Politics

[leigh white]

Probably get back to where we are now in 50 years time, a cracking move that red bus baffling all the punters. If you think the Covid panic buying was bad, that was a little dress rehearsal for things to come. 

[Cheese]

Things are going to get really grim in a few weeks. But let's have a national debate about Scotch Eggs. What a country.

Edited December 4, 2020 by Cheese

[Spider]

Don’t underestimate the power of being a patriot.

Mounts will just have to take his HGV test and he’ll drive the goods from Dover for free.

You're all just soft.

[bolty58]

Fucking drama queens. The Project Fear mob have never stopped. FFS Mick -give it a rest mate. '50 years time' - well, that counts you out then. 'Panic buying'? Give over. Haven't you heard that we are moving to a plant based diet? Grow your own including dock leaves to wipe yer arse with.

Interesting how the same crowd who were bellowing that fishing rights were three fifths of fuck all are now screeching about it being a deal breaker. In truth, this is what they hope.  

[Spider]

11 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Fucking drama queens. The Project Fear mob have never stopped. FFS Mick -give it a rest mate. '50 years time' - well, that counts you out then. 'Panic buying'? Give over. Haven't you heard that we are moving to a plant based diet? Grow your own including dock leaves to wipe yer arse with.

Interesting how the same crowd who were bellowing that fishing rights were three fifths of fuck all are now screeching about it being a deal breaker. In truth, this is what they hope.  

Fishing is worth next to nowt and means fuck all to me

But

Ardent Brexiteers had it as a central pillar of their “getting back control” mantra as you well know.

Now it’s looking like Boris is backing down all over the place, suddenly the fisherfolk are being cast aside by the gammons.

Its all very amusing 😊😊😊

Edited December 4, 2020 by Spider

[Spider]

On 02/12/2020 at 15:45, Mounts Kipper said:

Rumours both negotiating teams now in the tunnel ironing out the final details. 

Is this iron as useful as the oven ready meal?

[Mounts Kipper]

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Is this iron as useful as the oven ready meal?

Hopefully it’s a 9 Iron, smash michel over the head. 😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Fishing is worth next to nowt and means fuck all to me

But

Ardent Brexiteers had it as a central pillar of their “getting back control” mantra as you well know.

Now it’s looking like Boris is backing down all over the place, suddenly the fisherfolk are being cast aside by the gammons.

Its all very amusing 😊😊😊

You know nowt about whats actually going on, just like the rest of us.

BBC reporting EU source saying deal is imminent, and expected by end of weekend.

We'll see.

[Winchester White]

Seems Macron wants more fish if the gutter press are to be believed.

At the end of the day, they all want to be able to sell it back at their respective homes that they got a good deal for their side.

[Sweep]

10 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Seems Macron wants more fish if the gutter press are to be believed.

At the end of the day, they all want to be able to sell it back at their respective homes that they got a good deal for their side.

That's why it's a decent bartering chip for us - let's be honest, I'm sure we'd all happily let the EU trawlers come right up to our beaches and take as many fish as they want, if it means we get a proper trade deal.

A few fishing communities might suffer, but really, who gives a fuck - they contribute nothing to the GDP of the country, so fuck them. If we can keep the industry and still get a good deal, then that's nice......but if we have to sacrifice that industry to get the deal we want, then we have to do that. Although, no doubt, fisher-folk would still be bleating on about it like those fucking miners still do decades later - if an industry isn't contributing to the GDP, then we need to sack it off, not keep it because we have some romantic notion that it's proving we can stand on our own two feet

[Ani]

Looking forward to next 4 years of Brexiteers claiming we have a deal, just like they said, and it is a good deal that lets us grow. 
Remainers claiming we have a deal, just like they said , and is a shit deal and we need to grow to catch up. 
 

And you know neither side will alter on jot of their view and we will never really know. 
 

It might come down to who posts the most Twitter links. 

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

Looking forward to next 4 years of Brexiteers claiming we have a deal, just like they said, and it is a good deal that lets us grow. 
Remainers claiming we have a deal, just like they said , and is a shit deal and we need to grow to catch up. 
 

And you know neither side will alter on jot of their view and we will never really know. 
 

It might come down to who posts the most Twitter links. 

I'll thank you now for this post.

Thanks

[Sweep]

6 minutes ago, Ani said:

Looking forward to next 4 years of Brexiteers claiming we have a deal, just like they said, and it is a good deal that lets us grow. 
Remainers claiming we have a deal, just like they said , and is a shit deal and we need to grow to catch up. 
 

And you know neither side will alter on jot of their view and we will never really know. 
 

It might come down to who posts the most Twitter links. 

That's pretty much where we are, especially as hardly anybody has nailed their colours to the mast to say what they would or wouldn't be happy with. At least Mounts have stated what he wants, which is more than some are willing to do.

Like most, I think we'll end up with a deal pretty similar to what we already have, it'll probably be slightly worse for the next 5-10 years, but with the possibility that we can hopefully improve as we move forward. You would also have to hope that we don't do too much damage economically in that time.

The big thing will be to see what we decide to tie ourselves to the EU on, with regards to standards and the environment, and what we say we will or won't do with regards to state aid.

The worst situation that we can find ourselves in, and it's the one that wanker Farage says is coming, is us being half in and half out on somethings so we have to abide by their laws and we don't have any say in making them....hopefully that won't happen though

Edited December 4, 2020 by Sweep

[Spider]

Level playing field

Would someone care to explain why this is such a problem?

[Winchester White]

35 minutes ago, Sweep said:

That's pretty much where we are, especially as hardly anybody has nailed their colours to the mast to say what they would or wouldn't be happy with. At least Mounts have stated what he wants, which is more than some are willing to do.

Like most, I think we'll end up with a deal pretty similar to what we already have, it'll probably be slightly worse for the next 5-10 years, but with the possibility that we can hopefully improve as we move forward. You would also have to hope that we don't do too much damage economically in that time.

The big thing will be to see what we decide to tie ourselves to the EU on, with regards to standards and the environment, and what we say we will or won't do with regards to state aid.

The worst situation that we can find ourselves in, and it's the one that wanker Farage says is coming, is us being half in and half out on somethings so we have to abide by their laws and we don't have any say in making them....hopefully that won't happen though

Half in half out is exactly how it will pan out I reckon. No fucker happy.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Level playing field

Would someone care to explain why this is such a problem?

It's too complicated

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

It's too complicated

Aye. I've yet to hear anybody fully explain what it actually means.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye. I've yet to hear anybody fully explain what it actually means.

indeed

 

and the EU will have their own view on rules

[Mounts Kipper]

This fishing issue sums up the EU, it’s our water, the French want access, they are prepared or so it seems to pull the rug if we don’t agree, the arrogance is astounding, and yet many remainers back the French over this, stand your ground Boris, tell them to whistle. 

Edited December 4, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Mounts Kipper]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye. I've yet to hear anybody fully explain what it actually means.

It’s basically play by the EU rules and regulations and it’s the EU who decide what the rules are... GTF. 

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

This fishing issue sums up the EU, it’s our water, the French want access, they are prepared or so it seems to pull the rug if we don’t agree, we ye arrogance is astounding, and yet many remainers back the French over this, stand your ground Boris, tell to whistle. 

Do they really? - I say keep our waters, unless we can trade them for something we want....which is the Government stance as well I reckon.

If we're already going to get everything we want, then keep them - it's fairly simple really

If they pull the rug, because we won't allow access, then that's their prerogative, and we just move on, and we're entitled to do that, it's what we voted for.

 

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s basically play by the EU rules and regulations and it’s the EU who decide what the rules are... GTF. 

....but, and this isn't directed at you, but if we hold all the cards and they need us more than we need them, then they'll do exactly what we want in the end anyway, so there's no point worrying about it yet, we've still got ages before we need to get these sort of details ironed out

[Nowack]

39 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

You ever played football uphill in the 2nd half 😉

Player at Ainsworth for a while, every other week. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Nowack said:

Player at Ainsworth for a while, every other week. 

Jesus. Feel for you there.

I reckon if you cut that pitch really short, a ball would roll from one end to the other under its own weight. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s basically play by the EU rules and regulations and it’s the EU who decide what the rules are... GTF. 

Here's the thing, and why I said no one has fully explained it, if we want to send stuff to the eu, then its right we make stuff to their standards. Obviously. 

If we want to make stuff to a different standard for a different market, then fine- presumably that's what we've all been doing anyway.

As for our own standards, those of the EU seem have been fine for ages so reasonable to use them. However that's for us to decide, and hopefully improve upon as necessary. 

Seems frankly obvious, and I've yet to hear an explanation of why this isn't the case or why its something completely different.