Politics

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, tomski said:

I wish being good at the job was nature of the beast as well.

That depends upon what you see as being good.

Will never satisfy everyone. Wont even satisfy some all of the time. Some part of the time maybe.

Hence a thick skin.

Been quite fascinated these last few years watching them 'perform' in the house of commons. Some clearly a lot brighter than others, some with a passion for a particular field.

A hell of a lot of good done behind the scenes that we don't hear about regularly, we're generally presented with the bollocks; the posturing like weapons free gladiators in the hoc during PMQ or on certain statements. 

 

[Farrelli]

Nicola Sturgeon currently outlining a strong case for Scottish Independence, I think next year's Scottish election will be very interesting.   

[Escobarp]

You mean the same case (less Covid references) that was made last time and rejected?

[miamiwhite]

14 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Nicola Sturgeon currently outlining a strong case for Scottish Independence, I think next year's Scottish election will be very interesting.   

 Being a nationalist,  she's hardly going to outline a shite case is she fella 😄 🤣 

Has she mentioned the disgraceful scenes from the Piggery last night ? Or is her case today conveniently taking the limelight away from that ?

[Farrelli]

18 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

You mean the same case (less Covid references) that was made last time and rejected?

Things have changed a bit since then though. I think the attempts to undermine the devolved powers by Boris (internal markets bill) and his 'devolution has been a disaster' comments are only adding to the SNP's case. 

[Escobarp]

32 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Things have changed a bit since then though. I think the attempts to undermine the devolved powers by Boris (internal markets bill) and his 'devolution has been a disaster' comments are only adding to the SNP's case. 

I don’t think there case needs adding to really. It’s the sole reason for their existence in their current form. It’s a 50/50 call whether they win a vote on it. Biggest stumbling block will be getting it in the first place. 
 

middle of a pandemic and she bangs on about independence though. Strange timing. 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

I don’t think there case needs adding to really. It’s the sole reason for their existence in their current form. It’s a 50/50 call whether they win a vote on it. Biggest stumbling block will be getting it in the first place. 
 

middle of a pandemic and she bangs on about independence though. Strange timing. 

Like I say mate, takes the highlight off the Celtic fans last night and her spanking off Andrew Marr yesterday re her blatant lies.

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Like I say mate, takes the highlight off the Celtic fans last night and her spanking off Andrew Marr yesterday re her blatant lies.

Tbf I dint think she’s trying to deflect from the nonsense last night. I do think she is hiding away from her perceived performance in handling Covid though. But I more so think she is reverting to type. It’s her sole purpose independence. She has no interest in achieving anything else at whatever cost. 

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Tbf I dint think she’s trying to deflect from the nonsense last night. I do think she is hiding away from her perceived performance in handling Covid though. But I more so think she is reverting to type. It’s her sole purpose independence. She has no interest in achieving anything else at whatever cost. 

Yes mate, spot on her, it is her life ambition and I've no qualms with that. Every one to her own, though like you say, it will be tough to get the referendum again. 

Have you seen the pic of her when she found out she hadn't got the victory last time ? Well worth a Google 😄 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

You mean the same case (less Covid references) that was made last time and rejected?

And ad infinitum

[Guest]

Not looking so good for those with homes in the EU?

[Spider]

49 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Not looking so good for those with homes in the EU?

One assumes JonnyForeigner won’t target our Sovereign right to own a Vila in Benny??

[Casino]

54 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Not looking so good for those with homes in the EU?

You mean the EU have some cards?

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

You mean the EU have some cards?

Those meek, penniless beaurocrats?

[Casino]

8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s same rules now, you can’t spend more than 6 months each year, unless you take residency, loads of folk do though, off radar, but it’s not legal. 

Are you saying EU nationals can't live wherever the fuck they want in the EU?

[tyldesley_white]

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Are you saying EU nationals can't live wherever the fuck they want in the EU?

got to remember they need us more than we need them , which as been said on more then one occasion 

I really do see trouble ahead of people wanting to live in the EU, but again i've been saying this for a bit, I bring up the EU Esta and for no one caring at the moment I can see that changing once we've left

[Spider]

39 minutes ago, Casino said:

Are you saying EU nationals can't live wherever the fuck they want in the EU?

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He doesn’t know mate

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Are you saying EU nationals can't live wherever the fuck they want in the EU?

Yes, EU citizens can live where they want within the EU but in Spain after 3 months you need to apply for residencia if you live there more than 183 days you should also pay tax in Spain. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[miamiwhite]

OK, simple maths here.

We have left.......so, the remaining nations have to contribute more.

Will they turn us down for deals when they export so much to us ?

Not rocket science is it.......I'm using Dennis Skinner's words by the way.

[Casino]

Is that the same for Spaniards living here

[Mounts Kipper]

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

Is that the same for Spaniards living here

Don’t know. 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Is that the same for Spaniards living here

 

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Don’t know. 

I used to work with a Spanish bloke at my old company, he was, so he told us, allowed to live here as long as he wanted to as an EU citizen (he's now in France I think), he didn't have to apply for residency, and he only started to look into it once we'd voted to leave.

[Casino]

How odd

[tyldesley_white]

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Yes, EU citizens can live where they want within the EU but in Spain after 3 months you need to apply for residencia if you live there more than 183 days you should also pay tax in Spain. 

That could open you up to tax in 2 places 

[Cheese]

4 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Yes, EU citizens can live where they want within the EU but in Spain after 3 months you need to apply for residencia if you live there more than 183 days you should also pay tax in Spain. 

Claiming residency in an EU country is simple as fuck if you're an EU citizen. Not so easy for a non-EU citizen. Of course, the level of complication varies between member countries, as each one has always had full control over its own Immigration policies.