gonzo Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: If that's true, I can almost guarantee that at least 5 of them fall into the "thick racist" category I reckon I can name all 10 tbf Quote
Zulu Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Cheese said: We're all putting into the system to pay for pensioners mate. Even the ones that never worked a day in their lives, but still claim when they hit 65. What are Reform's policies on the future of the state pension? The state pension is not a benefit. You fucking moron. Quote
Sweep Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dimron said: I have been involved in building maintenance for an international pharmaceutical for a good few years. I was gob-smacked when they started shutting down their main research campus in Oxford this year to relocate to Germany... I thought this was something we were supposedly developing for the future, less than 3 years ago I was there when the conservative Minister of State opened the new buildings I some about this years ago, with my industry, Brexit killed it, almost all R&D moved into Europe. It's what we wanted, and it what we got. At the time, even @Mounts Kippersuggested it wouldn't happen,and as a country we'd be so much better off..... Even be realises we didn't get what we were promised. I think Quote
Sweep Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: The Conservatives did all this too. Are there people that actually think Reform can stop all that you mention? Yep, one of them posts on here. He didn't live here though.... Odd that isn't it Quote
Sweep Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: I reckon I can name all 10 tbf I'm sure you could, if they really existed, which they don't. Quote
Winchester White Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Zulu said: The state pension is not a benefit. You fucking moron. It really is. How do you not know this? Quote
Cheese Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Zulu said: The state pension is not a benefit. You fucking moron. I didn't say it was. But it is. You fucking moron. Quote
masi 51 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Moves into this debate......How do i get a full pension at 67 if i have not PAID stamps.....PAID being the operative word Quote
Zulu Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: It really is. How do you not know this? You, and I, both contribute to the fund. It’s a contract that I entered when I started work, aged 17 in 1971. It’s not difficult mate. Quote
Dimron Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Cheese said: I wonder why? 🤔 I understand there are many ripples in the pharma industry caused by the current government doubling the pay back to the NHS for new medicines... I know of site closures in Cambridge, London and Oxford. 800 highly educated employees laid off in the one I am familiar with... this is hardly growth politics Quote
Zulu Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: I didn't say it was. But it is. You fucking moron. And… you’re still a cunt. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Zulu said: The state pension is not a benefit. You fucking moron. Yes it is Quote
mickbrown Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 25 minutes ago, royal white said: It’s taken 2 years to give free breakfasts to less than 4% of schools. Probably the easiest policy to get done. Go Labour! And still the media crucify them for having the temerity to even attempt that Quote
Zulu Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Yes it is Funded by a lifetime of NI contributions (well, in my case at least) Quote
Dimron Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Dimron said: I understand there are many ripples in the pharma industry caused by the current government doubling the pay back to the NHS for new medicines... I know of site closures in Cambridge, London and Oxford. 800 highly educated employees laid off in the one I am familiar with... this is hardly growth politics https://www.abpi.org.uk/media/news/2025/june/uk-doubles-statutory-payment-rate-on-pharmaceutical-sales-from-july/ Quote
Winchester White Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Zulu said: You, and I, both contribute to the fund. It’s a contract that I entered when I started work, aged 17 in 1971. It’s not difficult mate. There is no contract. Your pension is a burden on the current working population. That is the fact of the situation. I am not saying you don't deserve a pension of course but that is the reality. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 6 hours ago, Nowack said: They can call all the applications they want in and debate them. They must still have a lawful planning reason to approve or refuse them. If they don`t then the will get overturned on appeal for which the Local Authority will incur costs. What they can do is dictate the planning policy and local plan but again, this takes a lot of time and money as well as political will. In theory that's how it works, in reality it's different They can approve something, there's no third party appeal rights and if you do want to challenge it then it's judicial review and you're in the High Court. Very expensive and very rare it ever happens I worked for a council where the committee kept refusing applications for wind turbines despite Officers saying approve. Council would lose on appeal and get costs against them which would be around £100k per appeal They were told to stop it but they didn't. All they care about is showing the locals that they are defending them even though they knew they were wrong Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Zulu said: Funded by a lifetime of NI contributions (well, in my case at least) Yes, it's a contributory benefit Which is still a benefit Quote
Zulu Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Just now, Winchester White said: There is no contract. Your pension is a burden on the current working population. That is the fact of the situation. I am not saying you don't deserve a pension of course but that is the reality. Whatever. Mine rolls in every fourth Friday. I raise a glass of Merlot and say ‘ Cheers lads!’ 😀🍷 Quote
Winchester White Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, Zulu said: Funded by a lifetime of NI contributions (well, in my case at least) That was the idea, unfortunately it left reality half a century ago. The reality is your generation didn't pay in anywhere near enough to cope with what it costs to keep you alive. That is the simple fact. So all the next generations are paying more and more. Edited 15 hours ago by Winchester White Spelling Quote
masi 51 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Anyone under 50 you are not getting a state pension.....And there will be no such thing as pension credit or Housing benefit. This country is bankrupt. No fuckers working All you Southern based lefties will be on the streets....Shitting on your own town from 200 miles away will come back to haunt you. Quote
Winchester White Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, masi 51 said: Anyone under 50 you are not getting a state pension.....And there will be no such thing as pension credit or Housing benefit. This country is bankrupt. No fuckers working All you Southern based lefties will be on the streets....Shitting on your own town from 200 miles away will come back to haunt you. Stop being an absolute whopper. Quote
Zulu Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: That was the idea, unfortunately it left reality half a decade ago. The reality is your generation didn't pay in anywhere near enough to cope with what it costs to keep you alive. That is the simple fact. So all the next generations are paying more and more. Half a decade ago? That’s five years. I paid in for 51 years. How far are you from drawing your State Pension? Will you decline to collect it? For the common good? Quote
Cheese Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Zulu said: And… you’re still a cunt. I may be a cunt, but you are very misguided if you think your "NI contributions" were going into a pot that would pay for your state pension. Quote
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