Sweep Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Do you want to be "in" or "out" and what do you think will actually be the result... Edited May 28, 2016 by Sweep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 28, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 28, 2016 Do you want a job Most impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Do you want a job I've not got the required tolerance and patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I've not got the required tolerance and patience You've no chance sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Do you want a job Most impressive Don't tar everyone with your migrants cheap Labour job. Use your skills & jump ship now like I'm doing, stop being lazy Edited May 28, 2016 by BOWTUN BAKED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Undecided - but I think In is the most likely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Undecided - but I think In is the most likely outcome. Because....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 The results look fairly interesting so far 50% will vote out....but more than 50% think we'll stay in. Presumably those who want out don't have faith in the rest of the electorate to vote with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The results look fairly interesting so far 50% will vote out....but more than 50% think we'll stay in. Presumably those who want out don't have faith in the rest of the electorate to vote with them That's where I'm at. If we stay in I'll never vote again, I can't be arsed with it no more if the leaders can control the media for their political careers and nobody else is arsed about the country. I'm in my 50's now, why should I care if the youth don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 That's where I'm at. If we stay in I'll never vote again, I can't be arsed with it no more if the leaders can control the media for their political careers and nobody else is arsed about the country. I'm in my 50's now, why should I care if the youth don't?Surely they do care by voting. They just don't agree with your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) That's where I'm at. If we stay in I'll never vote again, I can't be arsed with it no more if the leaders can control the media for their political careers and nobody else is arsed about the country. I'm in my 50's now, why should I care if the youth don't? The yoof are far more leaning towards remain. I was just thinking earlier, as I am planning to not be living in this country in a few years, I'm not sure if that makes me a bit of a cunt for using my vote. But I suppose the same could be said of old biddies voting. Edited May 29, 2016 by no balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) That's where I'm at. If we stay in I'll never vote againSo.....you chose to live in a democracy, but if the decision isn't what you want you're going to chuck your toys out of the pram and refuse to vote ever again? That sounds a bit odd And if it is to remain, you're insinuating that those who vote to stay are only doing so because they've been manipulated by the media? Edited May 29, 2016 by Sweep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'm voting out obviously but I think it'll be an in vote unless the polls got it wrong which is possible I'm hoping that the undecided grab the bull by the horns and the majority of them vote out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I've been informed that the expats living in Europe & Europeans that have lived here for over 5 years are also getting a vote. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 I've been informed that the expats living in Europe & Europeans that have lived here for over 5 years are also getting a vote. Is this true? UK nationals living abroad who have been on the electoral role here in the last 15 years can vote.....fuck knows why, as it's nothing to do with them Citizens from EU countries, resident in the UK will not get a vote....apart from Irish, Malta and Cyprus....again, fuck knows why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 British, Irish and Commonwealth citizens over 18 who are resident in the UK, along with UK nationals living abroad who have been on the electoral register in the UK in the past 15 years. Members of the House of Lords and Commonwealth citizens in Gibraltar will also be eligible, unlike in a general election. Citizens from EU countries - apart from Ireland, Malta and Cyprus - will not get a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Because....... Why am I undecided or why do I think in is the most likely outcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Why am I undecided or why do I think in is the most likely outcome? Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Undecided for the reasons I've already described on here. I worry in the event of an out vote about what a conservative government would do given carte blanche with workers rights and conditions, but at the same time am committed to the idea that Britain should be sovereign. In - because that's what the bookies say and also because as has been pointed out - I reckon the outers are more vociferous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankietheman Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I voted to join and remain in the 70's into what was then basically a trade agreement with far fewer members. On reflection seeing the monolith the EU has become like several others around my age I would have elected to stay in EFTA. For the opportunities afforded in exiting Europe I am firmly in the Out camp although I suspect that the "undecided" will bottle it at the end of the day giving the in's the majority. However even if an In vote wins I suspect the issue will not go away and there will be a re-run at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted May 29, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 29, 2016 Fuck off, we aren't Scotch. One vote for this generation, leave it for 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Undecided - but I think In is the most likely outcome. This. Much as in Scotland, the campaign for change is naturally more vociferous, but you can't underesitmate the power of a silent majority as they found out, though it wasn't by much in the scheme of things and I would expect similar in this one. If it's true that the yoof favour 'In' then it's an interesting contrast with the Scots vote. In terms of being undecided, it's just like every other political situation where you have to work out the difference between the truth and the spin, and the trouble is there's very little that can be properly predicted, leaving us with only spin and folk ending up doing 'ip dip dog shit' at the voting booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Politically it's not like any other election I know of though as you've got lefties wanting to stay in and Dave and his chums too. Then you've got Nigel Farage and Kate Hoey as bed fellows at some point the out camp. Edited May 29, 2016 by no balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Politically it's not like any other election I know of though as you've got lefties wanting to stay in and Dave and his chums too. Then you've got Nigel Farage and Kate Hoey as bed fellows at some point the out camp.I deliberately skewed away from comparing it to party politics given the Boris/Dave split and the like. Still not too dissimilar to the usual playground games in the House of Commons though with little sign of any sense on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovit Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 If you are a socialist it is basically a lose lose situation. Vote in and you are supporting a Capitalist institution. Vote out and the chances are Cameron will be ousted to be replaced by a more extreme Right wing leader. I reckon we would have been better off not becoming part of the EU in the first place but we are too far down the line now to withdraw without financial strife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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