Politics

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Don’t know. 

...or care. We all know how much the south of Spains economy relies on Brits. Nothing to see here - very little will be changing.

Edited December 1, 2020 by bolty58

[Not in Crawley]

On 29/11/2020 at 22:28, Mr Grey said:

Liked Skinner, straight as fuck, loved his Dodgy Dave comment a few years ago.

He loves to think he's more important than he is, vain and aggressive as hell. If we had a parliament full of Dennis Skinners nothing would get done.

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

He loves to think he's more important than he is, vain and aggressive as hell. If we had a parliament full of Dennis Skinners nothing would get done.

As opposed to the decisive mob we have now?

[Not in Crawley]

Got two friends, one is French and one Spanish. They can live and work in the UK with no issues as their main residency. The Spanish bloke, his fella is Argentinan and he has to do the whole visa stuff, same for a few of the Americans I know working over here. 

Interestingly both my mates from France and Spain in the last few months have taken the citizenship test, so they are now, to all intents and purposes, British.

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

As opposed to the decisive mob we have now?

Just not a fan, loves his own press and has an ego to eclipse the moon. 

[ZiggyStardust]

12 hours ago, Casino said:

Is that the same for Spaniards living here

Yes.

from the EU site:

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As an EU citizen, you have the right to move to any EU country to live, work, study, look for a job or retire.

You can stay in another EU country for up to 3 months without registering there but you may need to report your presence. The only requirement is to hold a valid national identity card or passport. If you want to stay longer than 3 months, you may need to register your residence.

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During the first 3 months of your stay in your new country, as EU national, you cannot be required to apply for a residence document confirming your right to live there - although in some countries you may have to report your presence upon arrival.

After 3 months in your new country, you may be required to register your residence with the relevant authority (often the town hall or local police station), and to be issued with a registration certificate.

You will need a valid identity card or passport and:

• Employees / Postings abroad
  • Certificate of employment or confirmation of recruitment from your employer
• Self-employed
  • Proof of your status as self-employed
• Pensioners
  • Proof of comprehensive health insurance
  • Proof you can support yourself without needing income support: resources may come from any source
• Students
  • Proof of enrolment at an approved educational establishment
  • Proof of comprehensive health insurance
  • Declaration that you have sufficient resources to support yourself without needing income support: resources may come from any source

 

[Casino]

So folk can't just come and live here?

 

[Sweep]

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

So folk can't just come and live here?

 

Who knows, I think the interesting point is the wording......as the link clearly says that you "may" need to register

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If you want to stay longer than 3 months, you may need to register your residence

I'm sure my ex-colleague had said that he'd never registered, as he didn't need to, and I've no reason to think he was telling fibs. I'd not be surprised if some countries did ask you to register (like Spain clearly do) so they had a handle on who was in their country and some didn't as they couldn't be arsed.

It might not be a lot different to the conversation we had a year or two ago about member states claiming back health service treatment from each other. I recall that plenty of of countries claimed back treatment they gave to UK citizens, but the UK had never been bothered to do the same back the other way with EU nationals.

[ZiggyStardust]

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Who knows, I think the interesting point is the wording......as the link clearly says that you "may" need to register

I'm sure my ex-colleague had said that he'd never registered, as he didn't need to, and I've no reason to think he was telling fibs. I'd not be surprised if some countries did ask you to register (like Spain clearly do) so they had a handle on who was in their country and some didn't as they couldn't be arsed.

It might not be a lot different to the conversation we had a year or two ago about member states claiming back health service treatment from each other. I recall that plenty of of countries claimed back treatment they gave to UK citizens, but the UK had never been bothered to do the same back the other way with EU nationals.

was he paying tax ?

Sorry, bad wording - was he on PAYE ?

If so, the authorites would already have the details required.

Edited December 1, 2020 by ZiggyStardust

[Sweep]

17 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

was he paying tax ?

Sorry, bad wording - was he on PAYE ?

If so, the authorites would already have the details required.

He was fully employed yes, so you're right the authorities would have his details, and he paid tax and NI etc - I'm not sure he ever had to actually apply for residency though, which is what Mounts is saying you have to do in Spain

 

I don't really know anything about it, as I wasn't that interested when he was speaking to me about it, so obviously I could be wrong/misinformed

 

[deane koontz]

Why do they call our lot "expats" rather than immigrants?

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

Why do they call our lot "expats" rather than immigrants?

Expatriates 

Immigrants is an illegal migrant 

[deane koontz]

36 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Expatriates 

Immigrants is an illegal migrant 

[ZiggyStardust]

53 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Expatriates 

Immigrants is an illegal migrant 

really ?

Immigrants are people who have entered the country (legally or illegally)

Expats are people who have left the country. (also: Emigrants)

[ZiggyStardust]

1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said:

really ?

Immigrants are people who have entered the country (legally or illegally)

Expats are people who have left the country. (also: Emigrants)

Also, expats tend not to class themselves as immigrants, rather using terms such as headhunted, or bettering their childrens future.

This is the complete opposite of econimc immigrants, who often are headhunted, or doing it to better their childrens future.

 

[Cheese]

7 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

really ?

Immigrants are people who have entered the country (legally or illegally)

Expats are people who have left the country. (also: Emigrants)

I think he was being sarcastic...

[ZiggyStardust]

Just now, Cheese said:

I think he was being sarcastic...

Probably, but its hard to tell recently whats being said in jest, and in seriousness.

I put it down to my gammon faced old age.

[Rudy]

6 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Probably, but its hard to tell recently whats being said in jest, and in seriousness.

I put it down to my gammon faced old age.

Haha sorry 

[tyldesley_white]

5 hours ago, Sweep said:

Who knows, I think the interesting point is the wording......as the link clearly says that you "may" need to register

I'm sure my ex-colleague had said that he'd never registered, as he didn't need to, and I've no reason to think he was telling fibs. I'd not be surprised if some countries did ask you to register (like Spain clearly do) so they had a handle on who was in their country and some didn't as they couldn't be arsed.

It might not be a lot different to the conversation we had a year or two ago about member states claiming back health service treatment from each other. I recall that plenty of of countries claimed back treatment they gave to UK citizens, but the UK had never been bothered to do the same back the other way with EU nationals.

When I worked in Holland and Norway I had to register in both places

[Ani]

Is nt there a difference between needing to register and needing to apply. 
 

I am registered in the UK. 

[bolty58]

20 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Also, expats tend not to class themselves as immigrants, rather using terms such as headhunted, or bettering their childrens future.

This is the complete opposite of econimc immigrants, who often are headhunted, or doing it to better their childrens future.

 

??? I do. Headhunted and bettering childrens future very true - certainly in my case. I still recall the telephone call on halloween in 1987. Thought it was some fucker winding me up most likely from the team I was playing for at the time.

Economic migrants from the usual places are exactly that - masquerading under the 'escaping persecution' banner.

Turn back the boats; save lives. They'll stop coming if they know there's no chance of getting through. Worked down here.

[Youri McAnespie]

Next time you're back, Home Bargains are knocking out 4x440ml tinnies of Fosters for £2.79.

In case you get homesick for your adopted land.

😉

[Mounts Kipper]

Rumours both negotiating teams now in the tunnel ironing out the final details. 

[Spider]

Oven ready

[Spider]

Quick scan of the relevant media outlets suggests Boris has given most of our fishing grounds away.

Captain Birdseye won’t be happy.