kent_white Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Did the financial crash in 2008 lead directly to increased knife crime in your opinion? Has this ever been something you have thought? Genuine question Kent I don't know. It's probably quite a complicated question to answer. I think it's conceivable that if it led to an increase in poverty, and meant fewer police on the streets and less early intervention, then it might well have led to an increase in knife crime. Over the course of a couple of years as the cuts bit. Quote
Escobarp Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, kent_white said: I don't know. It's probably quite a complicated question to answer. I think it's conceivable that if it led to an increase in poverty, and meant fewer police on the streets and less early intervention, then it might well have led to an increase in knife crime. Over the course of a couple of years as the cuts bit. I would agree it probably contributed via less in the public purse. But nobody will have ever linked the two. Yet it has been the biggest single detractor from public finances in recent memory correct? yet something that hasn’t even happened yet Will lead to this? you can see my point here I am guessing? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, kent_white said: He might well be right if there's a 6% drop in GDP and less money on the coffers to pay for police. Either that or we all start paying more tax to make up the shortfall? The previous chancellor talked about financial headroom. In other words money accrued and set aside to cope with any initial wobbles as we first came out. Given the procrastination of parliament, there is now evidence of small wobbles starting already. The sooner we leave, and companies loosen the purse strings those wobbles will lessen. We enter the implementation period, which will help stabilise things following this god awful situation in the house. An election will also follow, which will finally see off Corbyn, which in turn will please industry. Politics will hopefully start to return to some sense of normality, provided, of course, that a decent leader of the opposition is appointed. Quote
Guest Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Politics will hopefully start to return to some sense of normality, provided, of course, that a decent leader of the opposition is appointed. Can't see it, I think the Momentum suicide death cult will choose another Corbyn, albeit a female version this time. For diversity. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Can't see it, I think the Momentum suicide death cult will choose another Corbyn, albeit a female version this time. For diversity. Rebecca Long Bailey. 🤣😂🤣 Quote
Guest Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Rebecca Long Bailey. 🤣😂🤣 Munich slag Quote
mickbrown Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Politics will hopefully start to return to some sense of normality, provided, of course, that a decent leader of the opposition is appointed. Here’s hoping. Be nice if the Tories could get themselves a proper leader too. Quote
Escobarp Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, mickbrown said: Here’s hoping. Be nice if the Tories could get themselves a proper leader too. Whole system needs a reset. From right to left and even in the middle. Especially in the middle. Blowing up holyrood with the entire snp In would be handy as well Quote
Guest Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The previous chancellor talked about financial headroom. In other words money accrued and set aside to cope with any initial wobbles as we first came out. Given the procrastination of parliament, there is now evidence of small wobbles starting already. The sooner we leave, and companies loosen the purse strings those wobbles will lessen. We enter the implementation period, which will help stabilise things following this god awful situation in the house. An election will also follow, which will finally see off Corbyn, which in turn will please industry. Politics will hopefully start to return to some sense of normality, provided, of course, that a decent leader of the opposition is appointed. Politics will get back to normal but needs both major parties to move back to the centre. It will happen eventually but we need both leaders out and for credible movements in both parties to grow and strengthen their positions. I am convinced that will happen within the next five years. Quote
Moon boy Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Here’s hoping. Be nice if the Tories could get themselves a proper leader too. Don’t worry about the Tories, you concentrate on your own party Quote
Moon boy Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Politics will get back to normal but needs both major parties to move back to the centre. It will happen eventually but we need both leaders out and for credible movements in both parties to grow and strengthen their positions. I am convinced that will happen within the next five years. In your opinion when was the last time we had a Government where both parties were center? Quote
royal white Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Here’s hoping. Be nice if the Tories could get themselves a proper leader too. Define a proper leader Quote
Salford Trotter Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Politics will get back to normal but needs both major parties to move back to the centre. It will happen eventually but we need both leaders out and for credible movements in both parties to grow and strengthen their positions. I am convinced that will happen within the next five years. Whoever wins this election will lose the next Quote
Escobarp Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Whoever wins this election will lose the next Very bold statement that indeed werent people saying the tories were dead whilst May was in charge only a matter of months ago?? Doing well for dead from where I’m stood Edited October 24, 2019 by Escobarp Quote
Ani Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, royal white said: Define a proper leader One who is not a puppet to either wing of their respective party. Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, boltondiver said: Any chance of an election on 12.12.19? You little tinker.....I know you know the relevance of those dates Quote
royal white Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ani said: One who is not a puppet to either wing of their respective party. Could you give an example? Quote
Moon boy Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ani said: One who is not a puppet to either wing of their respective party. Putin, Erdoghan? Quote
Ani Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Could you give an example? Thatcher. Quote
Ani Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Moon boy said: Putin, Erdoghan? No. I was talking about in the UK. Sorry if it confused you. Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, kent_white said: He might well be right if there's a 6% drop in GDP and less money on the coffers to pay for police. Either that or we all start paying more tax to make up the shortfall? Just a few facts for you old chum. Boris seemed to do ok as Mayor, despite of the crash https://fullfact.org/crime/boris-johnson-mayor-crime/# Quote
Salford Trotter Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Very bold statement that indeed werent people saying the tories were dead whilst May was in charge only a matter of months ago?? Doing well for dead from where I’m stood Assuming the Tories win the majority you hope then they will be handed the same poisoned chalice that May was given. The electorate will have been promised this spectacular 'promised land of milk and honey' and i fully suspect, just like May, they will undeliver on the FTA and the economic renaissance they promised. Their lies will come back to bite Johnson on his ass. Quote
royal white Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ani said: Thatcher. I think she’s dead, they could do with someone who has a pulse Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Rebecca Wrong Daily. 🤣😂🤣 Corrected for factual purposes Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said: Assuming the Tories win the majority you hope then they will be handed the same poisoned chalice that May was given. The electorate will have been promised this spectacular 'promised land of milk and honey' and i fully suspect, just like May, they will undeliver on the FTA and the economic renaissance they promised. Their lies will come back to bite Johnson on his ass. Who will you be voting for mate, if I don’t need to ask ? Wouldn't be the ones whose leader is being asked to pay back money she “forgot” to declare from the fracking debacle ? Quote
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