. Edited September 14, 2024 by tomski Quote
Sweep Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 10 hours ago, bolty58 said: 10 hours ago, bolty58 said: Now all they teach kids is about what utter bastards the British have been. That's just not true Quote
bolty58 Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 5 hours ago, Sweep said: That's just not true Yes it is. Quote
Winchester White Posted September 14, 2024 Posted September 14, 2024 48 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Yes it is. How the fuck would you know Skippy? Quote
DazBob Posted September 15, 2024 Posted September 15, 2024 22 hours ago, Sweep said: That's just not true Yes it is. That's all they teach. Quote
Sweep Posted September 15, 2024 Posted September 15, 2024 20 hours ago, bolty58 said: Yes it is. You've been watching too much GB News mate Quote
bolty58 Posted September 15, 2024 Posted September 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: You've been watching too much GB News mate No I haven't. Quote
mickbrown Posted September 15, 2024 Posted September 15, 2024 The ramblings of an old man are not to be taken seriously Quote
Zico Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 my brother is down from Edinburgh this week took my mum into tow this afternoon he tells me: Eating at Bolton Food Hall. Katsu Katsu do the best Japanese I’ve had outside of Japan. Seriously recommended. didn't even know town had a food hall, had a search, looks decent Quote
BobyBrno Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 12 minutes ago, Zico said: my brother is down from Edinburgh this week took my mum into tow this afternoon he tells me: Eating at Bolton Food Hall. Katsu Katsu do the best Japanese I’ve had outside of Japan. Seriously recommended. didn't even know town had a food hall, had a search, looks decent Walked through it and it looks great. I’m not one to eat during the day so can’t testify to the food but others on here have. I’ve said before, that side of town is really looking up and will hopefully, be the start of the regeneration. Quote
boogs Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 2 hours ago, Zico said: my brother is down from Edinburgh this week took my mum into tow this afternoon he tells me: Eating at Bolton Food Hall. Katsu Katsu do the best Japanese I’ve had outside of Japan. Seriously recommended. didn't even know town had a food hall, had a search, looks decent Been to the food food hall a few times now, it's great. Yes it's not as fancy as some of the food halls in Manchester, but it's not trying to be. Folk always moan there's nowt in town but then never actually support things like this when they try. Your brother is correct, the Katsu place is ace. There's an Indian place which was pretty good when I tried that, the Italian in there is great as well. Not tried it yet but there is a Chinese stall called something like "my chicken" or summert. Not tried that yet, it's next on the list cos there is always shit loads of Chinese folk in there eating from there, always a good sign. Quote
Cheese Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, boogs said: Been to the food food hall a few times now, it's great. Yes it's not as fancy as some of the food halls in Manchester, but it's not trying to be. Folk always moan there's nowt in town but then never actually support things like this when they try. Your brother is correct, the Katsu place is ace. There's an Indian place which was pretty good when I tried that, the Italian in there is great as well. Not tried it yet but there is a Chinese stall called something like "my chicken" or summert. Not tried that yet, it's next on the list cos there is always shit loads of Chinese folk in there eating from there, always a good sign. Is it all just foreigners serving foreign muck? Booooo Quote
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